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Looking for De Stasio and Conti(Conte)

Postby jmorgan9 » 25 Apr 2009, 14:57

I am looking for information on Filippo De Stasio. I am not sure of where he came from but from some letters have decided the best place to start is Beneventum. He came to the US in the 1880's. I am new at this, how do I go about finding this information?

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Re: Looking for De Stasio and Conti(Conte)

Postby PeterTimber » 25 Apr 2009, 16:42

The town of origin is where most records are archived and from where all other records are obtained in Italy. The town should show up on the Ellisisland.org website or the www.castlegarden.org websites =Peter=
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Re: Looking for De Stasio and Conti(Conte)

Postby wldspirit » 25 Apr 2009, 18:45

Possibility:


New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
Name: Filippo Destasio
Arrival Date: 1 May 1905
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1864
Age: 41
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Glasgow, Scotland
Ethnicity/Race-
/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: Caledonia
Search Ship Database: View the Caledonia in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 19
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_567
Page Number: 82
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Re: Looking for De Stasio and Conti(Conte)

Postby vj » 25 Apr 2009, 20:38

Hello!
Do you have a family site on ancestry. com?
If so, other than Philip's death in St Paul, Ramsey Minnesota in 1938, you haven't linked any records.
Do you need assistance with any of your US records?
They may help to confirm Philip's birth location in Italy.
Thanks! Valarie

for reference, do these records belong to your family?

possible 1900 census

Home in 1900:
Lead Street, owns house without a mortgage
Bessemer, Gogebic, Michigan

head Philip Destress 30, born Feb 1870 IT
- married 9 yrs, abt 1891
- immig 1891, in US 9 yrs, Na
- miner iron
wife Michalena Distress 32, born Feb 1868 IT
- 4 children born, 3 children living
- immig 1896
son Alfonso Distress 3, born Mar 1897 MI
daughter Filomano Distress 1, born Jul 1898 MI
son Pascolina Distress 1/12, born Apr 1900 MI

Boarders (possible relative)
Auston Butcher 75
Ruffle Cundy (Raffaele Conte?) 28, born Mar 1872
- married 8 yrs
- immig 1896, Al
Frederick Marsh 36
Joseph Caravatti 19

edit: added note Raffaele Conte?

Next door:
head Joseph Distress 33, born Jan 1867
- immig 1891
wife Angie Distress 32
daughter Josephine Distress 1/12

Boarders
Michael Sawtello 41
Nicholas Sawtello 17
Anton Phillia 39
Joseph Kososo 33
Anglo Consonia 46
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possible 1910 census

Home in 1910:
Lead Street, owns house without a mortgage
Bessemer Ward 3, Gogebic, Michigan

head Philip Destasia 40, abt 1870
- married 17 years, abt 1893
- immig 1894? Na
wife Magalina Destasia 40, abt 1870
- 8 children born, 4 children living
- immig 1897?
- store keeper, working on own account
daughter Mamie Destasia 13, abt 1897 MI
son Pascoe Destasia 11, abt 1899 MI
daughter Rossie Destasia 5, abt 1905 MI
son Tonny Destasia 1 6/12, abt 1908 MI

Boarders (possible relatives)
Leonardi Condi 26, abt 1884
Philip Parastizso 31
James Vitale 24
Pascoe Vitale 30
Peter Vitale 36

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Re: Looking for De Stasio and Conti(Conte)

Postby jmorgan9 » 25 Apr 2009, 23:13

Yes, the 1910 Census is the correct person. I do have an ancestry account. Does anyone know if the records on ancestry include the Naples area as I was under the impression they did not.
I already have the 1938 death record from St, Paul as he moved there and was remarried. I believe he married Magdalena Conti or Conte in Italy, that was his first wife, my great grandmother. She died about 1915, I haven't been able to get a death certificate on her yet, but I haven't been able to get up there to do paper searching.
Phillips death record has no information on where he came from. I am hoping to be able to get records from Italy, but have no idea how to do that. I also am not absolutely sure where he came from. I was very excited to see the post on the book being worked on about Benevento and to see the De Stasio name included as a letter my aunt had indicated they came from Benenito- which I believe could be Benevento. I would like to know where they are from, when he came, and what the family was.
I have a picture of him as a child and there are two girls on each side of him. He also had a brother that came and lived in Bessemer--Pompeo, wife Thressa as I discovered from the census searches.

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Re: Looking for De Stasio and Conti(Conte)

Postby vj » 26 Apr 2009, 12:46

jmorgan9 wrote:I am hoping to be able to get records from Italy, but have no idea how to do that. I also am not absolutely sure where he came from


PeterTimber wrote:The town of origin is where most records are archived and from where all other records are obtained in Italy. The town should show up on the Ellisisland.org website or the www.castlegarden.org websites =Peter=


Hello!
Thank you for the update.
As Peter pointed out earlier you'll need to find a record with Filippo De Stasio's birth location, or perhaps a member of his family like his brother Pompeo, in order to research his family's records in Italy.
If you can find a ship manifest for Filippo or a family member it may help
(manifests after abt 1898 usually had last residence on them)
Since marriages usually took place in the bride's comune, finding his wife's manifest may also help. She would most likely be traveling under her maiden name.
Also, your census records indicate that Filippo was a naturalized citizen. It's possible that his birth location is on his naturalization paperwork.
The FamilySearch Pilot site has several Michigan databases. Checked Filippo's second marriage and his son Pasquale's marriage record, no birth location but they did have clues to their parents' names.
Once you find out the town where Filippo was born, you can obtain family records by writing directly to the town (comune) or in some cases the records have been microfilmed by the LDS - available to order & view at a Family History Center
Valarie
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1918 Michigan Marriage Index
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Record Number 7259
Date of License 17 Sep 1918

Groom name: Philippi Destasio
Groom age: 48 years
Groom birth year: 1870
Groom birth place: Italy
Residence: Wakefield
Occupation: Miner
Father: Alfonse Destatio
Time previously married: once

Bride name: Virginia Chiodo
Bride age: 33 years
Bride birth year: 1885
Bride birth place: Italy
Residence: Cumberland, Wis
Occupation: Housework
Father: Angelo Chiodo
Time previously married: once

Marriage date: 17 Sep 1918
Marriage place: Wakefield, Gogebic, Michigan
Marriage by: Andrew F Olson, Justice of the Peace

Witnesses:
John Fuoro, Wakefield
Biaggio Minelli, Wakefield

Film number: 2342726
Frame number:
Digital GS number: 4210018
Image number: 144
Reference number: v 2 p 187 rn 7259
Collection: Michigan Marriages 1868-1925
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Son Pasquale's marriage
1923 Marriage Record Index

Groom name: Pasqual Destasio
Groom age: 22 years
Groom birth year: 1901
Groom birth place: Ironwood, Michigan
Father of groom name: Philip Destasio
Mother of groom name: Michelma (Michelina) Centi
Occupation: Barber

Bride name: Frances Chiapuzie
Bride age: 18 years
Bride birth year: 1905
Bride birth place: Penee, Wisconsin
Father of bride name: Anton Chiapuzie
Mother of bride name: Carotine Femel

Marriage date: 27 Feb 1923
Marriage place: Bessemer, Gogebic, Michigan

Film number: 2342755
Frame number:
Digital GS number: 4210119
Image number: 49
Reference number: v 3 rn 9332
Collection: Michigan Marriages 1868-1925
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edit: added

From the 1910 census:
If 'boarder' Leonardi (Leonardo) Condi (Conte) is related to Filippo De Stasio's wife Michelina Conte, this 1902 manifest may help:

possible 1902 manifest

16 Jun 1902 SS Victoria, Naples to New York
line 17
Leonardo Conte, 17 (abt 1884-5)
- single
- last residence Montefalcone
- destination Bessemer, MI
- joining brother Raffaele

Montefalcone
several possibilities:
Comune of Montefalcone di Val Fortore, province: Benevento, region: Campania
Comune of Montefalcone Appennino, province: Fermo, region: Marche
Comune of Montefalcone Nel Sannio, province: Campobasso, region: Molise

Note: brother Raffaele may be on the possible 1900 census living with Philip Destasio & his family

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Re: Looking for De Stasio and Conti(Conte)

Postby jmorgan9 » 30 Apr 2009, 20:48

Thank you so much for you help. This had opened up new places to look.
I need to look a bit more at the information I am finding as there is stuff right there. It is difficult with all the different name spellings.

I really appreciate this website!!!

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Re: Looking for De Stasio and Conti(Conte)

Postby wldspirit » 01 May 2009, 04:37

Montefalcone
several possibilities:
Comune of Montefalcone di Val Fortore, province: Benevento, region: Campania
Comune of Montefalcone Appennino, province: Fermo, region: Marche
Comune of Montefalcone Nel Sannio, province: Campobasso, region: Molise



More than likely you can eliminate the Marche, most from that area traveled out of Le Havre.

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Re: Looking for De Stasio and Conti(Conte)

Postby jmorgan9 » 01 May 2009, 20:28

Thanks, I am leaning toward Campania, since the one record also has Benevento on it.

Can anyone tell me reasons for the person listing unknown for a parent.
In the marriage license the father is listed but mother is unkown, and I have run into that in my husband's family where the father is listed as unkown. It really makes it difficult to move backwards in the records.
Is it death? And wouldn't they still know a name for the parent??


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