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Doubt about dates

Postby liviomoreno » 10 Mar 2009, 07:10

I am indexing the following "Pubblicazioni di Matrimonio"
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and I have a doubt about the document date that must be written in the index:

Is it
Dec 31, 1910 = Registration date in Arona of the request coming from Mercurago
or
Dec 27, 1910 = Original publication in Mercurago?

Edited to add the following comment:

If the document type was "Atti di Matrimonio" the date to be recorded would be Dec 27, 1910

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Re: Doubt about dates

Postby uantiti » 10 Mar 2009, 07:18

Livio,
I'm indexing the same town, same year. I have pieces of Pubblicazioni and pieces of Matrimoni. The dates are a big problem because banns have to be pubblished three times and I got into confusion too. I decided to use the date wich stands at the top. In your case it's December 31, 1910. I might be wrong but there aren't guides for that. If you solve the problem let me know, as I said for the moment I use the first date. I don't think this is very important as it's only a bann. The person interested to see it would probably be more interested on the marriage date. Don't you think so?

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Re: Doubt about dates

Postby uantiti » 10 Mar 2009, 07:21

Livio,
BTW the second date is "ventotto" and not "ventisette". So "28" not "27". :D

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Re: Doubt about dates

Postby liviomoreno » 10 Mar 2009, 07:38

Ada, I edited my original post to add the fact that in case of Marriage the correct date would be the 28 December.

Now I understand why my accuracy is so low (93%)!!!!!

And I would rate Ancestry's accuracy to 5%:
Guidelines are very poor, highlighted fields are correct only on the left page and only for Marriages with printed layout...

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Re: Doubt about dates

Postby pink67 » 10 Mar 2009, 07:49

So, my accuracy will go down becuse in those cases I prefere to digit the real marriage date....
:cry:

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Postby liviomoreno » 10 Mar 2009, 07:54

pink67 wrote:So, my accuracy will go down becuse in those cases I prefere to digit the real marriage date....
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If you refer to Marriage records you are putting the correct date, however it depends on the arbitrator. If he/she is not able to fully understand the document and sticks to the guidelines...

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Re: Doubt about dates

Postby pink67 » 10 Mar 2009, 07:55

I was referring to the Atti supplementari of marriage....

Grazie, Livio...

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Re: Doubt about dates

Postby uantiti » 10 Mar 2009, 07:57

I agree Livio. When indexing Banns I have to move continuously the image up, down, right and left to highlight all information, thus loosing a lot of time. I thought it was me not beeing expert enough. So, are we (you and me) "due imbranati" or is it Ancestry lacking in accuracy?
My accuracy rating is 90% and just think that I know the name of all big and little towns in the area without problems 8O . I think I should stick to what they suggest as possible names and forget what it looks to me.

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Re: Doubt about dates

Postby uantiti » 10 Mar 2009, 08:01

What about finding an agreement on what date to write?

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Re: Doubt about dates

Postby liviomoreno » 10 Mar 2009, 08:11

I know most f the town names, however I always double check them using google maps and www.nonsolocap.it.
I believe that the low accuracy is related to the dates.
uantiti wrote:What about finding an agreement on what date to write?

Ada

Well for marriages it is very simple we must always use the actual marriage date.
As far marriage publications are concerned maybe we should use the date of the document we are indexing, in my example above it would be Dec 31.

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Re: Doubt about dates

Postby uantiti » 10 Mar 2009, 08:23

So,
>for marriage acts there is just one date and we know this.
>For banns we should use the first date on top.
>For supplementary acts, both banns and marriages, do we use the date of registration in Arona which stands on top of the act?
I wonder what would a foreigner do assuming that he/she doesn't understand what's written on the act......

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Re: Doubt about dates

Postby liviomoreno » 10 Mar 2009, 08:47

uantiti wrote:>For supplementary acts, both banns and marriages, do we use the date of registration in Arona which stands on top of the act?


For banns we should use the registration date in Arona.
For marriages we must use the actual marriage date. People doing the search in ancestry may see two records for the same marriage (one in the groom town and the other in the bride town), but the marriage date must be the same

uantiti wrote:...
I wonder what would a foreigner do assuming that he/she doesn't understand what's written on the act......


Good point!


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