Crecco in Ripi or frosinone?

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Crecco in Ripi or frosinone?

Postby Tetsujin28 » 28 Mar 2009, 15:04

Any info to add?
Thank you for your help!
I know there are many Creccos!

MY MATERNAL GREAT GRANDPARENTS

Pietro
CRECCO
b. 1862?
d: Unknown
First Name: Pietro
Last Name: Crecco
Ethnicity: Italy, So. Italian
Last Place of Residence: Ripi
Date of Arrival: May 11, 1905
Age at Arrival: 43y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Konig Albert
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0021
Residence 289- 291 Mott st New York
No sure if the info above is correct, he returned to Italy
Railroad worker????

Wife
Vincenza
SILVESTRI
b & d: Unknown


THEIR CHILDREN
Pietro
b: 1887
d: Unknown

Giovanni
b: 1888
d: Unknown in WW I
info?????

KATERINA
b: 1889
d: Unknown

MY GRANDFATHER

Francesco GREGGO
b: July 31, 1898 in Frosinone, Italy
d: April 1981 New Jersey
Left for USA in 19??? Enlisted underage in US Army, fought in France WWI
First Name: Francesco
Last Name: Crecco
Ethnicity: Italian, South
Last Place of Residence: Buvo Monte, Italy
Date of Arrival: Apr 02, 1911
Age at Arrival: 17y LIED?? TO GET INTO ARMY Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: America (1908)
Port of Departure: Napoli
Manifest Line Number: 0024
Above immigration info may be wrong.

His wife
Victoria MY GRANDMOTHER
CARBONE
b: April 16, 1903 in Italy
m: June 15, 1924 in St Annes Hoboken
d: May 29, 2000 in New Jersey
First Name: Vittoria
Last Name: Carbone
Ethnicity: Italy So. Italian
Last Place of Residence: Rodi G., Italy
Date of Arrival: May 09, 1912
Age at Arrival: 8y Gender: F Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Madonna
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0004
verified

MARIA
b: 1900
d: Unknown in France?

THERESA
b: 1901
d: Unknown

SON OF PIETRO JR>
Augusto
b: April 23, 1909
d: February 15, 1997 New Jersey USA
First Name: Augusto
Last Name: Crecco
Ethnicity: Italian
Last Place of Residence: Ripi, Italy
Date of Arrival: Apr 19, 1924
Age at Arrival: 15y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Conte Verde
Port of Departure: Napoli
Manifest Line Number: 0021
Verified





Thank you again,
Jay

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Re: Crecco in Ripi or frosinone?

Postby liviomoreno » 28 Mar 2009, 15:18

As I pointed out on the other thread the actual name of Francesco Crecco arrived on April 2, 1911 is Francesco Crecca, coming from Ruvo del Monte.

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Re: Crecco in Ripi or frosinone?

Postby vj » 28 Mar 2009, 16:56

Hello Jay!
Just to be sure we have the correct family, are these your grandparent’s census records?
Thank you,
Valarie

Greggo (Crecco)/ Carbone Family

possible 1930 US Census image

Home in 1930:
500 Adams Street, rents $27
Hoboken, Hudson, New Jersey

Head Frank Greggo 31, abt 1899 IT
- married age 26, abt 1925
- immig 1913, Na (naturalized citizen)
- machine operator, bakery
- military: served in WWI
Wife Victoria Greggo 26, abt 1904 IT
- immig 1912, Al
Son John Greggo 4, abt 1925 NJ
Son Thomas Greggo 2, abt 1928 NJ

edit: added
more clues?
probably living at same address as Victoria's mother Francesca Catrillo (sp?) and sisters
(see Venezia household)


Francesca Catrillo 58, abt 1872 IT
- widow
- immig 1910, Al
Josephine Carbone 19, abt 1911 NY
Anna Catrillo 15, abt 1915 NJ
---

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Same address and similar names from 1930 census

possible 1920 census
page 2

Home in 1920:
500 Adams Street
Hoboken Ward 3, Hudson, New Jersey

Head Boffaile Venezia 33, abt 1887 IT
- immig 1904, Al
- porter, biscuit factory
Wife Liena Venezia 20, abt 1900 IT
- immig 1911 Al
Son Samuel Venezia 1 3/12, abt 1918 NJ
Boarder Frank Greggo 23, abt 1897 IT
- immig 1910, Na 1917
- porter, biscuit factory

Head Salvatore Caltria 49, abt 1871 IT
- immig 1909, Al
- baker, baker shop
Wife Frances Caltria 47, abt 1873 IT
- immig 1909, Al
Daughter Anne Caltria 4 6/12, abt 1915 NJ
Step-daughter Victoria Caboney 16, abt 1904 IT
- immig 1911, Al
- ?, dry goods store
Step-daughter Josephine Carboney 8, abt 1912 NY
Boarder Michal Gramdel 28, abt 1892
- immig 1908, Al
- laborer, docks
---

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Note: Lena Venezia on the 1930 & 1920 census is probably Libera Carbone, Victoria’s sister from the
1912 manifest you noted above


1912 manifest
page 2
Lines 3-4

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Re: Crecco in Ripi or frosinone?

Postby Italysearcher » 28 Mar 2009, 17:02

Italian research depends on having some good information to begin. You have posted two manifests that are obviously different families. One from Ripi, Frosinone the other from Ruvo del Monte.
To help you we need to know what you know for sure. Do you have US records showing a town of origin? Naturalization papers, a marriage certificate, US census information.
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Re: Crecco in Ripi or frosinone?

Postby Tetsujin28 » 29 Mar 2009, 00:40

Thank you so very much Valerie and Italysearcher! My mother is amazed at all the info! She just missed being on the 1930 census (haha) Info is almost 100 % correct except spellings.

This indeed is my family of Frank Greggo and Victoria Carbone and all the relatives and friends at 500 Adams street with the Sinatras nearby.

Is there any early Census info on my great grandfather Pietro Crecco from above info (it may not be the right man, we are not sure if he even came over to the USA and returned to Italy)!

I hope my mother has Ellis manifest info for her father Frank Greggo because I can not locate him on the Ellis site or his military records.
She is sending me his birth certificate.

My grandfather Frank went to Italy in the 70s so there are relatives somewhere from one of is sisters Teresa or Katerina. (unknown now) He gave his land to his nephew Augusto's mother (unknown but Crecco).

Thank you again!

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Re: Crecco in Ripi or frosinone?

Postby Tetsujin28 » 29 Mar 2009, 01:10

Actually Caltria = Chetriello

Head Salvatore Caltria 49, abt 1871 IT
- immig 1909, Al
- baker, baker shop

Wife Frances Caltria (my maternal great grandfmother)
(WIDOW of Tomas Carbone (my maternal great grandfather from Foggi Rodi Garganico / Palumbo was maiden name from same) 47, abt 1873 IT
- immig 1909, Al

Daughter Anne Caltria 4 6/12, abt 1915 NJ Mother was 43 at birth!

Step-daughter Victoria Carbone 16, abt 1904 IT
- immig 1911, Al
- ?, dry goods store

Step-daughter Josephine (Joy) Carbone 8, abt 1912 NY

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Re: Crecco in Ripi or frosinone?

Postby vj » 29 Mar 2009, 13:36

Hello Jay!
I'm so glad we could find some records for you.
No luck on a census for Pietro Crecco, but his name could be mis-spelled...
We hope your mother has her father's ship manifest (or naturalization documents) - we can't find his ship either.
Is it his birth certificate with the spelling 'CRECCO"?
And thank you for clarifying the Chetriello surname, that was a tough one to noodle out.
Once we can figure out the original town (it will be on the birth certificate), finding your records and current relatives in Italy will be much easier!
Valarie

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Re: Crecco in Ripi or frosinone?

Postby BWest57 » 16 May 2010, 15:55

I have a Vittoria Cabone in my family also. She brought my great uncle Matteo DiLella from Rodi Garganico. Her parents were Domenico Carbone and Maria Raffaela Fanelli.

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Re: Crecco in Ripi or frosinone?

Postby RichVenezia » 04 Jul 2010, 06:14

Libera Carbone (Lena Venezia) was my great-grandmother, and her sister is Vittoria Carbone! I have Libera's birth certificate, and she was born in Rodi Garganico, so her sisters would have been born there, too, I imagine. She is one of many, 10 or 11, I believe, the youngest of whom is still living in NJ.

Please contact me tetsujin - would love to chat, as we are very distant cousins!


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