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Postby debjumbelick » 25 May 2009, 13:23

:cry: please can someone help ? i am so frustrated. i've been doing a family tree for my mom.-(i'm doing hers and my dad's)
my mom is 78, in bad health,a widow who lives along back in lancaster, pa u.s.a.(i'm in england) my mom just found out her older sister-aunt irene has less than 2 mths to live. my mom has only her brother and 2 sisters left.
all she knows is her dad and mom's names. :
lelio(didnt say if he had a middle name) centini- feb 2 1890-dec 24 1957
antonia (again, she doesnt' know or remember if her mom had a middle name) carofa-centini- dec 25 1893-dec 16 1957
(now i know why my mom doesnt like xmas) they came over to the us from naples. my mom's 2 older sisters also came over on a boat everyone came at differing times (?) well the sisters came together.
it says they were fr4om a place called AQUASANTA-MARCHE.
theysettled in lancaster -well my aunt palma eventually moved to baltimore maryland.
i have been checking all kinds of databases and websites but there are no references to my grandparents other than the u.s. bits i've found. and no parents further back for either one. -how can this be?
i've been spending hrs and whole nights on the computer trying to find out more but keep coming up blank. i really wanted to do this for my mom(and us siblings) before its too late.
i've only ever seen 1 picture of each of my grandparents but at least that makes them real to me.i thought having this information would make mom feel less empty .
please forgive me for writing such a long letter- it wasnt' planned but i'm so tired and feeling hopeless. if my email address doesnt show, it is: xmastree@excite.com
i've recently taken 2 wks off work to try to finish this and have been trying to make headway day and night.
thank you.
respectfully
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Postby vj » 25 May 2009, 13:28

Hello Debbie!
We'll be happy to see what we can do to help.
Today is a holiday in the US, but no doubt we'll have a few members drop by.
Valarie

A couple of questions,
- could Lelio Centini's wife's name have been Antonia Carosi?
- are you positive about Lelio's birth & death dates?
there are a couple of records with birth date 18 Feb 1890, death Dec 1963
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Postby vj » 25 May 2009, 13:50

debjumbelick wrote:i have been checking all kinds of databases and websites but there are no references to my grandparents other than the u.s. bits i've found.


Debbie,
If your grandparents were from Acquasanta Terme, you can write to the comune (in Italian) for their birth/marriage records.
(Acquasanta Terme is a comune (municipality) in the Province of Ascoli Piceno in the Italian region Marche)
Valarie

Record search in Acquasanta Terme by writing to the comune:

Italian form letter generator with instructions:
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... civile.asp

Address:

Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Comune di Acquasanta Terme
Piazza XX Settembre 12
63041 Acquasanta Terme AP
ITALY
http://www.nonsolocap.it/marche/85-acquasanta-terme/

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Postby pink67 » 25 May 2009, 13:51

Hi Debbie and Val

I too believe the correct last name of your great-grandmother was Carosi:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Antonia Carosi
Name: Antonia Carosi
Arrival Date: 13 Jul 1928
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
Age: 36
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Conte Biancamano
Search Ship Database: Search the Conte Biancamano in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: Italy
Line: 16
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_4300
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: acquasanta
Page Number: 225

She was travelling with her two daughters and was leaving in Italiy (Acquasanta) her father Luigi

page 1:
[img=http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/8562/carosiantoniapage1.th.jpg]

page 2:
[img=http://img199.imageshack.us/img199/3167/carosiantoninapage2.th.jpg]

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Postby vj » 25 May 2009, 13:55

Hello Laura :D !
What a great manifest - another name (Luigi) in Aquasanta for Debbie!
Valarie

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Lelio Centini

(click here) possible 1942 WWII Draft Registration Card

Lelio Centini 52
436 North Concord
Lancaster, Lancaster, PA
born 18 Feb 1890 in Italy
at same address Antonia Centini
employer Armstrong Cork Company, Liberty Street, Lancaster

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Postby pink67 » 25 May 2009, 14:05

debjumbelick wrote:they came over to the us from naples. my mom's 2 older sisters also came over on a boat everyone came at differing times (?) well the sisters came together.
it says they were fr4om a place called AQUASANTA-MARCHE.


So, possibly they were Antonia's daughters listed travelling with their mother on her same 1928 arrival manifest:

Centini Delia Palma (age 8 )
Centini Irena Aeirana? (age 2)

Laura

edit to add details:

Debbie,

Lelio at his arrival in the U.S. (1922) declared he was joining his brother Pasquale Centini:

Pasquale arrived in the U.S. on 1903, from Ellisisland.org here is the arrival manifest:

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0030

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Postby vj » 25 May 2009, 14:09

Centini Family

possible 1930 census

315 West James Street, rents $30
Lancaster, Lancaster, PA
Leo Centini 41, abt 1889 IT
- married age 24, abt 1913
- laborer, linoleum plant
wife Antonia 37, abt 1893 IT
- married age 20
daughter Palma 9, abt 1921 IT
daughter Irene(?) 4 yrs 2 mos, abt 1926 IT
son Luis 4 mos, abt 1929 PA
son Joseph 4 mos, abt 1929 PA

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Postby pink67 » 25 May 2009, 14:16

Pasquale Centini (Lelio's brother) 1930 census in Lancaster PA:

1930 United States Federal Census
about Pasquella Centini
Name: Pasquella Centini
Home in 1930: Lancaster, Lancaster, Pennsylvania
Age: 42
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head-of-house: Head
Spouse's name: Susan A
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Pasquella Centini 42
Susan A Centini 48
Elizabeth V Centini 19
George F Centini 16
Joseph R Centini 15
Frederick C Centini 12
Earl P Centini 7

[img=http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/9766/centinipasquale1930.th.jpg]

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edit to add:

Another Lelio's brother :!:

Gaetano Centini arriving on 1921 joining his brother Pasquale Centini in Lancaster PA:

page 1:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0025
page 2:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0025

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Postby vj » 25 May 2009, 14:31

Wow Laura!
Debbie's family is getting bigger :D
Valarie
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brothers Pasquale & Gaetano Centini
Draft Registration Cards

1942 WWII Draft Registration Card Pasquale
born 10 Apr 1887

1917 WWI Draft Registration Card Pasquale

1942 Card Gaetano
born 4 Dec 1896
living in Harrisburg, Dauphin County, PA
wife Angelina
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Pasquale Centini and fmily

1920 census

Home in 1920:
38 N Water Street
Lancaster Ward 1, Lancaster, Pennsylvania

head Pasquelli Centini 32
wife Susan A Centini 38

step daughter Mary T Riner 18
step daughter Lillian R Riner 14

daughter Violet E Centini 8
son George Franklin Centini 6
son Raymond Centini 4 10/12
son Frederick F G Centini 1 10/12


Pasquale & future wife?

1910 census

Home in 1910:
427 Rockland Street
Lancaster Ward 7, Lancaster, Pennsylvania

head Susan A Hoover 28
- divorced
- married 2 years
- 2 children
daughter Mary T Hoover 9
boarder Palsy Centine 22

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Postby vj » 25 May 2009, 15:57

Lelio Centini
2nd trip?

1926 manifest
page 2

27 Mar 1926, SS Conte Biancamano, Genoa to NY
line 12
Lelio Centini 36
- married
- last residence Lancaster, PA
- in Aquasanta wife Antonia Carosi
- destination Lancaster, PA
- in PA 1922 to 10 Apr 1925
- joining brother Pasquale in Lancaster, brother Gaetano in Latrobe crossed out
- born in Aquasanta Tr.

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Postby vj » 25 May 2009, 16:17

Pasquale Centini & Susan Hoover Centini's son
from genealogy. bank

Intelligencer Journal (Lancaster, PA) - September 10, 1998
Deceased Name: GEORGE FRANKLIN CENTINI SR., LANCASTER

George Franklin Centini Sr., 85, of 316 S. Mill St., died Tuesday at Lancaster General Hospital of natural causes.

A lifelong Lancaster resident, Centini was a builder in the display department of Armstrong World Industries for 40 years, retiring in 1975.

He was involved with the Civilian Conservation Corps during the 1930s.

Centini was a member of St. Mary Catholic Church and the 7th Ward Club, and a life member of the Loyal Order of the Moose Lodge 299.

An amateur flyweight boxer, he enjoyed fishing and hunting.

Born in Lancaster, he was the son of the late Pasquale and Susan Ann Hoover Centini.

He was the husband of Mary A. Johns Centini, who died in 1996.

Surviving are a son, George F. Jr. of Pequea; a sister, Edith Witmer of Manheim; and a brother, Joseph Raymond of Millersville.

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All content (c) 1998 Lancaster Newspapers Inc. and may not be republished without permission.

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Gaetano Centini's wife Angelina
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Patriot-News, The (Harrisburg, PA) - July 9, 1996
Deceased Name: Angelina S. Centini
Angelina S. Lanzino Centini, 87, of 1519 S. 12th St. died Saturday in Polyclinic Hospital.

She was retired from the state Department of Transportation and a member of the Cathedral Parish of St. Patrick Catholic Church.

She was the widow of Guy Centini.
Surviving are a son, Guy of Dillsburg; a brother, Ottavian Lanzino of Harrisburg; three grandchildren; and four great-grandchildren.

A Mass of Christian Burial will be celebrated at 10 a.m. Thursday in her church. Burial will be in Resurrection Cemetery, West Hanover Twp.

Viewing will be from 8: 30 to 9: 30 a.m. Thursday in Wiedeman Funeral Home, Steelton.

Edition: FINAL
Page: B2
Copyright, 1996, The Patriot-News Co. All Rights Reserved. Used with permission.

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Postby debjumbelick » 25 May 2009, 16:17

OH MY GOSH IM SO EXCITED! finally tears of happiness! yeah i still celebrate all of our holidays back home(with food here!). so, my mom had her mom;s maiden name wrong-perhaps remembered wrongly or she just spelled it wrong.
i cant write for anything because i dont know italian.-my mom said her parents spoke no english or very little and until she went to school she could speak english-but proudly added thru the yrs how she learned the dirtry words(and would recite some to us but had no idea anymore what they were-she does remember how to say "you're crazy" -sounds like tu se pots)
brothers-wow- i saw censu records and there are 3 differing spellings for his brother.my mom thought it was pasqualla,but i also saw pasquelli and pasquale. im so excited to see yet another brother too-so i know now that pop pop had 2 siblings at leaset. and i know my nanny's name.
but why arent there any more of them? i mean why cant i find out pop pop;s dads and dads and dads names etc? same with nannys.
thank you from the bottom of my heart all of you dear sweet people,this means so much to me,i just cant express how much. -i wish i hadnty waited till im 47 to do this. theres no one to ask ,no pictures to possibly look at(mom moved and no longer can find the 2 pic i remember.-the one of her dad -he was standing in the street with rolled up sleeves on a white button down shirt holding a shovel. i thought she said he put railroad things in on water street or something.hmm. OH MY MOM TOLD ME YRS AGO THAT SHE GREW UP ON CONCORD STREET!. i am very grateful to you all.,love3, deb (
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Postby debjumbelick » 25 May 2009, 16:23

neat-o i just saw the newspaper article from my hometown! oh and there was a husband and wife centini who used to volunteer at conestoga view nursing home. i met them when i started out as a nurse aide in the late 1980's. the wife was honored for a huge amount of yrs there.i wonder if the one lady (married to john?) is her. i still remember what this lovely couple looked like. i remember telling mom about them yrs ago and she said they were related she felt but i no longer remember what she said.
thank you for the article! love,deb e.
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Postby vj » 25 May 2009, 16:27

debjumbelick wrote:neat-o i just saw the newspaper article from my hometown! oh and there was a husband and wife centini who used to volunteer at conestoga view nursing home. i met them when i started out as a nurse aide in the late 1980's. the wife was honored for a huge amount of yrs there.i wonder if the one lady (married to john?) is her. i still remember what this lovely couple looked like. i remember telling mom about them yrs ago and she said they were related she felt but i no longer remember what she said.
thank you for the article! love,deb e.


Deb, this may be the person you're thinking of
Valarie

Sunday News (Lancaster, PA) - February 4, 2007
Deceased Name: Jane Centini: Salute to one very extraordinary woman
Jane Centini died two weeks ago. She was a member of the Council of Volunteer Coordinators.

It is unusual for me to honor individuals in this column, preferring the priority to be presenting vital information to prospective volunteers. But Jane's is a different and important story.

She was a volunteer and a leader of volunteers. She touched countless lives. And she was one of the most giving, selfless people I ever met.

Jane was exceptional - one of the most-honored volunteers in Lancaster County, but also the most quiet about it. Much of her recognition came from being a volunteer leader at Conestoga View, where she was recognized by the American Red Cross for 44 years of service. She won the CVC's Leadership Award, given to the most outstanding leader of volunteers; received a county Points of Light award; honorable mention for the Jefferson Awards; Sertoma's Service to Mankind Award; New Era Red Rose; and an award of appreciation from the Junior League of Lancaster, among others.

Jane taught Sunday School for more than 30 years at the Lutheran Church of the Good Shepherd. She also volunteered for the Millersville Senior Center. Her volunteer activities are too numerous to list. And when recognized, she always turned attention away from herself. She was truly a humble person.

I had a chance to talk with her and learn from her every month for the last 10 years at CVC meetings. She was always the first one there, and usually had an example for me of something worthwhile someone else had done. It was never about herself. She was a real role model, and this past year, at almost 90, still had more energy than any of the younger people in the organization. I never knew her age, but I thought she was much younger, because of her attitude and her energy.

Fran Braun, past president of CVC, wrote about Jane in her volunteer newsletter at Lancaster Regional Medical Center. She said Jane believed in the worth of every person her facility supported, and she knew her volunteer time and energy made a difference. She did what needed to be done, but reached out far beyond what was expected of her. She said Jane deserves our everlasting thanks and that we should stop and think about the worth of every volunteer - that she exemplified the good in all of them. And that Jane was quite a lady.

Fran said it well. Lancaster County lost one of its most precious assets. I speak for Jennifer Stolte and the leadership group, and for Peggy Breneman, Susan Ballou and all of Jane's peers at the Council of Volunteer Coordinators when I say we will really miss her, and that we are humbled by her extraordinary example.

Rock Ford Plantation, 881 Rockford Road, Lancaster, the 18th-century historic home of Revolutionary War Gen. Edward Hand, will hold volunteer training and information sessions for tour guides and other volunteer roles at 10 a.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, and at 3 p.m. Sunday, Feb. 18, at the plantation. Attendees will tour the house and learn about available opportunities including the following volunteer positions: tour guides (in 18th century costumes), gardeners, administrative/clerical aides and event volunteers (such as those who will work with the annual Lobster Legacy fundraising dinner and auction the first Saturday of June). For more information, call Sam Slaymaker at 392-7223.

Lancaster Area Habitat for Humanity, 443 Fairview Ave., needs skilled volunteers from 8 a.m. to 4 p.m. Wednesdays, Thursdays or Fridays. Skills needed: carpentry, drywall-hanging, electrical, framing, aluminum-siding, painting and concrete. Team leaders are needed, with the skills listed, in addition to leadership ability. Volunteers build quality homes in partnership with low-income families in need; reduce costs of subcontracted services; build community and reduce neighborhood blight.

Habitat Re-Store volunteers are also needed from 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. Mondays and Tuesdays; 9 a.m. to 7 p.m. Wednesdays through Fridays; and 9 a.m. to 4 p.m. Saturdays. Volunteers stock shelves, pick up donated items, handle phones and a cash register, do inventory and clean. Call Taylor Evans at 392-8836, ext. 203.

Operation Kisses for Kaeden is a group of child volunteers who raise awareness and funds for children, as well as adults, who have heart defects, and for those in need. The group will hold an event at 10 a.m. Saturday, Feb. 10, at Wal-Mart, 2030 Fruitville Pike. Volunteers are needed to help sell hot dogs and hamburgers, candy, pins and bracelets for the benefit of the American Heart Association. Call Kennedy Jet Kulish, 871-9779.

Nonprofit organizations in Lancaster County are encouraged to publish volunteer needs in this column. For a copy of submittal guidelines, or for questions about volunteering in Lancaster County, call the United Way Volunteer Center at 299-3743; fax 394-6118; or e-mail quinn@uwlanc.org.

Office hours are 8:30 a.m. to 5 p.m. weekdays.

Kate Quinn is director of the Volunteer Center of the United Way of Lancaster County.
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Re: lelio or antonia carofa centini

Postby debjumbelick » 25 May 2009, 16:34

sorry to write again,but i just remembered -pasquale-one day yrs ago my mom had me drive her down around the 7thv ward-stating how nice it used to be
and i thought she pointed to a corner near where she said she said her uncle-pasqualla -as she pronounced it- lived on the corner-and pointed to a house near by on another corner that my mom said he owned
supposedly, a bar called patsys or something? -again, my mom (norma jumbelick) might have had fuzzy memories. butv at least she remembered enoughbits thaqt rockalnd st,concord st etc ring a bell vto me as i read these wonderful posts-giving me validfation that these are all my relatives.
thanks again.
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