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Napolitano and Sgambati Avella, Italy

Postby drewser » 21 Mar 2009, 21:54

I am working on my family tree, have little so far, wondering if anyone can help me...My Grandfathers name was William Napolitano, he was born January 1, 1897 in avella, italy. His fathers name was saverio napolitano, his mothers name was maria napolitano, maiden name sgambati. Severio was born 1868 maria was born 1875 they came to the US, I dont know when, I cant find much at all, I know they are buried in tenefly nj. I am trying to complete the children of saverio and maria...saverio died in 1929 and maria died in 1954...any help at all would be awsome......thank you.
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Re: Napolitano and Sgambati Avella, Italy

Postby vj » 21 Mar 2009, 22:59

drewser wrote:... Severio was born 1868 maria was born 1875 they came to the US, I dont know when ...


Hello!
Here’s a start, possible 1907 ship manifests:

(click here) Aug 1907 manifest

page 2

6 Aug 1907 SS Hamburg, Naples to NY
Lines 2-5

Maria Sgambati 31, born abt 1876
- last tesidence Avellino, Avella (Campania)
- in Avella, mother Angela Di Fabio
- destination New York, NY
- joining husband Saverio Napolitano on Mulberry Street
- in US before, NY 1899-1905
- born in Avella, Avellino (Campania)
Son Guerino Napolitano 11, born abt 1896
- in US before, NY 1899-1905
Son Vincenzo Napolitano 9, born abt 1898
- in US before, NY 1899-1905
Son Giuseppe Napolitano 11 mos, born abt 1906

special inquiry page
Line 16
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Saverio’s 2nd trip?

Feb 1907 manifest

23 Feb 1907 SS Francesca , Palermo t N
Line 25

Saverio Napolitano 38, born abt 1868
- married
- last residence Avella, Avellino
- destination NY
- in US before, NY 1898-1907
- joining cousin Giacomo Masi(?) at 91 Mulberry Street
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Re: Napolitano and Sgambati Avella, Italy

Postby drewser » 22 Mar 2009, 02:22

your giving me chills, excellent, more than I had, can you tell me how to print the passenger list to put in my book,
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Re: Napolitano and Sgambati Avella, Italy

Postby vj » 22 Mar 2009, 14:21

drewser wrote:... can you tell me how to print the passenger list to put in my book ...


Hello!

Here are both manifests on the Ellis Island site
(if you haven't been on this site before you'll need to do the free registration)

Some options:
- You can order copies from Ellis Island
- You can screen print
- You can click on the images on the forum and, depending on your computer,
you can choose to save the image to your desktop and print it from there

Ellis Island for Maria & children
Note - it’s 2 pages
(click on ‘previous’ page for 1st page)
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 4365030979

Ellis Island for Saverio
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 1893140085
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Re: Napolitano and Sgambati Avella, Italy

Postby vj » 22 Mar 2009, 15:53

drewser wrote:
... My Grandfathers name was William Napolitano, he was born January 1, 1897 in avella, italy ...


Looking for other US records for you.
Are you sure of your grandfather's birth date?
It appears that there are several William Napolitano's all born between 1894 & 1897.
Do you have his death location and date?
Thank you!
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Possible record, if the 1897 date was taken from his headstone, could it have been mistranscribed?

Social Security Death Index

Name: William Napolitano
Date of Birth: Monday January 01, 1894
Date of Death: December 1969
Est. Age at death: 75 years, 11 months

Last known residence:
City: Hackensack
County: Bergen
State: New Jersey
ZIP Code: 07601

Social Security details:
State of Issue: Pennsylvania
Number: 197-07-xxxx
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edit: to fix flow of records posted

Possible records:
Note, the information was only as accurate as the knowledge of the person giving the information
and their ability to be understood by the enumerator.
Names could have been ‘sounded out’ by the enumerator :wink: .

From ancestry. com (subscription site)

possible 1930 census

Home in April 1930:
79 Humphrey Street
Englewood, Bergen, New Jersey

Head Marina Napolitano 54, abt 1876 IT
- rents $50 month
- widow
- married age 17, abt 1893
- immig 1898, Na
- proprietor, grocery store
Daughter Lena Napolitano 19, abt 1911 NJ
- dressmaker, dress studio
Son Frank Napolitano 17, abt 1913 NJ
- peddler, fruits & vegetables
Daughter Tederina Napolitano 12, abt 1918 NJ
Son Peter Napolitano 8, abt 1922 NJ

Head Regjiew Napolitano 27, abt 1903 NY
- rents $15
- married age 24, abt 1927
- peddler, fruits & vegetables
Wife Marguerite Napolitano 19, abt 1911 NY
Son Riziew Napolitano 1 8/12, abt 1928 NJ

Lodgers:
Jenny Bianco 22
Helen Bianco 1 11/12
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possible 1920 census

Home in January 1920:
57 Humphrey Street, owns house without a mortgage
Englewood Ward 4, Bergen, New Jersey

Head Samuel Neapolitano 51, abt 1869 IT
- immig 1897, Na (naturalized citizen) 1907
- retail merchant, groceries
Wife Mary Neapolitano 43, abt 1877 IT
- immig 1897, Na
Son Rizo Neapolitano 16, abt 1904 NY
- peddler, vegetables
Son Samuel Neapolitano 14, abt 1906 NJ
- peddler, vegetables
Son Joseph Neapolitano 12, abt 1908 NJ
Daughter Jennie Neapolitano 10, abt 1910 NJ
Daughter Lena Neapolitano 8, abt 1912 NJ
Son Frank Neapolitano 6, abt 1914 NJ
Daughter Teresa Neapolitano 2 1/12, abt 1917 NJ
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possible 1918 WWI Draft Registration Card

Guerino Napolitano
(signed William Napolitano)
53 Humphrey Street, Englewood, Bergen, NJ
Born 18 Dec 1896 in Avellino
Alien (not naturalized)
Father born in Avellino
Nearest relative Samuel Napolitano at the same address
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possible 1910 census

Home in April 1910:
Humphrey Street, rents house
Englewood Ward 4, Bergen, New Jersey

Head Samuel Napoletan 40, abt 1870 IT
- married 18 years, abt 1892
- immig 1900, Pa (filed 1st papers for naturalization)
- retail peddler, vegetables, employer
- note, does not speak English, speaks Italian
Wife Mary Napoletan 34, abt 1876 IT
- 10 children born, 6 children living
- immig 1900
- note, does not speak English, speaks Italian
Son Barnes Napoletan 16, abt 1894 IT
- immig 1900
- driver, peddling wagon
Son Channing Napoletan 11, abt 1899 IT
- immig 1900
Son Redmond Napoletan 9, abt 1901 NY
Son Joseph Napoletan 6, abt 1904 NY
Daughter Jennie Napoletan 3, abt 1907 NJ
Daughter Angelina Napoletan 6/12, abt 1909 NJ
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Re: Napolitano and Sgambati Avella, Italy

Postby drewser » 22 Mar 2009, 16:47

All I can say is WOW, you and this team that work here is awsome,,..I have been searching since november, I found only williams ss death index. I have a question, since I have never met any of these relatives I noticed on ancestry some of the immigration papers have pictures, is it possible to see if any of those exist?
This is gold to me, thank you so much.
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Re: Napolitano and Sgambati Avella, Italy

Postby vj » 22 Mar 2009, 17:08

I’m so glad we could find some records for you, I’ll be happy to check and see if any of the naturalization records are on line (NJ isn’t)

If you haven’t seen this, you may also want to check out this website, ‘penny in oregon’ sounds like a cousin of yours :D

http://www.city-data.com/forum/people-s ... en-nj.html
and
http://www.city-data.com/forum/people-s ... ensus.html
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1942 WWII Draft Registration Card

William F Naples
Jewish Hospital, Broad & Olney, Philadelphia, Philadelphia, PA
47 years old (edit: fixed William's age)
Born 18 Dec 1894 in Avella, Italy
Contact person:
Mary Napolitano
79 Humphrey Street, Englewood, NJ
Employed by Jewish Hospital, Philadelphia
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edit: combined posts, added manifests

Can’t find naturalization records, but here are the possible 1st ship manifests

Mar 1899 manifest

4 Mar 1899, SS Karamania, Naples to NY
Line 7
Saverio Napolitano 30, abt 1868
- last residence Avella
- destination New York, appears to be written over: Mineola Long Island (?)
- joining brother Giuseppe in New York
- nativity Avella
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Oct 1899 manifest

9 Oct 1899 SS Archimede, Napoli to NY
Lines 1-3
Maria Sgambati 23, 1876
- last residence Avella
- destination NY
- joining husband Saverio Napolitano at 108 Miller?
Children:
Guerino 2, abt 1897
Vincenzo 3 mos, abt 1899
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Re: Napolitano and Sgambati Avella, Italy

Postby drewser » 22 Mar 2009, 19:02

hi again,
Thank you so so so much, you have made my month, lol. I am confused maybe you can help me, lol. So guerino, which is my fathers father, the reason I started this whole search,; is really guerino, and his birth day is really december 18,. which makes sense accroding to his marrage application,. it says he was baptised in avella italy on dec. 18. so, I would be wise to assume his birth is in december., ok, no on my dads Birth certificate the last name naples makes so much sense, so is william Napolitano, really guerino napolitano, and on the ww11 draft is he williams naples? http://www.flickr.com/photos/pennyeddy/ pics of birth certificate with the name naples scratched out. the city data is my posting, I cant find where my grandmother elizabeth is buried,. She was married to william, and she did some strange stuff when she left him, changed the last names of her children to Howard. You have dug up gold for me, are there any pics of naturalization? Thank you so much....
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Re: Napolitano and Sgambati Avella, Italy

Postby vj » 22 Mar 2009, 19:19

Hello!
We're so glad we could help :D

Boy those folks on the other forum are really helpful!
It's a shame you can't track down the 1930 census.

My best guess
William Napolitano/Naples is Guerino Napolitano.
His birth date really can't be confirmed without his birth record from Avella.
We can help direct you on how to send for it if you'd like.
William himself listed 3 different birth dates :wink: :
18 Dec 1896 in 1918 when he registered for the WWI Draft
18 Dec 1894 in 1942 when he registered for the WWII Draft
01 Jan 1894 when he applied for a social security number (between 1936 and 1950 in PA)

I wish we could find either a passport or naturalization paperwork for your family.
I double checked NY & eastern PA for Saverio Napolitano on footnote. com.
Best guess, he naturalized in NJ.
Here's a bit more about naturalization documents by Kimberly Powell at about.com:
http://genealogy.about.com/cs/naturaliz ... zation.htm

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drewser wrote: http://www.flickr.com/photos/pennyeddy/ pics of birth certificate with the name naples scratched out


I tried to transcribe the birth record to see if the address helps with the census hunt.

TO THE BUREAU OF VITAL STATISTICS

The undersigned requests that the following corrections or additions be made to the original certificate of birth of Richard Naples Richard Napolitano who was born on March 1st --, in Cooper Hosp (hospital) Camden NJ

And was attended by Dr Davis, Cooper Hosp (hospital) Camden NJ

Facts to be corrected
March 1st 1924

From (as given on certificate)
Richard Naples

To (correct facts)
Richard Napolitano

FACTS TO BE ADDED TO CERTIFICATE
Richard Napolitano

Witness: mother Mrs C Hockery

Signed: Bessie Napolitano
(signature of parent or attendant at birth)

Date: March 16th 1924
Address: 2714 (could be 2719) Tyler Ave Camden NJ
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Re: Napolitano and Sgambati Avella, Italy

Postby drewser » 22 Mar 2009, 20:49

Thank you, the BC confirms he used the name naples at one time, where else would elizabeth have gotten it from,. I would love a way to find out how to get the Birth Record, that would be a bonus...the naturalization looks like it might be a little tricky,...
Thank you again to all that is helping, I cant believe all the info so far.
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Re: Napolitano and Sgambati Avella, Italy

Postby vj » 22 Mar 2009, 21:11

drewser wrote:... I would love a way to find out how to get the Birth Record, that would be a bonus ...


Here’s how to write for Guerino Napolitano’s Birth Record:

The address to mail your request::

Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Comune di Avella
Piazza Municipio
83021 Avella AV
ITALY

This interactive form letter will translate your request into Italian
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... civile.asp

When you get your record you can post a link to it on the forum for translation help

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Re: Napolitano and Sgambati Avella, Italy

Postby drewser » 24 Mar 2009, 17:48

I applied for williams SS application, they sent me an employers request for change of name, its the naples name to napolitano,. birth dayte 12-18-1894,. I called ss office, they are researching this. I am wonder is there a place I can search to see if he was a us citizen, I seen pictures of applicants, not sure where to search.
thank you.
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Re: Napolitano and Sgambati Avella, Italy

Postby vj » 24 Mar 2009, 18:17

drewser wrote: ... I am wonder is there a place I can search to see if he was a us citizen, I seen pictures of applicants, not sure where to search.
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Hello!

The first clue to citizenship is on his census records (after 1900) - he may have been included under his father's naturalization

Here’s a great article on how to find naturalization paperwork by Kimberly Powell at about. com
http://genealogy.about.com/cs/naturaliz ... zation.htm

If he naturalized before 1906 and you know where he was, you can order his records from the local court

If he naturalized after 1906 you may need to go thru U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (the links are in the article)

Also here's a link to where to find records online by state:
http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/naturalization.html

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Re: Napolitano and Sgambati Avella, Italy

Postby josinger73 » 27 Aug 2010, 21:37

wow!!! i got chills reading all of this!!! my grandfather, Stefano Napolitano was born in Avella in 1900. He was 1 years old when his family came to the united states. i'm hoping that you may have my missing links!!!! your grandfather could be his cousin! According to the ellis island manifests, stefano entered there in 1901. eventually, the family settled in Detroit, MI, but my grandfather went back to italy as a teenager where he eventually settled down and married my grandmother. talk about a gold mine, at least i hope it will turn out to be!!!

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Re: Napolitano and Sgambati Avella, Italy

Postby drewser » 28 Aug 2010, 00:08

HI
Do you know of any other names? Your Great grandfathers name? I have my naps going back to 1790 from avella.
let me know
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