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Frank Palmeiri

Postby tonij16102 » 31 Mar 2009, 17:05

I found a Frank Palmeiri on the 1900 Censuses in Manhattan, New York on Mulberry Street right below my great-grandparents Vincenzo and Concetta Messina. I have tried to find him coming thru Ellis Island and Castle Gardens as it says he had been in America since 1883 and that he was Naturalized. Can anyone help me with this? I am thinking he is probably a brother or a cousin to my great-grandmother.

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Re: Frank Palmeiri

Postby misbris » 31 Mar 2009, 20:35

The name is probably Palmieri. Have you tried that?

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Re: Frank Palmeiri

Postby tonij16102 » 31 Mar 2009, 21:45

misbris wrote:The name is probably Palmieri. Have you tried that?


Yes I have tried that name too but this is the way it is spelled on documents...

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Re: Frank Palmeiri

Postby PeterTimber » 31 Mar 2009, 22:22

The documents mispelling may have occurred long ago and became permanent over time but since most people think its an error I would think that he would be listed as Palmieri. Did you look under this "mispelling"? =Peter=
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Re: Frank Palmeiri

Postby tonij16102 » 01 Apr 2009, 15:55

PeterTimber wrote:The documents mispelling may have occurred long ago and became permanent over time but since most people think its an error I would think that he would be listed as Palmieri. Did you look under this "mispelling"? =Peter=


Thank-you Peter and you were right I misread the spelling but still can't find him. Would Ancestry carry naturalization records?
Thanks, Toni

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Re: Frank Palmeiri

Postby Essgee » 01 Apr 2009, 16:19

Could this be his paperwork?

Naturalization papers:
Name: Francesco Palmieri
Age: 43
Birth Date: 12 May 1852
Arrival Year: 1883
Issue Date: 15 Jan 1895
State: New York
Locality, Court: Southern District of New York, District and Circuit Court
Title: Alphabetical Index to Petitions for Naturalization of the U.S. District Court and Circuit Court for the Southern District of New York, 1824-1941
Description: Nicolini, Michael to Peter, William
Series: M1676


Also found this in arrival records: Is this your Concetta?

Palmieri, Concetta
Age: 28 Last residence: San Potito
Arrival date: Dec. 23, 1889 Final destination: New York
Gender: Female Occupation: None
Literacy code: Unknown Country name: Italy
Purpose for travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA Mode of travel: Steerage
Port of embarkation: Naples Manifest id number: 356
Ship name: Brittania Captain name: Parazola

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Re: Frank Palmeiri

Postby tonij16102 » 01 Apr 2009, 16:38

Essgee wrote:Could this be his paperwork?

Naturalization papers:
Name: Francesco Palmieri
Age: 43
Birth Date: 12 May 1852
Arrival Year: 1883
Issue Date: 15 Jan 1895
State: New York
Locality, Court: Southern District of New York, District and Circuit Court
Title: Alphabetical Index to Petitions for Naturalization of the U.S. District Court and Circuit Court for the Southern District of New York, 1824-1941
Description: Nicolini, Michael to Peter, William
Series: M1676


Also found this in arrival records: Is this your Concetta?

Palmieri, Concetta
Age: 28 Last residence: San Potito
Arrival date: Dec. 23, 1889 Final destination: New York
Gender: Female Occupation: None
Literacy code: Unknown Country name: Italy
Purpose for travel: Staying in USA, but not a citizen of USA Mode of travel: Steerage
Port of embarkation: Naples Manifest id number: 356
Ship name: Brittania Captain name: Parazola


Thank-you Essgee yes I am sure this is my great-grandmother....but I am not sure about Francesco it doesn't mention his last place of residence. Why is it also that I can't find out when Vincenzo Concetta's husband (my great0grandfather) anything as to when he came over? Also could you please tell me if you found this Ancestry? Thank-you so much I appreciate the help so much!!! I had no idea where I would start to find this family.
Thanks again, Toni

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Re: Frank Palmeiri

Postby Essgee » 02 Apr 2009, 21:02

The information comes from the CD Italians to America. The book form is in a lot of libraries. Looked for Vincenzo, but found nothing that looked like it probably could be him.

A lot of the pre-1900 passenger manifests do not have the specific town or origin. Only with later manifests did they become more specific, was more information given. So don't expect that if you find either Vincenzo's or Francesco's records, either will have a town on them. Having a town listed in 1880s is the exception and not the rule.

Will continue to see what I can find.

Have a great day...

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Re: Frank Palmeiri

Postby tonij16102 » 02 Apr 2009, 21:12

Thank-you for the information your very kind and I appreciate that.

Thanks again Toni


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