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Postby myra » 07 Dec 2003, 07:56

The Jews lived in Sicily until 1492 when during the Spanish Inquisition they were forced out. I am trying to find out if I have Jewish roots. Many of my family members "looked" Jewish and we were always referred to as "the Jews". I have been unable to make a solid connection. Some of the family names are: Alletto, Cammaratta, Barbaro, and Mortalara. If anyone can help, PLEASE DO!
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Postby suanj » 07 Dec 2003, 11:36

Hi: this surnames not are in italian jewish list http://italy.indymedia.org/news/2003/05/291671.php
but, is very common in Italy to call popularly "hebrew" with this nickname those families why do not love to spend money.. perhaps this is a explanation... regards, suanj
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Postby raymo » 10 Dec 2003, 22:31

Hi Myra,

Please check out www.jewishencyclopaedia.com to see different surnames.
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Postby myra » 13 Dec 2003, 18:58

It's very frustrating. I have not been having a lot of luck in my search. I have tried several websites to no avail. I don't want to give up. Any more suggestions, I'm open.
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Re: Sicilian Jewish Heritage

Postby suanj » 13 Dec 2003, 20:28

myra wrote:The Jews lived in Sicily until 1492 when during the Spanish Inquisition they were forced out. I am trying to find out if I have Jewish roots. Many of my family members "looked" Jewish and we were always referred to as "the Jews". I have been unable to make a solid connection. Some of the family names are: Alletto, Cammaratta, Barbaro, and Mortalara. If anyone can help, PLEASE DO!


More: currently Cammaratta surname not exist in Italy..exist only in Usa, probable coming from misspelling italian surname: Cammarata(present in 141 sicialian commons) and Cammarota(present in 4 sicialian commons)...also Mortalara not exist in Italy...but very probable exact spelling this surname is Mortellaro(present in 31 sicialian Commons)..Barbaro: present in 64 sicialian commons; Aletto:in 25 Commons....More: Cammarata surname is very ancient and of noble origin: an Lucia Cammarata noble woman in 1175, judicial argument gained against bishop of Cefalù it was recognized real Milady of "Miccichè Feudo-Villalba-Sicily"...they do not turn out these last names of Hebrew origin ... but for your double please visite this italian hebrew website http://www.morasha.it/ and send an email with your topic to : redazion@morasha.it
good luck!!

Moreover, currently Cammarata surname in Italy is connected with the Hebrew culture...
Cammarata (Roma)http://www.romacivica.net/anpiroma/antifascismo/biografie%20antifascisti51.html
Cammarata(Sicilia)hebrew art-around 1300-1400
http://www.exibart.com/txt/notizia.asp? ... tegoria=79

More on familysearch.org, Cammaratta surname in the past existed in Italy and especially in Sicily. From reading are records of Cammaratta persons christening, and Cammaratta persons not christening, only birthdates...this can mean that were not Christian
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Postby Sharpie » 18 Dec 2003, 01:09

I do find some Census images on Alletto. In the Census of 1920. Also, Anna E Alletto 06 Feb 1868 35 F Liverpool, England USA USA Java

Another is Salvatore Alletto 17 W IT Cuyahoga, Cleveland Boarder Relation Name Color Age Birth Place
Head of Household Cireno Lottie

and

WW1 draft solider name
Alletto Soldiers of the Great War Volume 3 Soldiers of the Great War Tennessee

If you want the images let me know.

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Postby ptimber » 18 Dec 2003, 02:15

RAYMO how did you make out with the website that SUANJ furnished you? She is a cracker jack with Italian websites and she will steer you n the right direection. Peter
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Postby Sharpie » 18 Dec 2003, 15:07

Here is some names on Barbaro.

Italian Passengers to Louisiana, 1905-10

Antonino Barbaro 5 Oct 1906 31/m/m San Biagio Mobile, Tex. lazio
Giuseppe Barbaro 5 Oct 1906 13/m/s San Biagio Mobile, Tex. lazio


Passenger and Immigration Lists Index, 1500s-1900s

Augustus Barbaro 1880 Ohio
Carmela Barbaro 1921 New York, New York
Francesco Barbaro 1904 West Virginia
Pierre Barbaro 1834 31 New York, New York
Vincent F. Barbaro 1906 Illinois
Jose De Barbaro Mato 1860 Puerto Rico

New York Passenger Lists, 1851-1891
Andrea Barbaro 11 Aug 1854 12 M Genoa USA Surdenia Mississippi
Catharine Barbaro 11 Aug 1854 20 F Genoa USA Surdenia Mississippi
James Barbaro 11 Aug 1854 10 M Genoa USA Surdenia Mississippi
John B Barbaro 11 Aug 1854 67 M Genoa USA Surdenia Mississippi
Louisa Barbaro 11 Aug 1854 57 F Genoa USA Surdenia Mississippi
Wm Barbaro 21 Apr 1857 18 M Liverpool, England NY CHS Cultivator
Mr. De Barbaro 19 May 1864 30 M Liverpool, England and Queenstown, England

New York, 1820-1850 Passenger and Immigration Lists


Antoin Barbaro Dec 4, 1839 33 M Marseille, France Sa???dina??? Brig Theresa
Pierre Barbaro Nov 24, 1834 31 M Havre Italy Ship Rhone
Pietro Barbaro Sep 9, 1840 40 M Havre Italy Francis Honoré

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Postby Sharpie » 18 Dec 2003, 15:18

I forgot this information.

New York County Supreme Court Naturalization Petition Index, 1907-24


Domenico Cammaratta 519 E. 13 St. 26 Jan 1912 (Denied) 23 113


Social Security Death Index

FANNIE A CAMMARATTA 22 Jul 1908 Jul 1994 Revere, Suffolk, MA MA (Before 1951 ) 021-03-4445
GIUSEPPA CAMMARATTA 21 Feb 1880 Jul 1966 Boston, Suffolk, MA MA (1965 And 1966 ) 020-40-6743
JOHN D CAMMARATTA 21 Dec 1905 20 Feb 1991 Revere, Suffolk, MA MA (Before 1951 ) 012-09-8833
TONY CAMMARATTA 18 Feb 1904 Feb 1991 NJ (1969 ) 135-48-2139


1920 Census Image.

Cammaratta, Charles 10 1909 Maryland White Baltimore, Baltimore City (Independent City), Maryland
Cammaratta??, Frank 55?? Italy White Brooklyn, Kings, New York


1930 Cenus Image.

Stefano Cammaratta 75 1854 Italy Head White Boston, Suffolk, MA
Rosa Cammaratta 68 1861 Wife Boston, Suffolk, MA
Kate Cammaratta 70 1859 Italy Grandmother-in-law White Trenton, Mercer, NJ
Michael Cammaratta 35 1894 Brother-in-law Trenton, Mercer, NJ

New Orleans, Louisiana Death Records Index, 1804-1949

Mary Mascaretti Cammaratta 61 Jun 1944 3807 220


California Death Index, 1940-1997

COLLETTE, JOE 8 Oct 1948 LOS ANGELES 700148548 MALE 22 Jun 1884 OTHER COUNTRY MORTALARA
LEPORE, AGNES 23 Feb 1986 ORANGE 560210641 FEMALE 26 Sep 1904 OTHER COUNTRY MORTALARA

If any of this information can help you let me know.

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Postby ptimber » 18 Dec 2003, 16:03

Dear Sandra I recall having had to deal with your inability to answer questions on the different forums inadequately. You are way off in furnishing the information that the poster wanted. By furnishing superflous information all you do is confuse the reader since it does not make genealogy sense. Please try another forum which is easier for you to handle. Thank you. Peter
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Postby Sharpie » 18 Dec 2003, 17:45

Peter,

If Myra thinks I am not helping... let this person say it to me on the forum. It is not your duty to respond to my post but to the person who is doing the posting. Just respond to them not to me. I'm sure the people in this forum do not want to see nor hear a battle going on between us. Stop, playing this childs game. If I am useless to the people on this forum I am sure they will say so. I know they can speak for themself.

I don't have time for you. Now, please Peter, don't be a humbug and just enjoy the holidays. :lol:

Peter, seems to have fun bashing me all over the place in this forum and why I don't know and I really don't care.

Thanks Peter and Happy Holidays to you and yours.

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Postby ptimber » 18 Dec 2003, 20:49

I reserve to myself the right to tell you when your out of the loop when it cvomes to italian genealogy. You seem to think that people can trace their families with whatever you put down without any regard to what they are seeking or how do they go about obtaining it.

I recall when you were trying to trace your family from Puerto Rico to Italy and no amount of effort in trying to assist you made any difference. You live in your own world when it comes to genealogy. Peter
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Postby myra » 24 Dec 2003, 21:15

I thank you all for your contributions. I am still facing challenges in finding my Jewish roots. I have even contacted a DNA company. Please continue to offer your advice. I do follow up. Thank you again.
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