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Postby wargofive » 01 Jun 2009, 00:24

I am looking for two names, one is Sigismondo and the other is Nico, I believe both came from the region of Bari. Would love information
Doing this for a cousin
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Postby wldspirit » 01 Jun 2009, 02:14

Do you have first names? Did they immigrate? To what location?

I pulled 24 results on the 1930 census with correct spelling alone....
125 results for immigration records.
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Postby wargofive » 01 Jun 2009, 10:51

Thank you for the reply, I don't have first names, but I am going to forward this to my cousin, so he can provide. I really appreciate the information.
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Postby enzonico » 01 Jun 2009, 13:43

I am wondering if anyone can help...Looking for information on my grandparents.

One side came from Cervicatti, Calabria outside of Cosenza. My grandfather Oresto Nico, dont know when he first came over, and my grandmother, Letezia Damiano, who came over around 1920.

The other set of grandparents came from Giovinazzo, Bari....grandfather's name is Paolo Sigismondo, arrived in US on The USS Cretic in 1908...

Any information (lineage, siblings etc) would be wonderfully apprciated.. Thanks.

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Postby vj » 01 Jun 2009, 20:03

Hello!
We would all be happy to help!
Do you have any of your family's US records?
(census, military registration, ship manifest, etc)
Where did your family live in the US?
Thanks!
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enzonico wrote:... The other set of grandparents came from Giovinazzo, Bari....
grandfather's name is Paolo Sigismondo, arrived in US on The USS Cretic in 1908 ...


Paolo Sigismondo

Found a 1906 manifest
Is this the correct one?
Was in US 1903-5

1906 manifest

4 May 1906 SS Cretic
Paolo Sigismondo 23, (abt 1882)
- single
- stone mason
- last residence Giovinazzo
- destination NY
- in US before 1903-1905
- joining brother Michele at 167 Bayard Street

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Postby vj » 01 Jun 2009, 22:03

Oresto Nico

enzonico wrote:... One side came from Cervicatti, Calabria outside of Cosenza.
My grandfather Oresto Nico, dont know when he first came over,
and my grandmother, Letezia Damiano, who came over around 1920 ...


Was this Oresto's 2nd marriage?

Surname/ Given Name/ Marriage Date/ County/ Certificate Number
Nico Oreste 11 Dec 1920 Kings 17510
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These may help you locate New York City records:

Dr Steve Morse One Step Search Pages for New York
NY Naturalization
NYC Birth Records 1891-1902 (requires ancestry. com subscription)
NYC Groom Index 1864-1936
NYC Bride Index ????-1937
NYC Death Records 1891-1948

Ordering NYC Vital Records
New York City Archives

from NYC records by the Italian Genealogical Group
http://www.italiangen.org/

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Postby vj » 01 Jun 2009, 22:33

Oresto Nico

Possible naturalization documents from footnote. com:

1906 Declaration

Publication Number: M1879
Publication Title: Petitions for Naturalization of the US District Court for the Eastern District of New York, 1865-1937
Content Source: NARA
Partner: NARA
State: New York
Court: Eastern District
Catalog Keywords: Petitions Naturalization Immigration Citizenship
Footnote Publication Year: 2008
Birth Country: Italy
Document Date Year: 1906
Surname: Nico
Given Name: Oresto
Document Type: Declaration of Intention

1913 Petition

Publication Number: M1879
Publication Title: Petitions for Naturalization of the US District Court for the Eastern District of New York, 1865-1937
Content Source: NARA
Partner: NARA
State: New York
Court: Eastern District
Catalog Keywords: Petitions Naturalization Immigration Citizenship
Footnote Publication Year: 2008
Birth Country: Italy
Document Date Year: 1913
Surname: Nico
Given Name: Oresto
Document Type: Petition for Naturalization

Notes:
signed Oreste Nico
address: 75 Main Street, Brooklyn
born 14 Aug 1877 in Cervicato
emigrated 15 Mar 1903 from Havre to NY
wife Angela
three children:
Teresa 13 Oct 1902 in Italy
Modesto 14 Dec 1909 in Brooklyn
Carmela 21 Dec 1912 in Brooklyn

1913 Oath

Publication Number: M1879
Publication Title: Petitions for Naturalization of the US District Court for the Eastern District of New York, 1865-1937
Content Source: NARA
Partner: NARA
State: New York
Court: Eastern District
Catalog Keywords: Petitions Naturalization Immigration Citizenship
Footnote Publication Year: 2008
Birth Country: Italy
Document Date Year: 1913
Surname: Nico
Given Name: Oresto
Document Type: Oath of Allegiance
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possible 1910 census

Home in 1910:
15 Garrison Street, rents
Brooklyn Ward 2, Kings, New York

head Oreste Nicco 33, abt 1877 IT
- married once 9 yrs, abt 1901
- immig 1904, Pa (filed 1st papers)
wife Angelina Nicco 27, abt 1883 IT
- married twice
- immig 1906
- 5 children born, 2 children living
daughter Tessie Nicco 6, abt 1904 IT
- immig 1909
son Aramara Nicco 2/12, abt 1909 NY
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Different birth date...

possible 1918 WWI Draft Registration Card

Oreste Nico 41
102 Front
Brooklyn, Kings, NY
20 May 1877
naturalized
nearest relative: Raphael Nico 149 Prospect Brooklyn
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possible 1930 census

Home in 1930:
80 Prospect Street, rents $30
Brooklyn, Kings, New York

head Oresto Nico 54, abt 1876 IT
- immig? Na
wife Lizzie Nico 46, abt 1884 IT
- immig 1920
daughter Rosa Nico 8, abt 1922 NY
daughter Jinnie Nico 5, abt 1925 NY
son Vincent Nico 4, abt 1926 NY
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1942 WWII Draft Registration Card

Oresto Nico 64
80 Prospect Street
Brooklyn, Kings, NY
born 15 Aug 1878 in Cervicocti (Cervicatti)

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Postby vj » 02 Jun 2009, 13:29

Update,
We rec'd confirmation via PM that this is the correct family.
Oresto Nico was married twice.
Looking for manifest for Letezia Damiano, abt 1920 also from Cervicati.
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...siblings names, parents names etc...on both my grandmother Letezia Damiano, and grandfather Oresto Nico ...


Cosenza has some records online (free registration):
http://88.59.143.158/ascs_web/index.fac ... 2455.node1
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You could request records from Cervicati by writing to the comune:

Italian form letter generator with instructions:
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... civile.asp

Address:

Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Comune di Cervicati
Piazza Guzolini
87010 Cervicati CS
ITALY
http://www.nonsolocap.it/calabria/86-cervicati/

Website for finding comune addresses:
http://www.nonsolocap.it/
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You could also review your family’s records on microfilm

Your nearest Family History Center has records for Cervicati on microfilm.
The cost is about $6 mo (rent), you’ll need to go to the center to order & view them.

Family History Library Catalog:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library ... t_fhlc.asp

film notes for Cervicati

Topic Italy, Cosenza, Cervicati - Civil registration
Titles Registri dello stato civile, 1809-1910 Cervicati (Cosenza).
Ufficio dello stato civile

In case you aren’t familiar with the Famly History Center & Italian records

FamilySearch Home Page
Includes how to find your nearest local Family History Center

A helpful essay written by Trish, one of our forum members:
Steps for Finding Microfilm at the Family History Center
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Italian Record Research from the FamilySearch guides:
Italy Research Outline
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Also from Family Search (PDF format)
Italian Records Extraction - An Instructional Guide

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Postby enzonico » 02 Jun 2009, 13:54

Thanks for all your assistance. You guys are great. here is another one for you...My maternal grandmother Corsigana Lacalamita Sigismondo came from Giovinazzo Bari with three daughters Addelorata, Grazia and Anna around 1938/39 to NYC. Can you tell me any information on the name of the ship, manifest, etc.

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Postby wldspirit » 02 Jun 2009, 14:05

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Corsignana Lacalamita
Arrival Date: 19 Oct 1938
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Age: 45
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Place of Origin: Italy
Ethnicity/Race-
/Nationality: Italian;Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Conte Di Savoia
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Nativity: Italy
Line: 1
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_6237
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: Giovinazzo
Page Number: 76
Friend's Name: Paolo Sigismondo
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States

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Postby vj » 02 Jun 2009, 15:22

Paolo Sigismondo

For your records in case you don't already have it

probable 1942 WWII Draft Registration card
page 2

Paolo Sigismondo 57
563 17th Street
Brooklyn, Kings, NY
born 7 Jan 1883 in Giovinazzo
wife Corsiliani Sigismondo at same address
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For your Sigismondo & Lacalamita records in Italy:

Writing to Giovinazzo

Address:

Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Comune di Giovinazzo
Piazza Vittorio Emanuele II, 64
70054 Giovinazzo BA
ITALY
http://www.nonsolocap.it/puglia/51-giovinazzo/
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and Giovinazzo microfilm

film notes for Giovinazzo

Topic Italy, Bari, Giovinazzo - Civil registration
Titles Registri dello stato civile, Giovinazzo (Bari), 1809-1900 Giovinazzo (Bari). Ufficio dello stato civile

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Postby enzonico » 02 Jun 2009, 18:06

My mother and and all four grandparents were born in Italy, emigrated to the US, and then gave up their Italian citizenships to become US citizens before I was born. Do any of you know if there is any mechanism for me to apply for Italain citizenship based upon ancestry even though mother/relatives are not current Italian citizens? Thanks...

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Postby vj » 02 Jun 2009, 19:54

Here are basic guidelines from the Expats in Italy forum:

Italian Citizenship Jure Sanguinis
1. Your father was an Italian citizen at the time of your birth and you never renounced your rights to Italian citizenship (trust me. you haven’t done this.)
2. Your mother was an Italian citizen at the time of your birth, you were born AFTER January 1, 1948 and you never renounced your rights to Italian citizenship.
3. Your father was born in the USA, his father was an Italian Citizen at the time of his birth and neither you or your dad renounced your rights to Italian Citizenship.
4. Your mother was born in the USA, her father was an Italian Citizenship when she was born and you were born AFTER January 1, 1948 and neither of you renounced your rights to Italian citizenship,
5. Your paternal or maternal grandfather was born in the USA, your maternal or paternal great grandfather was an Italian citizen at the time of his/her birth, neither you nor your father/mother nor you grandfather/grandmother ever renounced rights to Italian Citizenship.

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My mother and and all four grandparents were born in Italy, emigrated to the US, and then gave up their Italian citizenships to become US citizens before I was born. Do any of you know if there is any mechanism for me to apply for Italain citizenship based upon ancestry even though mother/relatives are not current Italian citizens? Thanks...


If you post your reply under the Immigration, Naturalization and Italian Citizenship, members who are going thru the process can help guide you as well.
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