Aldorisio Family Torella dei Lombardi

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Aldorisio Family Torella dei Lombardi

Postby RobertAldo » 29 Apr 2009, 21:34

I would like to find out what I can about the Aldorisio surname. My grandfather was born in Torella dei Lombardi, Italy in 1889 and came to the US in 1891. I see that there are still people with this surname in that town today. I would like to learn more about my grandfathers ancestors and other relatives and descendants that may still live there. Can anybody help?

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Re: Aldorisio Family Torella dei Lombardi

Postby vj » 29 Apr 2009, 21:39

Hello!

This may help you locate family currently living in Italy.

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Thank you, Valarie

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Re: Aldorisio Family Torella dei Lombardi

Postby PeterTimber » 29 Apr 2009, 21:47

While similar to other surnames listed in the Italian surname dictionary, there is no listing for ALDORISIO as a base name nor a variant, nor a derivative surname. It is ,however an italian surname and most likely is local in origin and associated with Alda=Alt in Gemran while aldo is of french coming thru literature and culture. =Peter=
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Re: Aldorisio Family Torella dei Lombardi

Postby RobertAldo » 29 Apr 2009, 22:23

Thanks for the replies. Peter, I guess I misspoke a little. I didn't really mean that I was interested in the origin of the name (although that is certainly of interest) I really meant that I was interested in tracing the individuals both forward and backwards from 1890.

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Re: Aldorisio Family Torella dei Lombardi

Postby vj » 30 Apr 2009, 12:59

RobertAldo wrote:... I was interested in tracing the individuals both forward and backwards from 1890


Hello!
We'd be happy to help you find your US records
Many members here have subscriptions to databases that may help
To make sure we have the right family, do any of these records belong to your grandfather?
(there were several folks with the Aldorisio surname in the US born in 1889)
There are several public and private family sites on ancestry. com with this surname, are any of the sites yours?
Thanks, Valarie
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from ancestry. com
(click here) possible 1942 WWII Draft Registration Card
page 2

Joseph Ralph Aldorisio
59 Bosson St, Revere, Suffolk, MA
52 yrs old
born 19 Aug 1889 in Torella near Naples
wife Mrs Rose Aldorisio
employer Metropolitan Life Insurance
10 Bennington St, East Boston
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possible naturalization paperwork from footnote. com

1926 Declaration

Publication Number: M1368
Publication Title: Petitions and Records of Naturalizations of the U.S. District and Circuit Courts of the District of Massachusetts, 1906-1929
Publisher: NARA
State: Massachusetts
Court: U.S. District Court
Year: 1926
Date: 30 Jun 1926
Immigrant Full Name: Generoso Ralph Aldorisio
Document Type: Declaration of Intention
Home Country: Italy
Year Immigrated: 1891
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from ancestry. com
possibly the same family in 1900

1900 census

Home in 1900:
1 Bartlett Place, rents house
Boston Ward 6, Suffolk, Massachusetts

head Vincent Aldriso 39, born Nov 1860 IT
- married 15 yrs, abt 1885
- immig 1889, in US 11 yrs, Al
- shoemaker
wife Angelena Aldriso 40, born May 1860 IT
- 6 children born, 5 children living
- immig 1892, in US 8 yrs
son Joseph Aldriso 10, born Oct 1889 IT
- immig 1892, in US 8 yrs
daughter Josephphene Aldriso 5, born Jun 1894 MA
son Louis Aldriso 4, born Apr 1896 MA
daughter Fonzenia Aldriso 2, born Mar 1898 MA
daughter Congetta Aldriso 1, born May 1899 MA

Boarders:
Pardo Greaca 40
Louis Yanaccee 37
George Marran 38
Salvatore Gendivos 28
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There are several records for the Vincenzo Aldorisio family on NEHGS indicating that his wife Angelina's maiden name was Pullo
and for the Joseph Aldorisio family indicating that his wife Amalia's maiden name was Ciliberti
(New England Historic Genealogical Society - subscription)

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Re: Aldorisio Family Torella dei Lombardi

Postby vj » 30 Apr 2009, 14:21

For conducting your family research in Italy

Your nearest Family History Center has records for Torella de' Lombardi on microfilm.
The cost is about $6 mo (rent), you’ll need to go to the center to order & view them.

Family History Library Catalog:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library ... t_fhlc.asp

film notes for Torella de' Lombardi
Topic:
Italy, Avellino, Torella de' Lombardi - Civil registration

Titles:
Registri dello stato civile, 1809-1910 Torella de' Lombardi (Avellino)
Ufficio dello stato civile

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Re: Aldorisio Family Torella dei Lombardi

Postby RobertAldo » 30 Apr 2009, 15:06

Valaria, thank you very much for the info. I do not have a site on Ancestry.com, but my cousin Paul Butare does. The 1942 draft card for Joseph Ralph Aldorisio is definitely my grandfather, I have seen it before. Rose is his second wife, I understand that my grandmother (Amalia Giliberti) died in 1932 at age 38. I do not know who Generoso Ralph Aldorisio is, but I wonder if it could be the same person or a close relative because he immigrated in 1891, which is the year I understand that my grandfather came here too.

The family in the 1900 census is interesting. I notice that the name is missing the first "o" in the spelling. The other information seems fairly consistent with what I know about my family, but not exact. But I don't know very much.

I appreciate any help you can give me. I haven't yet had the time to review what you told me about Italian records, but I will do that soon.

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Re: Aldorisio Family Torella dei Lombardi

Postby vj » 30 Apr 2009, 15:10

Robert, I'm so glad we could find some records for you :D .
I believe Joseph's original name was Generoso.
Census spellings & dates can be off a bit - it really depended upon who was giving the information, how much they knew and whether or not the enumerator understood them.
We'll see if we can find some more US records for your family.
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Joseph Aldorisio

two more Naturalization documents

1928 Petition

Publication Number: M1368
Publication Title: Petitions and Records of Naturalizations of the U.S. District and Circuit Courts of the District of Massachusetts, 1906-1929
Publisher: NARA
State: Massachusetts
Court: U.S. District Court
Year: 1928
Date: 28 Nov 1928
Immigrant Full Name: Joseph Ralph Aldorisio
Document Type: Petition for Naturalization
Home Country: Italy
Witness 1 Full Name: Josephine Valavi
Witness 2 Full Name: George Aldorisco
Year Immigrated: 1891
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1929 Oath

Publication Number: M1368
Publication Title: Petitions and Records of Naturalizations of the U.S. District and Circuit Courts of the District of Massachusetts, 1906-1929
Publisher: NARA
State: Massachusetts
Court: U.S. District Court
Year: 1929
Date: 11 Mar 1929
Immigrant Full Name: Joseph Ralph Aldorisio
Document Type: Oath of Allegiance
Home Country: Italy
Year Immigrated: 1891

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Re: Aldorisio Family Torella dei Lombardi

Postby vj » 30 Apr 2009, 15:58

Vincenzo (James) Aldorisio

1910 census
page 2

Home in 1910:
22 Easton Ave, owns house with mortgage
Revere, Suffolk, Massachusetts

head James Aldousis 48, abt 1862 IT
- married 24 yrs, abr 1886
- immig 1890, Al
- retail merchant, grocer
wife Angelina Aldousis 48, abt 1862 IT
- 9 children born, 7 children living
- immig 1890 (?)
son Joseph Aldousis 21, abt 1889 IT
- eletrician, elec. mfg co
daughter Josephine Aldousis 17 MA
- finisher, shoe factory
son Lewis Aldousis 15 MA
daughter Mary Aldousis 13 MA
daughter Annie Aldousis 11 MA
son George Aldousis 8 MA
daughter(?) Willie Aldousis 5 MA
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1920 census

Home in 1920:
22 Easton Ave
Revere Ward 3, Suffolk, Massachusetts

head James Aldorisio 57, abt 1863 IT
- immig 1890, Al
- shoemaker, shoe factory
wife Angelina Aldorisio 57, abt 1863 IT
- immig 1892
son George Aldorisio 18 MA
- tinsmith, tin factory
son William Aldorisio 14 MA
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1930 census

Home in 1930:
22 Easton Ave
Revere, Suffolk, Massachusetts

head Vincenzo Aldousio 66, abt 1864 IT
- owns house $6000
- has a radio
- married age 23
- immig 1890 Pa (filed 1st papers for naturalization)
- salesman, grocery store, working on own account
wife Angelina Aldousio 66, abt 1864 IT
- married age 23
- immig 1893
son William Aldousio 22 MA
- tailor

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Re: Aldorisio Family Torella dei Lombardi

Postby Biff83 » 30 Apr 2009, 18:41

Afternoon, Valarie!

U.S. Naturalization Records Index Card
Name: Vincenzo Aldorisio
Age: 72
Birth Date: abt 1863
Issue Date: 23 Dec 1935
State: Massachusetts
Locality, Court: District of Masssachusetts, District Court

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Re: Aldorisio Family Torella dei Lombardi

Postby RobertAldo » 30 Apr 2009, 19:02

Wow! You guys are amazing! When I posted the initial message I was hoping that someone might have one little bit of information that might help me. Instead I have been provided with an incredible wealth of information in less than 24 hours. I really appreciate it. If it is not too much to ask, keep it coming. This is really good stuff.

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Re: Aldorisio Family Torella dei Lombardi

Postby vj » 30 Apr 2009, 19:22

Hey Biff & Bob!
Too bad footnote doesn't have Vincenzo's paperwork, it would be interesting to see
Valarie
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Joseph R Aldorisio

1917 WWI Draft Registration Card

Joseph R Alarisio

18 Aug 1889
20 Eastern Ave
Winthrop City
Revere, Suffolk, MA
alien
born in Turrell Di Lombardi Avalline
shoemaker for Thomson & Crooker in Roxbury
married, wife & two children
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Boston 1921 Directory

Joseph R Aldorisio
shoe repairer 210 Friend
home at Revere
directory page
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1930 census

Home in 1930:
59 Bosson Street
Revere, Suffolk, Massachusetts

head Joseph Aldorino 45, abt 1885 IT
- owns house $2500
- married age 29, abt 1914
- immig 1890, Na (Naturalized)
- agent, insurance
wife Mildred Aldorino 34, abt 1896 IT
- married age 18
- immig 1910 Na
son Joseph Aldorino 15 MA
son Vincent Aldorino 13 MA
son Edward Aldorino 12 MA
daughter Louise Aldorino 9 MA
daughter Lena Aldorino 7 MA
son Robert Aldorino 6 MA
daughter Eleanor Aldorino 4 MA
son Harry Aldorino 2 MA
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obituary from the Lowell Sun, Thursday 30 January 1947

Pinehurst Jan 30
Joseph Aldorisio, a Sunset Avenue, Pines section, summer
resident, died earlier this week at his home in Revere.
He was the husband of Rose (Grappi) Aldorisio.
The funeral will be held from his late residence, Bosson Street,
Revere, tomorrow at 9 AM.
A solemn high mass will be celebrated at St Anthony's church at 9:30.
Mr Aldorisio was widely kinown in the Pines area, where, with his family
he had spent the summer months for the past 10 years.

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Re: Aldorisio Family Torella dei Lombardi

Postby vj » 30 Apr 2009, 21:50

Aldorisio/Pullo

This is a possibility for Joseph Aldorisio's manifest,
his name may be listed as 'Pullo' instead of Generoso
Mother Angela traveling under her maiden name
(women in Italy keep their father's surname)
They may be traveling with a relative of Angela's

1893 manifest

4 Feb 1893 SS Hindoustan Naples to NY
lines 9-11
Angela Pullo 31, abt 1861
- last residence Torella
Pullo Aldorisio 3, abt 1889
- child
Domenico Pullo 15, abt 1877
- barber

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Re: Aldorisio Family Torella dei Lombardi

Postby Biff83 » 30 Apr 2009, 22:22

Great work, Valarie

Possible relative of Angelina Pullo;

US Naturalization Index Card
Name: Angelo Maria Pullo
Birth Date: 27 Jun 1869
Birth Location: Torella, Italy
Spouse: Rachel
State: Massachusetts
Address: 54 Eastern Ave, Revere
Occupation: Shoemaker
Date of Admission: 12 Mar 1923*
Locality, Court: District of Masssachusetts, U.S. Circuit and District Courts

*Original might be on footnote.

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Re: Aldorisio Family Torella dei Lombardi

Postby vj » 30 Apr 2009, 22:28

Hey Biff :D !
I'm stuck on Vincenzo's manifest - checked the Castle Garden site too.
It must be badly transcribed.
It would be nice to know where they were headed. The town looks like it ends in 'port' on the 1893 manifest
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