ACIERNO from Baiano, Avellino, Italy

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ACIERNO from Baiano, Avellino, Italy

Postby taxi55 » 10 May 2009, 03:22

Hello!

I would welcome any information on the Acierno surname and even better if I could get guidance on how to trace Guiseppe Acierno's family roots in Baiano. I do not have much to work since relatives are deceased, so please have patience with this newbie:. (I would also love to trace Jennie Acierno's ancestors however, I do not have her maiden name so I am not sure if this is possible.)

Guiseppe (1865 - 1948) born in Baiano
wife: Jennie (1863 - 1945) born in Baiano

They immigrated to the US in 1908 with their four children and settle first in New York City (Mulberry Street) and then in Brooklyn, NY. At the time of their immigration their children's ages were:

Amelia (1892)
Anunziata "Nancy" (1893)
Guiseppe "Joseph" (1897)
Giovanni "John" (1901)

I remember listening to John Acierno when I was just a few years old about how he continued to donate to the local church in Baiano for many years after he moved to New York. Is there a way to possibly check with local churches for "Acierno" information?

Is it even possible to think that with such little information I would be able to find out more about my Acierno relatives from Baiano?

I appreciate any guidance. Thanks so much!

For all the Mom's out there: HAPPY MOTHER's DAY!!!

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Re: ACIERNO from Baiano, Avellino, Italy

Postby vj » 10 May 2009, 13:24

Hello!
If these are your 1908 manifests, Giuseppe Acierno made at least two trips to the US.
Jennie's maiden name was Napolitano.
In Italy women keep their father's surname, so it wouldn't have been unusual for her to travel under her maiden name.
It appears that Jennie & the children were born in Avella
Since Italian records are kept at the comune (town) level it's important to know the exact town where everyone was born/married.
Marriages are usually recorded in the bride's comune.
Do you have your family's US records?
Sometimes US records contain clues that make the search in Italian records easier - especially exact birth dates :D
Valarie
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from Ellis Island (requires one-time registration)

(click here) Apr 1908 manifest, page 1
page 2

10 Apr 1908, SS Ancona, Naples to NY
line 12

Giuseppe Acierno 44, abt 1863
- married
- merchant
- non-immigrant alien
- last residence Avellino Baiano
- in Baiano, wife Giovanna Napolitano
- destination New York, NY
- in US 3 yrs, 1905-8 in NY
- joining brother Feliciano Acierno at 78 Mulberry St
- born in Avellino Baiano
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from ancestry. com

1908 manifest
page 2
detained page

17 July 1908, SS Ancona, Naples to New York
manifest lines 24-28

Giovanna Napolitano 51 (abt 1857)
- last residence Avellino Baiano
- in Baiano brother-in-law Luigi Acierno
- destination New York, NY
- joining husband Giuseppe Acierno at 64 Mulberry St
- born in Avellino, Avella
daughter Nunziata Acierno 15 (abt 1893)
daughter Amalia Acierno 12 (abt 1896)
- has possible naturalization notation
son Giuseppe Acierno 11 (abt 1897)
son Giovanni Acierno 7 (abt 1901)

detained page
line 17
Giovanna Naploitano & 4 children
reason for detention: to join husband
husband Giuseppe address 672 E 153rd St NYC
no meals eaten
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These may help you locate New York City records.
This is a great free site in case you haven't seen it.

Dr Steve Morse One Step Search Pages for New York
NY Naturalization
NYC Birth Records 1891-1902 (requires ancestry. com subscription)
NYC Groom Index 1864-1936
NYC Bride Index ????-1937
NYC Death Records 1891-1948

Ordering NYC Vital Records
New York City Archives

from NYC records by the Italian Genealogical Group
http://www.italiangen.org/

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Re: ACIERNO from Baiano, Avellino, Italy

Postby vj » 10 May 2009, 13:46

in case you haven't seen this from ancestry. com

possible 1910 census

Home in 1910:
49? Oak Street
Manhattan Ward 4, New York, New York

head Joseph Acierno 45, abt 1865 IT
- married 20 years, abt 1890
- immig 1906
- expressman, grocery store
wife Jennie Acierno 47, abt 1863 IT
- 6 children born, 4 children living
- immig 1908
daughter Nancy Acierno 17, abt 1893 IT
- immig 1908
- finisher, coat
daughter Marietta Acierno 15, abt 1895 IT
- immig 1908
son Joseph Acierno 14, abt 1896 IT
- immig 1908
son John Acierno 9, abt 1901 IT
- immig 1908

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Re: ACIERNO from Baiano, Avellino, Italy

Postby vj » 10 May 2009, 14:12

Here's some help on how you can research your family's Italian records.
Valarie
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Great site on how to research Italian records:
Italian Genealogy Online
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Italian record research in Baiano and Avella by writing to the comune:

Italian form letter generator with instructions:
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... civile.asp

Addresses:

Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Comune di Baiano
Piazza F. Napolitano
83022 Baiano AV
ITALY

http://www.nonsolocap.it/campania/20-baiano/

Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Comune di Avella
Piazza Municipio
83021 Avella AV
ITALY

http://www.nonsolocap.it/campania/90-avella/

Website for finding comune addresses:
http://www.nonsolocap.it/
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You could also review your family’s records on microfilm.

Your nearest Family History Center has records for Baiano and Avella on microfilm.
The cost is about $6 mo (rent), you’ll need to go to the center to order & view them.

Family History Library Catalog:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library ... t_fhlc.asp

film notes for Baiano

Topic: Italy, Avellino, Baiano - Civil registration
Titles: Registri dello stato civile, 1809-1899 Baiano (Avellino). Ufficio dello stato civile

film notes for Avella

Topic: Italy, Avellino, Avella - Civil registration
Titles: Registri dello stato civile, 1809-1899 Avella (Avellino). Ufficio dello stato civile
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In case you aren’t familiar with the Famly History Center & Italian records

FamilySearch Home Page
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A helpful essay written by Trish, one of our forum members:
Steps for Finding Microfilm at the Family History Center
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Italian Record Research from the FamilySearch Guides:
Italy Research Outline
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Also from FamilySearch (PDF format)
Italian Records Extraction - An Instructional Guide

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Re: ACIERNO from Baiano, Avellino, Italy

Postby taxi55 » 10 May 2009, 16:42

WOW ... Thanks for sharing your time and knowledge Valarie!!!

I have a lot to learn - there is so much out there. I visited some of the links you provided and was able to find the marriages of Joseph and Jennie's children (and the married names for the females.) Very cool.

Also utilized the NYC Death Records however, I couldn't find any that matched Joseph or Jennie's age/birth year. I was always told they died in New York, but I guess I will check NJ now - strange. From all the sources you provided, is there one in the US that is best for providing birth dates for Joseph and Jennie to make researching Italian records easier?

I'll go through the rest of the info you provided to map out a plan to further research Joseph and Jennie and visit the closest FHC as well. Hope researching becomes easier as I learn. :)

Thanks again - you've been great. Have a good one!
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Looking for family history in: Baiano, Avella, Stigliano and Craco.
Names researching: Acierno, Rienzi, Guariglia, Cantasano, Mormando, Benedetto, Seccafico, Napolitano, Belladoni, Fiordilisi.

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Re: ACIERNO from Baiano, Avellino, Italy

Postby vj » 10 May 2009, 20:47

Hello Sophia :D !

I'm so glad we could help.
We can help with your census & military records (on subscription sites), but I'm not sure where
we'll find Joseph and Jennie's death certificates if they're not in NY...

Here are two neat sites for where to find death records and naturalization records by state:
http://www.deathindexes.com/
http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/naturalization.html

and this is a wonderful site with some neat records for other states
FamilySearch pilot site

Valarie
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taxi55 wrote: From all the sources you provided, is there one in the US that is best for providing birth dates for Joseph and Jennie to make researching Italian records easier?


Sophia, I think I would write to both Baiano & Avella and request Joseph & Jennie's marriage record (act)
Besides having some wonderful information, including their parents, it will list their ages.
Valarie

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Re: ACIERNO from Baiano, Avellino, Italy

Postby taxi55 » 10 May 2009, 21:23

Thanks Valarie - writing to Baiano and Avella seems to be the way to go. Will get right on it. How long did it take you to become so knowledgable with all of this? It's pretty amazing...

Enjoy your day! :D
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Looking for family history in: Baiano, Avella, Stigliano and Craco.
Names researching: Acierno, Rienzi, Guariglia, Cantasano, Mormando, Benedetto, Seccafico, Napolitano, Belladoni, Fiordilisi.

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Re: ACIERNO from Baiano, Avellino, Italy

Postby vj » 10 May 2009, 21:58

May not help with when Joseph & Jenny were born, but nice to have
Not sure if 1920 is correct, the information was only as accurate as the knowledge of the person giving the details to the enumerator.

from ancestry. com

possible 1920 census

Home in 1920:
78-80 Mulberry Street, rents
Manhattan Assembly District 1, New York, New York

head Joseph Acierno 57, abt 1863 IT
- immig 1906 Al (alien)
- truckman, working on own account
wife Jennie Acierno 58, abt 1862 IT
- immig 1910
son John Acierno 18, abt 1902 IT
- immig 1910
son Frank Acierno 14, abt 1906 IT
- immig 1910
daughter Lucy Acierno 12, abt 1908 IT
- immig 1910
daughter Sarah Acierno 10, abt 1910 IT
- immig 1910
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possible 1930 census

Home in 1930:
114 51st Street, owns $13,800
Brooklyn, Kings, New York

head Joseph Acierno 67, abt 1863 IT
- married age 23, abt 1886
- immig 1906, Pa (filed 1st papers for naturalization)
wife Jennie Acierno 69, abt 1861 IT
- immig 1908
son John Acierno 28, abt 1902 IT
- married age 26, abt 1928
- immig 1908, Na (naturalized citizen)
- taxi driver
daughter-in-law Josephine Acierno 20, abt 1910 NY
- parents born in IT

rents $20
head Joseph Acierno 32, abt 1898 IT
- married age 20, abt 1918
- immig 1908, Na
- policeman, police dept
wife Antonette Acierno 30, abt 1900 IT
- immig 1908
daughter Jennie Acierno 9
son Vincent Acierno 8
son John Acierno 6
son Joseph Acierno 1 9/12
mother-in-law Carmela Trombetta 65, abt 1865 IT
- widow
- married age 18, abt 1883
- immig 1908

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Re: ACIERNO from Baiano, Avellino, Italy

Postby drewser » 10 May 2009, 23:49

Hi
I just read thru your post, Mulberry street caught my eye, then I seen napolitano, just for fun could there be a connection to my posts, Napolitano, Sgambati thread. I wrote to avella, and within 2 weeks I recieved my birth registrations I was asking for, they would accept any money. Just for fun tell me what you think.....

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Re: ACIERNO from Baiano, Avellino, Italy

Postby taxi55 » 11 May 2009, 00:39

Hi!

Good catch! I just started researching "Napolitano" a couple of days ago, so once I write to Avella, I will have more info to share. It does appear that there are a number of common items like you pointed out: the Napolitano name, the Mulberry address, the town in Italy, Avella; the time period where they immigrated. I can't wait to find out more.

I also want to obtain Jennie Napolitano's husband's (Joseph Acierno) Naturilization paperwork for more info, so I still have lots to gather.

I am surprised that you received the birth registrations from Avella so quickly. That's good to know. Just so I understand correctly - did you send money at the time of your request?

What a kick that would be if we find out we are related! (Although with Italians - we're all related.) :)

I'll keep in touch! Do the same if you find out additional info on Jennie Napolitano from Avella...
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Re: ACIERNO from Baiano, Avellino, Italy

Postby drewser » 11 May 2009, 02:51

hi again,
Avella didnt ask for any money, I offered and they did it all for free, the birth registrations are pretty generic says the name and date, name of parents thats it, its better then nothing. I know my napolitano had relatives come over, he was born in 1869 your napolitano could very well be a sister..hmm what I would give for a picture. I have been puting my pieces together for 7 months, thru this site I figured out my grandfather and great grandparents all used different first names, It is pretty funny once you start on this journey its like an addiction cant stop. If you come up with anything will you keep me posted?
Thanks alot
penny

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Re: ACIERNO from Baiano, Avellino, Italy

Postby trevisan2 » 11 May 2009, 04:01

Here is a great site to learn how to research Italian records. You can learn how to read the old Italian documents.

http://script.byu.edu/italian/en/guide.aspx


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Re: ACIERNO from Baiano, Avellino, Italy

Postby taxi55 » 11 May 2009, 15:34

vj wrote:


May not help with when Joseph & Jenny were born, but nice to have
Not sure if 1920 is correct, the information was only as accurate as the knowledge of the person giving the details to the enumerator.

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Hi Valarie,

It IS nice to have. And the 1920 is correct for Joe, Jennie and up to their child John. I am not sure who those other children are but could be relatives staying there? I know Joe and Jennie lived at that address because I have paperwork that confirms.

I have not had chance to review all the info you provided to me. Does someone's Naturalization paperwork provide any info into that person's past - DOB, parents, etc? If so, would I be able to start another post requesting that information if it is obtainable on-line?

Enjoy your day,
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Looking for family history in: Baiano, Avella, Stigliano and Craco.
Names researching: Acierno, Rienzi, Guariglia, Cantasano, Mormando, Benedetto, Seccafico, Napolitano, Belladoni, Fiordilisi.

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Re: ACIERNO from Baiano, Avellino, Italy

Postby taxi55 » 11 May 2009, 15:39

drewser wrote: It is pretty funny once you start on this journey its like an addiction cant stop. If you come up with anything will you keep me posted?
Thanks alot
penny


Hi Penny,

I know what you mean ...I just started and I am hooked already. I am happy to keep you posted as I continue my search. Please do the same.

Enjoy your day,
Sophia
Looking for family history in: Baiano, Avella, Stigliano and Craco.
Names researching: Acierno, Rienzi, Guariglia, Cantasano, Mormando, Benedetto, Seccafico, Napolitano, Belladoni, Fiordilisi.

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Re: ACIERNO from Baiano, Avellino, Italy

Postby vj » 11 May 2009, 16:21

taxi55 wrote:Does someone's Naturalization paperwork provide any info into that person's past - DOB, parents, etc? If so, would I be able to start another post requesting that information if it is obtainable on-line?


Hi Sophia,

Some naturalization records are online.
I've looked but can't find Joseph's.
If the paperwork is after 1906 it will include birth date & location, ship info, wife's name & children names and birth info

I did see a couple of possibilities on this site:
http://home.att.net/~wee-monster/naturalization.html
in NY under Kings County (Brooklyn) Naturalization Index 1907-1924
It's difficult to tell if these are the correct records, there were several Giuseppe Acierno's living in NY.

Valarie


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