Ancestry from Alia, (Name Michel, Micheli, Miceli)

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Ancestry from Alia, (Name Michel, Micheli, Miceli)

Postby Nytewind » 16 Mar 2009, 01:21

Looking for information about

Joseph Michel (Giuseppe) {Possibly Micheli, Miceli)
Josephine "Campiere" Michel (Giuseppa Campiere)
Benjamin Micheli (or the proper form)
from the Alia region arriving in New Orleans late 1800's early 1900's

I am including attachment of my family tree for dates

I know that Virginia is related to Angelina Campiere Archote from Chalmette LA.

Thank you for your assistance.

~Angelia

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Re: Ancestry from Alia, (Name Michel, Micheli, Miceli)

Postby Nytewind » 16 Mar 2009, 01:53

To clarify,

I'm looking for the proper name to attempt to trace back into Italy. I am unable to find them on passenger lists online.

Thank you again.

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Re: Ancestry from Alia, (Name Michel, Micheli, Miceli)

Postby Cathynap » 16 Mar 2009, 02:11

I'm not saying this is correct but Miceli is pronounced Micheli in Calabrese/Italian if that helps.

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Re: Ancestry from Alia, (Name Michel, Micheli, Miceli)

Postby wldspirit » 16 Mar 2009, 03:34

There are a number of Miceli coming into New Orleans, however only one would fit the birthdate of your Giuseppe:



New Orleans Passenger Lists, 1820-1945
Name: Giuseppe Miceli
Arrival Date: 28 Oct 1889
Age: 21
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Palermo, Italy
Ship Name: Letimbro
Port of Arrival: New Orleans, Louisiana
National Archives' Series Number: M259_73

Also traveling on this same manifest is a Maria Taulli age 53.
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Re: Ancestry from Alia, (Name Michel, Micheli, Miceli)

Postby Nytewind » 16 Mar 2009, 03:41

Thank you so much..
That makes sense...
If anyone has more info / idea also would be greatly appreciated.

~Angelia

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Re: Ancestry from Alia, (Name Michel, Micheli, Miceli)

Postby PeterTimber » 16 Mar 2009, 03:49

Micelli, Miceli, micela and a host of other variants, alterations, derivations and abbreviations are all based upon the base surname MICHELI with Miceli found in the south of Italy while Michi is found in Veneto. The surnames are listed inthe Italian surname dictionary and all are based upon biblical hebrew,greek and latinversions of the name Michael. =Peter=
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Re: Ancestry from Alia, (Name Michel, Micheli, Miceli)

Postby wldspirit » 16 Mar 2009, 06:05

Providing the 1920 census so that other members can use the info for further search.


1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Joseph Michel
Home in 1920: Granite Ward 5, Madison, Illinois
Age: 51 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Josephine
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: Un
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 1042

Household Members:
Name Age
Joseph Michel 51
Josephine Michel 44
Benjamin Michel 28
Joseph Michel 21
Louise Michel 19
Rose Michel 17
Virginia Michel 15
Austine Michel 13
Margarite Michel 11
Mary Michel 6

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Re: Ancestry from Alia, (Name Michel, Micheli, Miceli)

Postby Nytewind » 16 Mar 2009, 06:08

If there is a way to link to my tree at ancestry dot com I would be glad to do so for others searching as well.

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Re: Ancestry from Alia, (Name Michel, Micheli, Miceli)

Postby liviomoreno » 16 Mar 2009, 06:30

Virginia Ann's parents were Giuseppe Miceli and Giuseppa Campiere and they married on January 24, 1895 (see http://www.lordsofdoom.com/michelmarriage4.jpg ) in New Orleans, Church of St. Philip.

The surname to track back in Italy is Miceli.

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Re: Ancestry from Alia, (Name Michel, Micheli, Miceli)

Postby wldspirit » 16 Mar 2009, 06:37

Bravo Livio!!
But I could not open the link... :(
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Re: Ancestry from Alia, (Name Michel, Micheli, Miceli)

Postby liviomoreno » 16 Mar 2009, 06:48

I'm sorry, I've corrected the link in my post. There was an extra ")".

The link is http://www.lordsofdoom.com/michelmarriage4.jpg, and I got it from this post http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/Forums/viewtopic/p=87780.html#87780.

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Re: Ancestry from Alia, (Name Michel, Micheli, Miceli)

Postby Nytewind » 16 Mar 2009, 19:01

That date makes sense with birthdates of the children.

I'm confused though as Josephs Declaration of Intent has them married in Alia Jan 3rd 1875. He was older then and maybe his memory had faded..or maybe for some reason they had to remarry?

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Re: Ancestry from Alia, (Name Michel, Micheli, Miceli)

Postby BarbV_in_VT » 18 Mar 2009, 16:25

Nytewind wrote:That date makes sense with birthdates of the children.

I'm confused though as Josephs Declaration of Intent has them married in Alia Jan 3rd 1875. He was older then and maybe his memory had faded..or maybe for some reason they had to remarry?


If he was born about 1869 (census and passenger list) it is unlikely that he married in 1875 - he would have been six years old! :wink: It was probably "95" rather than "75"

By the way, the LDS has 59 microfilms of filmed ALI records at this link

http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library ... o+civile++

But the best is a 10 year index that covers the years you need - these indexes are rare but WONDERFUL when you find them!!
Indici decennali (nati) 1866-1910 Pubblicazioni di matrimonio 1866-1910 Matrimoni 1862-1873 FHL INTL Film 1964001


Barb in Vermont USA

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VOLTURO, FUCO or MARINO from Oliveto Citra,
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ONOFRIO, GAGLIARDI or GAETANO
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ALU, MANISCALCO PAPA, VELLA or GRIGANTI from Marianopoli,
Caltanissetta Province, SI

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Re: Ancestry from Alia, (Name Michel, Micheli, Miceli)

Postby sazzlynn » 19 Mar 2009, 14:53

In the Alia records the name is spelled MICELI. In Louisiana records I have seen it spelled various ways, MICELA, MICELE, MICHAEL, MICHELE, and MICHEL.


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