Francis/Salvatore family in Ohio

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Francis/Salvatore family in Ohio

Postby KMorey » 18 Mar 2009, 00:25

I'm looking for information on Joseph Francis who lived in Ohio, and Married Angelina Salvatore there. They were my grand parents and lived mostly in Colorado.

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Re: Francis/Salvatore family in Ohio

Postby BillieDeKid » 18 Mar 2009, 01:38

Hi KMorey

Welcome to the forum. Can you let us know what type of information you're looking for? Census, marriage, ships manifests, USA records Italian records.

If you can provide as much detail as you know that will be a big help for forum members so we can assist you.

Date of birth for Joseph, same for Angelina (approximate years if possible).
Where were each born
Did they have children - if so where were they born, what year and names
What year were they married and what state or country were they married in?

Any details you can give will be helpful.

Thanks
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Re: Francis/Salvatore family in Ohio

Postby KMorey » 18 Mar 2009, 14:24

Hi and Thanks,

Joseph Francis was born 15 Mar 1890, in San Giuliano, Campobasso, Molise Region, Italy, I think. He Married Angelina Salvatore about 1914 in Ohio. I don't have any siblings for Joseph, the only census I found him on , he was alone.

Angelina was born in Brazil and arrived in the USA about 1909. I do have her parents as Frank(b . 18650)and Angela(b, 1867) Salvatore, Her siblings, were: Jennie, Victoria,Angelo, John, Tony,

I don't have any information on Joseph's parents or Frank and Angela's.

Thanks again,
Kathy

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Re: Francis/Salvatore family in Ohio

Postby vj » 20 Mar 2009, 20:07

KMorey wrote:I don't have any information on Joseph's parents or Frank and Angela's ...


Hello Kathy!
If this is your Frank & Angela Maria Salvatore’s 1930 census, then these may also be their death certificates with the names of their parents.
Hope this helps,
Valarie

from ancestry. com

(click here) possible 1930 census
15357 Yorick Ave, Cleveland
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from FamilySearch Pilot
[url=http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224/ltluvit/1992991_698.jpg]

(click here) 1934 Death Certificate[/url]

Name: Frank Salvatore
Death date: 25 Mar 1934
Death place: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Birth date: 13 May 1863
Birth place: Italy
Age at death: 70 years 10 months
Gender: Male
Marital status: Married
Race or color: Caucasian
Street address: 15357 Yorick
Occupation: Stonecutter
Residence: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Burial date: 28 Mar 1934
Burial place: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Cemetery name: Lakeview
Spouse name: Angelia M Salvatore
Father name: John Salvatore
Father birth place: Italy
Mother name: Josephine DiSante
Mother birth place: Italy
Informant Angelo Salvatore, 12548 Forest Hill
GSU film number: 1992991
Digital GS number: 4001895
Image number: 698
Reference number: fn 15443
Collection: Ohio Deaths 1908-1953
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(click here) 1948 Death Certificate

Name: Angela Maria Salvatore
Death date: 24 Mar 1948
Death place: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio, United States
Birth date: 14 May 1878
Birth place: Italy
Age at death: 69 years 10 months
In US 39 years
Gender: Female
Marital status: Widowed
Race or color: Caucasian
Street address: 13875 Yorick
Occupation: Housewife
Burial date: 27 Mar 1948
Cemetery name: Lakeview
Spouse name: Frank Salvatore
Father name: Frank De Nero
Father birth place: Italy
Mother name: Nicolina Longo
Mother birth place: Italy
GSU film number: 2246457
Digital GS number: 4109086
Image number: 03038
Reference number: 15295
Collection: Ohio Deaths 1908-1953

(Note: on Death Certificates the information may only be as accurate as the knowledge of the informant)
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The Di Niro maiden name for Angela Maria Salvatore does appear to match the 1909 manifest that you already have posted on your (owner: katmik1?) family pages on ancestry.

For everyone’s reference:
1909 manifest
page 2

Nov 1909, SS Duca di Genova , Napoli to NY
Lines 8-12

Ang Maria Di Niro 44 (abt 1865)
- last residence Campobasso, Cercepiccola
- in Cercepiccola, daughter Giovannina Salvatore
- destination Ohio Cleveland
- joining husband Gppe (?) Salvatore at Berlin Heights (Erie County??) Ohio
- born in Campobasso, S Giuliano (probably San Giuliano del Sannio)

Daughter Angelina Salvatore 14 (abt 1895)
Daughter Vittoria Salvatore 10 (abt 1899)
- has possible naturalization notation
Son Giovanni Salvatore 9 (abt 1900)
Son Nicolantonio Salvatore 7 (abt 1902)
- has possible naturalization notation


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Can you list which manifests & census records you’re missing?

Thanks!
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While waiting for Kathy :D

Best guess of missing records from the family pages on ancestry:

Frank Salvatore (b abt 1865)
- ship manifest
- 1910 family census (prob Cuyahoga County, OH)

Joseph Francis (b 15 Mar 1890)
- ship manifest
- 1900 census (?)
- 1920 census (prob Lorain or Cuyahoga County, OH)
(note: wife Angelina Salvatore appears to be listed with her family in 1920)


I'm happy to post any of the records that Kathy already has if needed for reference

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Re: Francis/Salvatore family in Ohio

Postby KMorey » 20 Mar 2009, 21:32

Valerie,

thanks so much, I am sure it's the same Joseph and Angelina. It's so good to have some new names to work with!

Kathy

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Re: Francis/Salvatore family in Ohio

Postby vj » 20 Mar 2009, 22:01

Yikes Kathy :D !

I just added the transcription for the 1909 manifest.
I can't make out Frank's name on the manifest as the person they were joining. Could his first name have been Giuseppe - or am I just not reading it correctly?

We don’t want to spoil the hunt for you, so just tell us if you want us to stop looking while you work on your new names.

Example:
1910 census

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Re: Francis/Salvatore family in Ohio

Postby KMorey » 20 Mar 2009, 22:21

Valerie,

I appreciate all your help! I was getting so frustrated. But with the information you sent, I have also, found some names of people I wasn't sure of....I have a great collection of my mom's and grandma's prayer cards and am not sure where they all fit in. Now at least, I know DiNero and Longo.

I also, have the name of Carmen Francis , who witnessed my mother's birth certificate, not sure where he fits in.

Thanks for your help,
Kathy

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Re: Francis/Salvatore family in Ohio

Postby vj » 20 Mar 2009, 22:27

KMorey wrote:I also, have the name of Carmen Francis , who witnessed my mother's birth certificate, not sure where he fits in.


OK Kathy, we'll keep looking until you say enough (or we run out of ideas :wink: )
Carmen Francis is a great lead! Where was your mother born?
Thanks! Valarie
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Usually pretty reluctant doing this without something more concrete, but was Carmen’s wife also a witness?
From the same town in Italy
Is the signature close to what you have?

1942 WWII Draft Registration Card
Carmen Francis born 13 Mar 1884 in San Julian (Giuliano) del Sannio
Wife Angela Maria
2089 E 125th Cleveland
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1918 WWI Draft Registration Card
RD 2, Amherst, Lorain County, OH
Name transcribed by ancestry as Carmine Franzge
But wife is clearly Angela Francis
Quarryman

(this is abt the same location as Joseph Francis in 1910)
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Actually, it’s the same address as Joseph Francis in 1917 :D

1917 WWI Draft Registration Card
(Kathy already had this)
Joseph Francis
RFD 2, Amherst, Lorain County, OH
born 15 Mar 1890 in San Giuliano (del Sannio) Campobasso (Molise)

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Re: Francis/Salvatore family in Ohio

Postby KMorey » 20 Mar 2009, 23:23

Valerie,

My mother was born in Amherst, Ohio, in 1919. The affidavit of birth was signed by Carmen Francis and Angela Maria Salvatore Francis , her Godparents.

thanks again, you guys are great!
Kathy

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Re: Francis/Salvatore family in Ohio

Postby vj » 20 Mar 2009, 23:33

KMorey wrote:My mother was born in Amherst, Ohio, in 1919. The affidavit of birth was signed by Carmen Francis and Angela Maria Salvatore Francis , her Godparents.

Looks like her Aunt & Uncle (in more ways than one, I think)

Kathy, I think this is going to be my all time favorite record:

Carmine’s possible manifest

1909 manifest

page 2

26 Feb 1909 SS Re D’Italia Naples to NY
Lines 14-15
Carmine Franzese 24, abt 1884
- in Italy Father-in-law Frances Salvatore
- joining father in Cleveland (can’t make out the name)
Wife Angela Maria Salvatore 18, abt 1890

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Same manifest from ancestry. com

1909 manifest

page 2

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Re: Francis/Salvatore family in Ohio

Postby Biff83 » 20 Mar 2009, 23:52

Interesting 1898 manifest lines 21-25

Located from information on Valarie's manifest find for Carmine which stated he was previously in US.

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Re: Francis/Salvatore family in Ohio

Postby vj » 20 Mar 2009, 23:57

Biff83 wrote:Interesting 1898 manifest lines 22-25

Biff


Biff :D
You found them both!
Fantastic!
Carmine's 1909 manifest indicated he'd been in Cleveland before.
(boy, you have great eyesight to figure out the year)
It's neat to see both of their names together.
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Re: Francis/Salvatore family in Ohio

Postby KMorey » 20 Mar 2009, 23:59

This is so Cool! I remember now my mother saying she thought they had changed the name from Franceze, but wasn't sure how they spelled it.

Kathy

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Re: Francis/Salvatore family in Ohio

Postby Biff83 » 21 Mar 2009, 00:04

Looks like Carmine and Giuseppe had a sister Angela (line 23) and another brother, Nicola??, the person they were joining who was married to Maria Di Niro, line 22. Their mother was Annamaria Gentile (line 21).

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Re: Francis/Salvatore family in Ohio

Postby vj » 21 Mar 2009, 00:10

Repost from above:
I can’t noodle out Carmin’s father’s name

1909 manifest

page 2

26 Feb 1909 SS Re D’Italia Naples to NY
Lines 14-15
Carmine Franzese 24, abt 1884
- last residence S Giuliano
- in S Giuliano, Father-in-law Frances Salvatore
- destination Ohio Amherst
- in Cleveland 1898-1905
- joining father Cleveland (can’t make out the name*)
- born in Campobasso, S Giuliano
Wife Angela Maria Salvatore 18, abt 1890

* blow-up of father’s name Line 14-15


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