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Angrisano-Shano Family

Postby Lindsay478 » 04 Jun 2009, 18:38

Trying to find information or at least a jumping off point...
My great grandfather, William Baron Shano was born in Italy (probably Messina in Sicily) according to oral family history he was an orphan and in the care of nuns who gave him the last name "Shano" and I was told it means "has no one" or something to that effect. His middle name "Baron" was actually a title that he won during a card game on the boat over to the U.S. I would really like some help where to get started with this. I have not guarantees to the authenticity of the stories. His real name may not have actually been William since a great deal of my family Anglicanized their first names.
His second wife was Rosalie Angrisano (my great grandmother), her father was "Mike" Angrisano (my great great grandfather), her mother's name is unknown at this time. I know that the Angrisano family came from Palermo, but the woman he married allegedly is from Northern Italy so says my mother since she had very light hair and light hazel eyes.
Anyone with information or anyone willing to let me pick their brain, please contact me!
I'll post more information as I find it.
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Re: Angrisano-Shano Family

Postby vj » 04 Jun 2009, 18:46

Hello and Welcome to the Forum :D !
We'll all be happy to see what we can do to help.
Sometimes it only takes one good record, like a US census, to give you some clues on where to look next.
Usually you would start with yourself & everything you know about your parents and grandparents and gradually work backwards.
Many of us have subscriptions that may help get you through some of your roadblocks.
Do you have any birth dates, locations, family names that may help in the search - available US census records start at 1930 and go backwards.
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For example, do these records belong to your family?

WESTLAWN MEMORIAL PARK,
GRETNA WEST JEFFERSON PARISH
LOUISIANA
http://files.usgwarchives.org/la/jeffer ... stlaws.txt

SHANO, WILLIAM BARON A-174-003 10-14-1955
SHANO, ROSALIE ANGRISANO A-174-004 12-28-1985

Social Security Death Index

Name: William Shano
Date of Birth: Tuesday June 02, 1896
Date of Death: October 1955
Est. Age at death: 59 years, 4 months
Last known residence:
State: Unknown
Social Security details:
State of Issue: Louisiana
Number: 434-22-xxxx

Name: Rosalie Shano
Date of Birth: Sunday November 05, 1905
Date of Death: December 1985
Est. Age at death: 80 years, 1 months
Last known residence:
State: Unknown
Social Security details:
State of Issue: Louisiana
Number: 438-36-xxxx
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For William Baron Shano, if no records are found with his parents’ names,
You may want to order this, cost abt $27

Social Security Application SS-5

His SS# is available here if you don’t already have it:
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/ ... _form=true

About the SS Application:
http://genealogy.about.com/od/online_re ... equest.htm

The SS-5, or Application for Social Security Number is a great resource for learning more about individuals ..., and generally includes the following:
- Full name
- Full name at birth, including maiden name
- Present mailing address
- Age at last birthday
- Date of birth
- Place of birth (city, county, State)
- Father's full name
- Mother's full name, including maiden name
- Sex
- Race as indicated by the applicant
- Whether the applicant ever applied for Social Security or Railroad Retirement before
- Current employer's name and address
- Date signed
- Applicant's signature


Order form SSA-711 (can be done online):
http://www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm
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Re: Angrisano-Shano Family

Postby vj » 04 Jun 2009, 19:28

Is this William Shano's first wife?

from ancestry. com

New Orleans, Louisiana Death Records Index, 1804-1949
Barbara Laine Shano 40 yrs 22 Jun 1927 W 1293 194
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possible 1920 census

Home in 1920:
227 Jefferson Street, rents
Milwaukee Ward 3, Milwaukee, Wisconsin

head William Shano 28, abt 1892 IT
-immig 1908, Naturalized 1918
- laborer foundry
wife Barbara Shano 28, abt 1892 LA
daughter Alice Shano 10, abt 1910 LA
daughter Valentina Shano 8, abt 1912 LA
daughter Matilda Shano 5, abt 1915 LA
son Henry Shano 3, abt 1917 LA
son Charles Shano 1/12, abt 1919 Wisconsin
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Re: Angrisano-Shano Family

Postby suanj » 04 Jun 2009, 19:40

Hi Lindsay478 and welcome in the forum!
I have some doubt abt Shano spelling....
this is the 1920 census abt your ancestor:
1920 United States Federal Census about William Shano
Name: William Shano
Home in 1920: Milwaukee Ward 3, Milwaukee, Wisconsin
Age: 28 years

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1892
[abt 1897]

Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head-of-house: Head
Spouse's name: Barbara
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1908
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 226
Neighbors: View others on page

Household Members: Name Age
William Shano
28
Barbara Shano
28
Alice Shano
10
Valentina Shano
8
Matilda Shano
5
Henry Shano
3
Charles Shano
1/12


all children born in Louisiana; the last child, Charles was born in Wisconsin..
I found a WWI draft registration card abt
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about William Shono
Name: William Shono
City: Milwaukee
County: Milwaukee
State: Wisconsin
Birthplace: Italy
Birth Date: 14 Mar 1887
Race: White
Roll: 1674778
DraftBoard: 1
Age:

Occupation:

Nearest Relative:

Height/Build:

Color of Eyes/Hair:

Signature: View Image

born in Setgata Messina; I believe Sant'Agata di militello in Messina province;
http://img193.imageshack.us/my.php?imag ... mshano.jpg
the birthdate is no equal and maybe is not your ancestor, but frankly is very probable...
best regards,
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edit: vj more fast abt the 1920 census! :wink:
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Re: Angrisano-Shano Family

Postby Lindsay478 » 04 Jun 2009, 19:49

WOW you guys are great! The burial info is correct. The social info seems correct, however I was told that my grandfather was never naturalized....
the 1920 census info isn't him, or at least I don't believe. As far as I know, there was only 1 child from that marriage and that would be my uncle Joe (Joseph, I am assuming). However I do know that he was in Wisconsin at some point, because that is where my grandmother was born and she is one of the youngest from the 2nd marriage which produced 9 children. All of which lived here or at least lived and some passed here (New Orleans area).
My mom is going to help dig some information up and I'm trying to make a trip up to visit my grandmother. She had a stroke a few years ago and her speech is impaired, so it will be a crazy game of charades to get names and possible dates.
I REALLY appreciate the help!
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Re: Angrisano-Shano Family

Postby suanj » 04 Jun 2009, 19:53

well the surname could be SCIANO' in italian spelling... and of Sant'Agata di Militello... I believe correct the WWI draft registration card...
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Re: Angrisano-Shano Family

Postby vj » 04 Jun 2009, 20:13

suanj wrote:well the surname could be SCIANO' in italian spelling... and of Sant'Agata di Militello... I believe correct the WWI draft registration card...
suanj


Hello!
If Barbara Laine Shano (1887-1927) was William's 1st wife, then it is likely that his birth date was closer to 1887 than 1896
I think suanj :D has the correct WWI Card if William spent time in Wisconsin.
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Re: Angrisano-Shano Family

Postby Lindsay478 » 04 Jun 2009, 20:35

It's going to be interesting to see how it all pans out. Basically I was told that if it's a Shano it's GOT to be a relation. I'm going to see if my mom can get together some dates/names/etc. And My great aunts & uncles get together once a week to have dinner, I'll call ahead to say we're coming and bring a recorder. Hopefully by next weekend I'll be loaded with actual and anecdotal history.
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Re: Angrisano-Shano Family

Postby vj » 04 Jun 2009, 20:40

Lindsay478 wrote:... As far as I know, there was only 1 child from that marriage and that would be my uncle Joe (Joseph, I am assuming). However I do know that he was in Wisconsin at some point, because that is where my grandmother was born and she is one of the youngest from the 2nd marriage which produced 9 children...


Sometimes obituaries can be helpful in tracking down and verifying family records
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from HeritageQuest

Times-Picayune, The (New Orleans, LA) - October 28, 1999

Deceased Name: JOSEPH B. SHANO

Joseph B. Shano, a retired watchman for Plaquemines Parish government, died Tuesday of undetermined causes at Meadowcrest Hospital. He was 78. Mr. Shano was born in Cedarburg, Wis. and lived in Belle Chasse for the past 23 years. He was an Army veteran.
Survivors include two sons, George and Joseph B. Shano Jr.; nine daughters, Bernadette Burk, Jeanette Carter, Lilly Terrebonne, Virginia Sutton, Elaine Shano Maltese, Annette Necaise, Betty Lou Stansburg, Shirley Wick and Mary Louise Gioiello;
four brothers, Mike Shano Sr., William Shano Jr., Charlie and Paul Shano; three sisters, Angelina Bourgeois, Lena Kass and Mary Richard;
33 grandchildren; and 33 great-grandchildren.
A funeral will be held today at 11 a.m. at Mothe Funeral Home, 2100 West Bank Expressway, Harvey. Visitation will begin at 8:30 a.m.
Burial will be in Restlawn Park Cemetery in Avondale.

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Lindsay478 wrote:It's going to be interesting to see how it all pans out. Basically I was told that if it's a Shano it's GOT to be a relation. I'm going to see if my mom can get together some dates/names/etc. And My great aunts & uncles get together once a week to have dinner, I'll call ahead to say we're coming and bring a recorder. Hopefully by next weekend I'll be loaded with actual and anecdotal history.


And your camera :wink:
Sounds like a plan
Here's a neat article on interviewing:
http://genealogy.about.com/cs/oralhisto ... erview.htm
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Re: Angrisano-Shano Family

Postby Lindsay478 » 04 Jun 2009, 20:48

Times-Picayune, The (New Orleans, LA) - October 28, 1999

Deceased Name: JOSEPH B. SHANO

Joseph B. Shano, a retired watchman for Plaquemines Parish government, died Tuesday of undetermined causes at Meadowcrest Hospital. He was 78. Mr. Shano was born in Cedarburg, Wis. and lived in Belle Chasse for the past 23 years. He was an Army veteran.
Survivors include two sons, George and Joseph B. Shano Jr.; nine daughters, Bernadette Burk, Jeanette Carter, Lilly Terrebonne, Virginia Sutton, Elaine Shano Maltese, Annette Necaise, Betty Lou Stansburg, Shirley Wick and Mary Louise Gioiello;
four brothers, Mike Shano Sr., William Shano Jr., Charlie and Paul Shano; three sisters, Angelina Bourgeois, Lena Kass and Mary Richard;
33 grandchildren; and 33 great-grandchildren.
A funeral will be held today at 11 a.m. at Mothe Funeral Home, 2100 West Bank Expressway, Harvey. Visitation will begin at 8:30 a.m.
Burial will be in Restlawn Park Cemetery in Avondale.

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YEP, that's my Uncle Joe, Mary (his sister) is my grandmother. William Shano Jr. (brother) also passed, and Louise Breaux (sister not listed) passed, and Sam (brother not listed) also passed.
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Re: Angrisano-Shano Family

Postby vj » 04 Jun 2009, 21:07

interesting 1930 census

Home in 1930:
936 Racine, rents $10
Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin

head Bagano (Benigno? Biaggio?) Shano 37, abt 1893 IT
- 1st marriage age 25, abt 1918
- immig 1908, Naturalized
- laborer foundry
- military - served in WWI
wife Rosa Shano 24, abt 1906 WI (parents IT)
- 1st marriage age 22, abt 1928
son Joe Shano 10, abt 1920 WI
daughter Angelina Shano, abt 1930 WI
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Re: Angrisano-Shano Family

Postby Lindsay478 » 04 Jun 2009, 21:15

vj wrote:interesting 1930 census

Home in 1930:
936 Racine, rents $10
Milwaukee, Milwaukee, Wisconsin

head Bagano (Benigno? Biaggio?) Shano 37, abt 1893 IT
- 1st marriage age 25, abt 1918
- immig 1908, Naturalized
- laborer foundry
- military - served in WWI
wife Rosa Shano 24, abt 1906 WI (parents IT)
- 1st marriage age 22, abt 1928
son Joe Shano 10, abt 1920 WI
daughter Angelina Shano, abt 1930 WI



you may have hit on something...
my grandmother used to call my grandfather 'biaggia' (sp?)
and her name was Rosalie but everyone called her Rose or Rosie.
The kids from that marriage are William Jr., Mike Sr., Sam, Charlie, Paul Louise, Lena, Angelina, & Mary. I don't know the exact birth order, but I do know Paul is the youngest.
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Re: Angrisano-Shano Family

Postby vj » 04 Jun 2009, 22:45

Rosalie Angrisano

(note: census records were only as accurate as the peson giving the information and how well the enumerator understood them)

from ancestry. com

1910 census

Home in 1910:
Farm #11, owns
Railroad & Public Road
Red Cross, Plaquemines, Louisiana

head Mike Anglosona 23, abt 1887 IT
- married 6 years, abt 1904
- immig 1903, Al
- farmer, own farm
wife Angela Anglosona 20, abt 1890 IT
- 3 children born, 2 children living
- immig 1903
daughter Rosa Anglosona 5, abt 1905 LA
daughter Louise Anglosona 1 2/12, abt 1908 LA
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1918 WWI Draft Registration Card

Mike Angusano (signed Angrisano) 34
Dalcour P.O., Plaquemines, Louisiana
born 11 Dec 1884
declarant
farmer
nearest relative Angelina
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1920 census
page 2

Home in 1920:
Farm #14
Marrero, Jefferson, Louisiana

head Mohel (Michael) Angrisano 35, abt 1885 IT
- immig 1904, Al
- truck farmer, working on own account
wife Angelena Angrisano 32, abt 1888 IT
- immig 1902, Al
daughter Boralie (Rosalie) Angrisano 13, abt 1907 LA
daughter Louise Angrisano 10, abt 1910 LA
son Anthony Angrisano 10, abt 1910 LA
daughter Jennie Angrisano 8, abt 1912 LA
daughter Francis Angrisano 7, abt 1913 LA
daughter Vena Angrisano 3 6/12, abt 1916 LA
daughter Mary Angrisano 1, abt 1919 LA
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1930 census

Home in 1930:
Farm, owns $6000
Louisiana State Highway
Police Jury Ward 4, Jefferson, Louisiana

head Mike Angoisano 44, abt 1886 IT
- married age 21, abt 1907
- immig 1904, Naturalized
wife Angelina Angoisano 43, abt 1887 IT
- married age 20
- immig 1896
daughter Louise Angoisano 21, abt 1909 LA
daughter Jennie Angoisano 19, abt 1911 LA
son Tony Angoisano 18, abt 1912 LA
daughter Frances Angoisano 14, abt 1916 LA
daughter Josephine Angoisano 13, abt 1917 LA
daughter Mary Angoisano 10, abt 1920 LA
daughter Annie Angoisano 9, abt 1921 LA
son Paul Angoisano 5, abt 1925 LA
daughter Angelina Angoisano 3 5/12, abt 1926 LA
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possible death record from:
http://www.sos.louisiana.gov/tabid/638/Default.aspx

Year Age Month Day Name Parish
1957 72 5 7 ANGRISANO, MICHAEL Orleans
Page: 3055 Volume: 0

(born abt 1885)
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Rosalie's sister Louise
obituary from USGenWeb
http://www.usgwarchives.net/search/sear ... m=extended

Louise A Roddy on Wednesday March 2 1977 at 12:15 am wife of the late Charles L Roddy mother of Mrs Gloria Hues,
daughter of the late Angelina Maniba and Mike Angrisano sister of Mrs Roselle Shano, Mrs Francis Cortez, Mrs Anna Gros, Mrs Angeline Pons and Paul Angrisano and the late Mary Badeaux, Mrs Jenny Saparita and Tony Angrisano Sr
also survived by 1 grand child.
Aged 67 years a native of Plaquemines Parish and a resident of Gretna for 47 years.
Born 1-29-1909
SS# 433-40-xxxx


and sister Anna

Anna Gros, 'Aunt Nannie' Died Monday, December 1, 2003 At 10:30pm At The Age Of 82.
Mother Of Angelina Matherne And Russell Gros, Grandmother Of April Vick, John Shaw, Melissa Gros,
Joshua Gros, Ashley Gros, Great Grandmother Of David Shaw,
Mrs. Gros Is The Daughter Of The Late Mike and Angelina Mandina,
She Is The Sister Of The Rosalie Shano, Louise Roddy, Frances Cortez, Jennie
Saparita, Josephine Eskine, Angelina Pons, Mary Badeaux, Tony Angrisano And Paul Angrisano.
Relatives, Friends Of The Family, Plaquemines Parish School Board, Lab Corp, Terreborne General, Schneider
National, And Mastec, Are Invited To The Funeral. A Funeral Mass Will Be Celebrated In The Chapel Of
Westside/ Leitz-Eagan Funeral Home, 5100 Westbank Expressway, On Thursday, December 4, 2003 At 1:00pm.
Friends May Visit At The Funeral Home On Thursday Beginning At 9:00am. Burial Will Be In Westlawn
Cemetery In Gretna. Information 341-9421. Times Picayune 12-03-2003
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Re: Angrisano-Shano Family

Postby Lindsay478 » 05 Jun 2009, 01:06

vj wrote:Rosalie Angrisano

(note: census records were only as accurate as the peson giving the information and how well the enumerator understood them)

from ancestry. com

1910 census

Home in 1910:
Farm #11, owns
Railroad & Public Road
Red Cross, Plaquemines, Louisiana

head Mike Anglosona 23, abt 1887 IT
- married 6 years, abt 1904
- immig 1903, Al
- farmer, own farm
wife Angela Anglosona 20, abt 1890 IT
- 3 children born, 2 children living
- immig 1903
daughter Rosa Anglosona 5, abt 1905 LA
daughter Louise Anglosona 1 2/12, abt 1908 LA
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1918 WWI Draft Registration Card

Mike Angusano (signed Angrisano) 34
Dalcour P.O., Plaquemines, Louisiana
born 11 Dec 1884
declarant
farmer
nearest relative Angelina
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1920 census
page 2

Home in 1920:
Farm #14
Marrero, Jefferson, Louisiana

head Mohel (Michael) Angrisano 35, abt 1885 IT
- immig 1904, Al
- truck farmer, working on own account
wife Angelena Angrisano 32, abt 1888 IT
- immig 1902, Al
daughter Boralie (Rosalie) Angrisano 13, abt 1907 LA
daughter Louise Angrisano 10, abt 1910 LA
son Anthony Angrisano 10, abt 1910 LA
daughter Jennie Angrisano 8, abt 1912 LA
daughter Francis Angrisano 7, abt 1913 LA
daughter Vena Angrisano 3 6/12, abt 1916 LA
daughter Mary Angrisano 1, abt 1919 LA
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1930 census

Home in 1930:
Farm, owns $6000
Louisiana State Highway
Police Jury Ward 4, Jefferson, Louisiana

head Mike Angoisano 44, abt 1886 IT
- married age 21, abt 1907
- immig 1904, Naturalized
wife Angelina Angoisano 43, abt 1887 IT
- married age 20
- immig 1896
daughter Louise Angoisano 21, abt 1909 LA
daughter Jennie Angoisano 19, abt 1911 LA
son Tony Angoisano 18, abt 1912 LA
daughter Frances Angoisano 14, abt 1916 LA
daughter Josephine Angoisano 13, abt 1917 LA
daughter Mary Angoisano 10, abt 1920 LA
daughter Annie Angoisano 9, abt 1921 LA
son Paul Angoisano 5, abt 1925 LA
daughter Angelina Angoisano 3 5/12, abt 1926 LA
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possible death record from:
http://www.sos.louisiana.gov/tabid/638/Default.aspx

Year Age Month Day Name Parish
1957 72 5 7 ANGRISANO, MICHAEL Orleans
Page: 3055 Volume: 0

(born abt 1885)
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Rosalie's sister Louise
obituary from USGenWeb
http://www.usgwarchives.net/search/sear ... m=extended

Louise A Roddy on Wednesday March 2 1977 at 12:15 am wife of the late Charles L Roddy mother of Mrs Gloria Hues,
daughter of the late Angelina Maniba and Mike Angrisano sister of Mrs Roselle Shano, Mrs Francis Cortez, Mrs Anna Gros, Mrs Angeline Pons and Paul Angrisano and the late Mary Badeaux, Mrs Jenny Saparita and Tony Angrisano Sr
also survived by 1 grand child.
Aged 67 years a native of Plaquemines Parish and a resident of Gretna for 47 years.
Born 1-29-1909
SS# 433-40-xxxx


and sister Anna

Anna Gros, 'Aunt Nannie' Died Monday, December 1, 2003 At 10:30pm At The Age Of 82.
Mother Of Angelina Matherne And Russell Gros, Grandmother Of April Vick, John Shaw, Melissa Gros,
Joshua Gros, Ashley Gros, Great Grandmother Of David Shaw,
Mrs. Gros Is The Daughter Of The Late Mike and Angelina Mandina,
She Is The Sister Of The Rosalie Shano, Louise Roddy, Frances Cortez, Jennie
Saparita, Josephine Eskine, Angelina Pons, Mary Badeaux, Tony Angrisano And Paul Angrisano.
Relatives, Friends Of The Family, Plaquemines Parish School Board, Lab Corp, Terreborne General, Schneider
National, And Mastec, Are Invited To The Funeral. A Funeral Mass Will Be Celebrated In The Chapel Of
Westside/ Leitz-Eagan Funeral Home, 5100 Westbank Expressway, On Thursday, December 4, 2003 At 1:00pm.
Friends May Visit At The Funeral Home On Thursday Beginning At 9:00am. Burial Will Be In Westlawn
Cemetery In Gretna. Information 341-9421. Times Picayune 12-03-2003


This would be the great great aunts & uncles. How then, do I get immigration information for my great great grandparents?
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Re: Angrisano-Shano Family

Postby vj » 05 Jun 2009, 11:46

If they came thru New York between 1892 and 1924, check Ellis Island:
here: http://stevemorse.org/ellis2/ellisgold.html
or here: http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... 7819#start

If they arrived in NY before 1892, check Castle Garden:
here: http://www.stevemorse.org/ellis/cg.html

Other ports are on ancestry. com (subscription)
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