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Di Simoni / DiSimoni / DeSimone

Postby marne » 19 May 2009, 19:00

Hi Everyone. I was looking for any information on my great grandfather Carmine Di Simoni. Could also be spelled Carmin, Carmen, De Simone, DeSimone, DiSimoni. He was born in Campagna, Italy in 1888 (I don't have the day and month) and immigrated to the United States on April 30th 1905. Other information...

brother: Giovanni
wife: Julia
children: Frank, Joseph, Mary, Michael, Ralph

I'm hoping to find his date of birth and naturalization for the purpose of obtaining Italian citizenship. Thanks in advance for all your help.

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Re: Di Simoni / DiSimoni / DeSimone

Postby vj » 19 May 2009, 20:11

Hello!
We'll all be happy to see what we can do to help.
Just for everyone's reference, is this the correct manifest?
Thanks! Valarie

1905 manifest
30 Apr 1905 SS Liguria, Napoli to NY
line 6
Carmine De Simone 17 (abt 1887-8)
- single
- last residence Campagna
- destination Lackawanna (PA?)
- passage paid by brother
- joining brother Giovanni
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Does this record look correct?

possible 1920 census

Home in 1920:
113 Marion Street, owns
Old Forge Ward 5, Lackawanna, Pennsylvania

head Charles Desomonia 33, abt 1887 IT
- immig 1904, in US 16 years, Al (alien)
- miner, coal mine
wife Julia Desomonia 35, abt 1885 IT
- immig 1904
son Louis Desomonia 10, abt 1910 PA
son Michael Desomonia 8, abt 1912 PA
son Joseph Desomonia 7, abt 1913 PA
son Frank Desomonia 5, abt 1915 PA
daughter Mary Desomonia 4, abt 1916 PA

step-son Samuel Tallerico 16, abt 1904 IT
- immig 1903
mother-in-law Rosie Pettinali 65, abt 1855 IT
- immig 1903

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Postby marne » 19 May 2009, 20:36

Hi Valarie. That's awesome. I believe it's a perfect match.

Though the manifest shows "Lackawanna" crossed with "Coyne" or "Cayne" above it, he settled in Old Forge, Pennsylvania in the county of Lackawanna. Too, there isn't a city named Coyne or Cayne in Pennsylvania.

Thanks for your assistance. I really appreciate it.

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Re: Di Simoni / DiSimoni / DeSimone

Postby vj » 19 May 2009, 20:43

I'm glad we found your family in 1920.
Here are a possible draft registration card & naturalization documents
Valarie

possible 1917 WWI Draft Registration Card
Casmine Desimone 29
129 West Oak Taylor Lackawanna PA
Declarant
born 15 June 1887 in Campa Ma (Campagna) Italy
(possibly Campagna, province of Salerno, Campania)
miner for Pennsylvania Coal Co in Old Forge
married, wife & children
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Naturalization Paperwork is on footnote

1920 Petition for Naturalization

Publication Number: M1626
Publication Title: Naturalization Petitions of the U.S. Circuit and District Courts for the
Middle District of Pennsylvania, 1906-1930
Publisher: NARA
State: Pennsylvania
Short Description: NARA M1626.
Naturalization records for the Middle District of Pennsylvania, 1906-1930,
also include US Circuit Court records for 1901-1906.
Court: District Court, 1910-1930
Year: 1920
Date: 30 Sep 1920
Immigrant Full Name: Carmino Disimeny
Document Type: Petition for Naturalization
Home Country: Italy
Witness 1 Full Name: A L Biancardi
Witness 2 Full Name: Paolo Cardile
Year Immigrated: 1905
Ship Name: Liguria
Spouse Full Name: Julia

1921 Oath

Publication Number:
M1626
Publication Title:
Naturalization Petitions of the U.S. Circuit and District Courts for the
Middle District of Pennsylvania, 1906-1930
Publisher:
NARA
State:
Pennsylvania
Short Description:
NARA M1626. Naturalization records for the Middle District of Pennsylvania, 1906-1930,
also include US Circuit Court records for 1901-1906.
Court:
District Court, 1910-1930
Year:
1921
Date:
1921-01-26
Immigrant Full Name:
Carmino Disimeny
Document Type:
Oath of Allegiance
Home Country:
Italy
Witness 1 Full Name:
[Blank]
Witness 2 Full Name:
[Blank]
Year Immigrated:
1905
Ship Name:
Liguria
Spouse Full Name:
Julia

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Re: Di Simoni / DiSimoni / DeSimone

Postby marne » 19 May 2009, 21:01

That's him. Thanks again, Valarie.

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Re: Di Simoni / DiSimoni / DeSimone

Postby vj » 19 May 2009, 21:43

I'm glad we could help!
Here's another version of his Petition for Naturalization

signed version of 1920 Petition

and

1916 Declaration

Publication Number:
M1626
Publication Title:
Naturalization Petitions of the U.S. Circuit and District Courts for the
Middle District of Pennsylvania, 1906-1930
Publisher:
NARA
State:
Pennsylvania
Short Description:
NARA M1626. Naturalization records for the Middle District of Pennsylvania, 1906-1930,
also include US Circuit Court records for 1901-1906.
Court:
District Court, 1910-1930
Year:
1916
Date:
1916-05-03
Immigrant Full Name:
Carmine Desimone
Document Type:
Declaration of Intention
Home Country:
Italy
Witness 1 Full Name:
[Blank]
Witness 2 Full Name:
[Blank]
Year Immigrated:
1905
Ship Name:
Liguria
Spouse Full Name:
Julia

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Re: Di Simoni / DiSimoni / DeSimone

Postby vj » 19 May 2009, 22:00

possible 1910 census
Carmine & Julia in 1910?

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Postby marne » 20 May 2009, 01:33

I'm amazed at what you found, and how quickly. I guess the question is, now, how to obtain official copies.

I know birth certificates are obtained at the state office of vital statistics. Would I also get/research marriage certificates there? And how about the certificate of naturalization (department of state?)?

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Re: Di Simoni / DiSimoni / DeSimone

Postby vj » 20 May 2009, 14:51

marne wrote:I'm amazed at what you found, and how quickly. I guess the question is, now, how to obtain official copies.

I know birth certificates are obtained at the state office of vital statistics. Would I also get/research marriage certificates there? And how about the certificate of naturalization (department of state?)?


Hello!
This may help, this site will give you a great start on gathering records
Expats in Italy
Valarie

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Re: Di Simoni / DiSimoni / DeSimone

Postby Biff83 » 20 May 2009, 15:18

Marne,

Not sure if you've seen this site.

[url=http://www.oldforgecoalmine.com/]Coal Mine History of Old Forge PA
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Biff--a fellow Coal Cracker from Carbondale
"To dance beneath the diamond sky with one hand waving free, silhouetted by the sea, circled by the circus sands"

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Re: Di Simoni / DiSimoni / DeSimone

Postby marne » 21 May 2009, 23:56

I wasn't aware of that site. Many thanks Biff.


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