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Postby Marlena » 28 Mar 2009, 03:15

Can you help me find the passenger list/manifest for a Giovanni Musacchia born in 23 Mar,1877 from Cefalu, Sicily. I have found a 1930 census from San Francisco that says he came here in 1898 and was married to Katherine who came here in 1904. His online death cert. says his mother was a Buonadon, possibly Buonadonna.

I am not 100% sure he is from Cefalu but this is what my husbands family says. I have ordered his death certificate but in the mean time I'd like to find the passenger information.

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Marlene Rinella Caredio
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Re: Musacchia

Postby pink67 » 28 Mar 2009, 11:50

Hi Marlene,

it's just a little clue but I believe it should be helpful to find the arrival manifest at least for Katherine...

Don't know if you have John's military enlistment for the first World War:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Giovani Musachio
Name: Giovani Musachio
City: San Francisco
County: San Francisco
State: California
Birth Date: 23 Mar 1877
Race: White
Roll: 1543941
DraftBoard: 4

If this is "your" John Musacchia he stated his wife as nearest relative and her first name was Gaetana (possible Katherine was the Americanized version)
Address: 25 Wilder? street - San Francisco

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Hope this helps!
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Re: Musacchia

Postby PeterTimber » 28 Mar 2009, 12:21

There is a group of Musacchia who arrived in 1898 but none with the firstname of Giovanni. He may have another legal first name. Go to www.castlegarden.org and typpe inMusacchia and nothing else and the listing will show up for the 1898 arrivals in the very beginning. =Peter=
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Re: Musacchia

Postby Marlena » 28 Mar 2009, 14:57

Laura and Peter,
Thank you, that WWI reg. is him and I see his wife's names at the very bottom spelled out "Catherine". The "G" in Gaetana is crossed out? I'll research that. His last name is spelled a bit different so I'll do some searching with a few more variations.

Peter, those names on the 1898 didn't seem to make a fit even with the different spelling "Masachio" spelling he used in WWI. I will go back to Ancestry or Ellis boards and see what I can dredge up.

Thank you both for you help.
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Re: Musacchia

Postby pink67 » 28 Mar 2009, 19:09

Marlene, you're right... Gaetana was corrected in Catherine....

I don't know if you already have, but maybe form the 1910 census we should find some clues to help you better in the arrival manifest research...

From Ancestry.com:

1910 United States Federal Census
about John Masatchi
Name: John Masatchi
[John Mosatchi]
Age in 1910: 30
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1880
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Brother
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Home in 1910: San Francisco Assembly District 33, San Francisco, California
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1899
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Francisco Masatchi 29 head, born in IT, immigr. year 1895
Carmelia Masatchi 26 wife, married since 7 years, year of immigr. 1900
Congati Masatchi 4 daughter, born in NY
Marrietta Masatchi 2 daughter, born in NY
Francisco Masatchi 11/12 son, born in NY
John Masatchi 30 brother, born in IT, year of immigr. 1899
Caterine Masatchi 28 sister in law, born in IT, married since 13 years, year of immigr. 1906
Gossie Masatchi 11 niece, born in IT
Hannah Masatchi 4 niece, born in ILL
Hennaritti Masatchi 6/12 niece, born in CA
Congetti Masatchi 57 mother, widower, year of immigr. 1898

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page 2:
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Re: Musacchia

Postby Marlena » 28 Mar 2009, 20:37

Pink67,
That must be them...how did you find that spelling in your search? The family didn't think John had a brother but then the family history is sketchy. That 1910 census pretty much matches the info in the 1930 census.
I'll have to ask the family on the address but I think this is the family. Thank you so much.
Marlene

Misbris, I hae seen that manifest but I'm not sure but I'll check with the family. Thank you also.
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Re: Musacchia

Postby pink67 » 28 Mar 2009, 20:52

Marlene, you're welcome... :D
If the 1910 census is correct it seems John had not only that brother (Francesco)... have you noticed that Concetta Musacchia (their mother) stated she had 9 child among whom 7 living at the time of the census? :)

Laura

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don't you think these could be the birth dates for the youngest daughter of John and Catherine?

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Benedett Musachio
Name: Benedett Musachio
Birth Date: 19 Oct 1909
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Dendardo
Birth County: San Francisco

The correct first name in italian is Benedetta, possible she became Bernice...

and these should be the birth dates of Frank and Carmlea Musacchia's daughter Rose?

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Rose Musacchia
Name: Rose Musacchia
Birth Date: 24 Apr 1915
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Senatra
Birth County: San Francisco

and talking about how were mispelled the lastnames... :D

1920 United States Federal Census
about John Mossiai
Name: John Mossiai
[John Moraine]
Home in 1920: San Francisco Assembly District 23, San Francisco, California
Age: 43 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Cathrine
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1907
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 1067
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Mossiai 43 head, born in IT
Cathrine Mossiai 39 wife, born in IT
Annie Mossiai 13 daughter, born in Chicago, ILL
Bernice Mossiai 10 daughter, born in CA

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Re: Musacchia

Postby pink67 » 28 Mar 2009, 21:40

Marlene :D

Found out 1906 Caterina (John's wife) Arrival :!:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Caterina Dioguardi
Name: Caterina Dioguardi
Arrival Date: 3 May 1906
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1881
Age: 25
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Palermo, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Prinz Adalbert
Search Ship Database: Search the Prinz Adalbert in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 7
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_703
Page Number: 106

Place of birth: Cefalà Diana - Palermo Province - Sicily region
She was joining her husband Giovanni Musacchia in 46 Milton Avenue - Chicago - ILL, that why their first daughter Annie was born there :!:

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Re: Musacchia

Postby Marlena » 28 Mar 2009, 23:56

Pink67 !!!

Yes, that is the family! When I asked my husband if name Dioguardi was familiar his eyes lit up like a christmas tree! Here all this time my husband said his g-grandfather was an only child...even I found that one hard to swallow. That is amazing the information you have found. Thank you so, so much. Annie is my husbands grandmother and she recently died at 99 years old and her sister Bernice just died last month at 99, wow.
Thanks again, Marlene
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Re: Musacchia

Postby pink67 » 29 Mar 2009, 07:17

I'm very glad to help you Marlene... :D
Condolences for the recent loss... and wow... at such ages!

I want to show you these list of deaths in California:

from:
http://www.vitalsearch-ca.com/gen/ca/_v ... deathm.htm

1905-1929 Death Index

this is the list field description:

In order from left to right
Decedent:
Last Name:
First Name:
Middle Initial:
Spouse Initials:
Age Group:
Age:
County of Death:
Date of Death:
Month:
Day:
Year:
Year death was filed with State:
State File Number:

As you can see there are a few Musacchia... Maybe it can be helpful to detect other members of the family?

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Re: Musacchia

Postby pink67 » 29 Mar 2009, 09:20

Marlene,

do you prefere now to conduct your own research with all these new clues?
I found other records on Ancestry.com regarding the Musacchia but maybe your prefere to have the pleasure to find them by yourself? :wink:
Or, if you don't have the subscription I'll be happy to post them for you... :D

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Postby Marlena » 29 Mar 2009, 17:32

Laura, I do have a membership to ancestry.com but I guess I don't know how you are coming up finding family listed with misspellings. I do know Ellis island site has a "sound like/start with" options. What am I missing with ancestry.com?

Would you please post the other findings...

My latest attempt is finding Concetta Musacchia death info. I did use vitalsearch.com link for California and found one Concetta 65 y/o that died 11-29-12 but what does the "o" at the end mean- one index said that it meant she would be over 100 but I think my Concetta was born around 1953 or so.

Thanks as always,
Marlene
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Re: Musacchia

Postby pink67 » 30 Mar 2009, 06:53

Yo're welcome... here are some records for John's brother Frank....

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Frank Musacchia
Name: Frank Musacchia
City: Not Stated
County: Miscellaneous
State: California
Birth Date: 14 Aug 1880
Race: White
Roll: 2022331
DraftBoard: 0

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[img=http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2217/musacchiafrankwwi.th.jpg]

Have you noticed he was working for the U.S. Government in the Penitentiary of Mc. Neil Island Washnington?

here is the 1920 census:

1920 United States Federal Census
about Frank Musacchia
Name: Frank Musacchia
Home in 1920: McNeil Island, Pierce, Washington
Age: 38 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Birthplace: Italy
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Year of Immigration: 1896
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 819

[img=http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/1821/musacchiafrank1920censu.th.jpg]

and here is 1930 census for Frank living with his family in SF:

1930 United States Federal Census
about Frank Musachia
Name: Frank Musachia
Home in 1930: San Francisco, San Francisco, California
Age: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1882
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Carmela
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Musachia 48
Carmela Musachia 43
Mary Musachia 21
Julia Musachia 18
Joie Musachia 16
Rose Musachia 14

[img=http://img10.imageshack.us/img10/2439/musacchiafrank1930censu.th.jpg]

I believe these are the death dates for Frank's wife Carmela (maiden name Sinatra ):

Social Security Death Index
about Carmela Musacchia
Name: Carmela Musacchia
SSN:
Last Residence: 94066 San Bruno, San Mateo, California, United States of America
Born: 10 Feb 1884
Last Benefit: 94030 Millbrae, San Mateo, California, United States of America
Died: Jan 1979
State (Year) SSN issued: California (Before 1951)

I previous posted this record:

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Rose Musacchia
Name: Rose Musacchia
Birth Date: 24 Apr 1915
Gender: Female
Mother's Maiden Name: Senatra
Birth County: San Francisco

I believe Carmela's correct lastname is Sinatra.

California Birth Index, 1905-1995
about Joseph Mussacchia
Name: Joseph Mussacchia
Birth Date: 3 Aug 1913
Gender: Male
Mother's Maiden Name: Senatra
Birth County: San Francisco

this is Joie Musachia n the 1930 census for Frank and Carmela... :wink:

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Re: Musacchia

Postby pink67 » 30 Mar 2009, 06:59

:? This is very strange....

Here is 1920 census for frank Musacchia and family... address is 618 Bosworth Avenue, San Francisco, same of the address Frank gave on the military Enlistment for his wife Carmela.... this document need to be revised well... :!:

1920 United States Federal Census
about Frank Marsacehie
Name: Frank Marsacehie
[Frank Maresaccher]
Home in 1920: San Francisco Assembly District 24, San Francisco, California
Age: 36 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1884
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Carmel
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1912
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 103
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Marsacehie 36
Carmel Marsacehie 32
Concebbina Marsacehie 14
Mary Marsacehie 12
Jules Marsacehie 8
Joe Marsacehie 6
Rose Marsacehie 4

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