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Italian residency - Ellen Young nee Puccini

Postby sindy » 01 May 2009, 11:13

How can I find out about my Ellen Young nee Puccini (father Italian, mother Irish) born in England. Ellen was born in 1868 - would she have had to apply for Italian residency or would that status have been granted automatically?

Where would I look for any surviving records that may tell me whereabouts in Italy her father Leone Puccini b. c 1834 was born?

I am assuming that Ellen would have visited her father's family.

Any ideas gratefully received.

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Re: Italian residency - Ellen Young nee Puccini

Postby PeterTimber » 01 May 2009, 12:59

In Italy most records and documents are inthe city,town or village of origin so scurry back to family oral history for any shred of evidenc e, letters, fotos anything leading up to the province so that we can minimize search area. In Italy Puccini are concentrated in NW Italy with the majority in northern Toscana region. Go to www.gens.labo.net.it/en/cognomi for location on map of Italy.

Go to www.world vital records and www.findmypast.com for name chekcs since the websites are paying sites but free for name chec ks. Try census.
Trywww.freeBMD.org.uk as well.

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Re: Italian residency - Ellen Young nee Puccini

Postby liviomoreno » 01 May 2009, 14:05

PeterTimber wrote:...
Go to www.world vital records and ...


Do you mean www.worldvitalrecords.com?

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Re: Italian residency - Ellen Young nee Puccini

Postby suanj » 01 May 2009, 14:43

sindy wrote:How can I find out about my Ellen Young nee Puccini (father Italian, mother Irish) born in England. Ellen was born in 1868 - would she have had to apply for Italian residency or would that status have been granted automatically?

Where would I look for any surviving records that may tell me whereabouts in Italy her father Leone Puccini b. c 1834 was born?

I am assuming that Ellen would have visited her father's family.

Any ideas gratefully received.


I believe that this message:
Looking for place of birth in Ireland of my gg grandmother Ellen Roche born c1838 - she emigrated to England and married Leone Puccini an Italian - they had seven children, Margaret, Ellen, Elizabeth, Catherine, Annie, Leone and Michael. Ellen Puccini (nee Roche) died in London in 1874.... http://bbs.mayo-ireland.ie/WebX?50@32.u ... 0@.ee86246
is sure a your message....
well....
I found a Catherine Puccini and Annie Puccini orphans in London in 1881

Catherina Puccini 13
Name: Catherina Puccini
Age: 13
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Relation: Orphan
Gender: Female
Where born: London, London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Prittlewell
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address: Milton Hall Nazreth House
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Rochford
Sub-registration district: Prittlewell
ED, institution, or vessel: 5

Annie Puccini 8

1881 England Census
about Annie Puccini
Name: Annie Puccini
Age: 8
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1873
Relation: Orphan
Gender: Female
Where born: London, London, Middlesex, England

Civil Parish: Prittlewell
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address: Milton Hall Nazreth House
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Rochford
Sub-registration district: Prittlewell
ED, institution, or vessel: 5

and Ellen Puccini:

1881 England Census
about Ellen Pulline
Name: Ellen Pulline (PUCCINI right, by direct reading of census is Puccini the right surname)
Age: 15
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Relation: Orphan
Gender: Female
Where born: London, London, Middlesex, England


Civil Parish: Prittlewell
County/Island: Essex
Country: England

Street address: Milton Hall Nazreth House
Education:

Employment status: View Image
Occupation: Scholar

Registration district: Rochford
Sub-registration district: Prittlewell
ED, institution, or vessel: 5

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From BMD births:

Surname Given Name District Volume Page

Puccini Catherine Holborn 1b 573
DEC 1867

Puccini Leone Holborn 1b 630
MAR 1870

Puccini Annie St. Geo. East 1c 426
MAR 1872

PUCCINI Michael St. Geo. East 1c 416
SEPT 1874 ( died in Dec 1874)

Pucini Ellen Holborn 1b 563
JUN 1866

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marriage:
Surname First name(s) District Vol Page
Puccini Leone Holborn 1b 1131
DEC 1865
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Re: Italian residency - Ellen Young nee Puccini

Postby suanj » 01 May 2009, 14:51

hoping of to find the 1871 census, maybe it are the italian place... in any case by marriage record you can obtain the certificate, and maybe descovering more abt Leone Puccini...
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Re: Italian residency - Ellen Young nee Puccini

Postby sindy » 08 Jul 2009, 20:53

Thank you for your messages, suanj and Peter Timber. Your help is much appreciated.


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