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Sansone and Costa

Postby sal4 » 05 Jun 2009, 12:57

Hi Everyone....I really need your help......My father in law is in his mid 80's and really does not know much of anything about his family........His mother died when he was about 10 yrs old and his father even though he lived a very long life had dementia pretty bad...I have very little information to go on. I'm looking for info on Francis Sansone (maybe Francesca?) born June 10, 1887? died May 19, 1935? was married to a man by the last name of Catalano maybe in Illinois and they had 6-8children.... he was murdered, her parents names maybe Joe Sansone and Josepa Rini, I have no idea from what part of Italy they came from.... she and married Anthony Costa (maybe Antonio) from Catania Sicily?) born 1873? died Nov 18, 1965 at the age of 92.. (he had 6-8 children from his other wife that died)....They married and lived on E 124 St in Cleveland, Ohio (Little Italy) and had my father in law Ignatius Costa in 1925 ....I don't know if they were ever citizens or not.....I hope that someone can help me, I would love to be able to give my father in law some family history....
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Re: Sansone and Costa

Postby vj » 05 Jun 2009, 13:15

Hello!

for reference:
1930 census

Home in 1930:
1940 East 124th Street, owns $1100
Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio

head Anthony Costa 55, abt 1875 IT
- 1st marriage age 20, abt 1895
- immig 1907, Na
- construction, cement work
wife Frances Costa 42, abt 1888 IT
- 1st marriage age 17, abt 1905
- immig 1906, Na
son Nicholas Costa 31, abt 1899 IT
- immig 1907, Na
son Joseph Costa 25, abt 1905 IT
- immig 1913, Na
daughter Mamie Costa 17, abt 1913 IT
- immig 1913, Na
daughter Mary Costa 14, abt 1916 OH
step son Joseph Catallano 21, abt 1909 OH
step son Anthony Catallano 19, abt 1911 OH
step son Charles Catallano 16, abt 1914 OH
son Nanasten Costa 3 5/12, abt 1926 OH
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Antonio Costa

1918 WWI Draft Registration Card

Tony Costa 42
1940 East 124th Street, Cleveland, Cuyahoga, OH
born 24 Oct 1875 in Italy
non-declarant
bricklayer
married
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from footnote. com

1919 Declaration

Publication Number: M1995
Publication Title: Naturalization Petition and Record Books for the US District Court for the
Northern District of Ohio, Eastern Division, Cleveland, 1907-1946
Content Source: NARA
Partner: NARA
State: Ohio
Court: Northern District, Eastern Division
Surname: Costa
Given Name: Antonio
Document Type: Declaration of Intention
Document Date Year: 1919
Birth Country: Italy

notes:
bricklayer
address 1940 East 124th Street Cleveland
born 13 Oct 1875 in Romacco
(probably Ramacca, province of Catania, Sicilia)
unmarried
emigrated from Messina to NY on SS San Giullamo arrived 3 Mar 1912

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Re: Sansone and Costa

Postby sal4 » 05 Jun 2009, 14:13

Thank You Valarie........You are truly fantastic.....Is there any info on Francis Sansone? My father in law will be very happy about this information..........I look forward to learning more....Thanks...sal4
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Re: Sansone and Costa

Postby vj » 05 Jun 2009, 14:16

We're always happy to help!
You already have her death certificate from the FamilySearch Pilot?
Valarie

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Re: Sansone and Costa

Postby sal4 » 05 Jun 2009, 14:25

No.I don't have it.....I have not been able to locate it on LDS.....I found the date of death from the Cleveland Public Library and the wonderful secretary at Lakeview Cemetary is trying to find more info for me as of parents names if thery are even listed on the documents the cemetary has.....I have to pay to get this info though, so I'll have to wait a little while.......Thanks.......Jackie
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Re: Sansone and Costa

Postby vj » 05 Jun 2009, 14:36

Jackie,
Here you go
Ohio Death Certificates 1908-1953 are online:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... 7819#start

Death Certificate
Name: Frances Costa
Death date: 19 May 1935
Death place: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Birth date: 10 Jun 1887
Birth place: Italy
Age at death: 47 years 11 months 9 days
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Race or color: Caucasian
Street address: 1940 East 124th
Occupation: Housewife
Residence: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Burial date: 22 May 1935
Burial place: Lakeview
Father name: Joe Sansone
Father birth place: Italy
Mother name: Josepa Rini
Mother birth place: Italy
GSU film number: 2022517
Digital GS number: 4001926
Image number: 3259
Reference number: fn 29491
Collection: Ohio Deaths 1908-1953
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It appears that Antonio's 1st wife & son died in 1918

Death Certificate
Name: Ida Costa
Death date: 12 Nov 1918
Death place: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Birth date: 22 Nov 1883
Estimated birth year:
Birth place: Italy
Age at death: 34 years 11 months 20 days
Gender: Female
Marital status: Married
Race or color: Caucasian
Street address: 1940 E. 124 St.
Occupation: Housewife
Residence: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Burial date: 13 Nov 1918
Burial place: Ohio
Cemetery name: Lake View Cem.
Spouse name: Anthony Costa
Father name: Antonio Cuchiara
Father birth place: Italy
Mother name:
Mother birth place: Italy
GSU film number: 1984536
Digital GS number: 4021930
Image number: 1363
Reference number: fn 75209
Collection: Ohio Deaths 1908-1953

Death Certificate
Name: Ignatius Costa
Death date: 17 Nov 1918
Death place: Cleveland, Cuyahoga, Ohio
Birth date: Jul 1915
Birth place: City
Age at death: 3 years 3 months
Gender: Male
Marital status: Single
Race or color: Caucasian
Street address: 1940 East 124th Street
Occupation: None, Child
Burial date: 18 Nov 1918
Burial place: Ohio
Cemetery name: Lake View Cem.
Father name: Antonio Costa
Father birth place: Italy
Mother name: Ida Chuccaia
Mother birth place: Italy
GSU film number: 1984536
Digital GS number: 4021930
Image number: 1734
Reference number: fn 75553
Collection: Ohio Deaths 1908-1953

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Re: Sansone and Costa

Postby vj » 05 Jun 2009, 14:53

Francesca Sansone

One possibility, will need to locate other records...

possible 1904 manifest

19 Dec 1904 SS Roma, Naples to New York
lines 9-10

Carmelo Catalano 22 (abt 1882)
- last residence Palermo (may be Termini Imerese)
- destination Baltimore to join brother Giuseppe
- in Baltimore 1897-1902
wife Francesca Sansone 18 (abt 1886)

edit: added
Camelo's 1898 manifest[

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Re: Sansone and Costa

Postby sal4 » 05 Jun 2009, 15:13

Thank you, Thank You!!!!!!!! I can't believe that buried the baby Ignatius with the 2nd wife in her grave (per the cemetary)........being that the baby is from the first wife.....I have to ask my father in law why and why they would name both he & the baby the same name......I wonder if he remembers..You have truly made my day!!!Jackie
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Re: Sansone and Costa

Postby vj » 05 Jun 2009, 15:15

(Carmelo) Charles Catalano & Francesca Sansone

Possible:
- son Joseph was informant on Francesca's death certificate
- 2 children born in IL
- immigration years match manifests

possible 1910 census

Home in 1910:
37 South Main Street, rents
Lewistown Ward 2, Mifflin, Pennsylvania

head Chas Catalano 28, abt 1882 IT
- married 6 yrs, abt 1904
- immig 1898
- proprietor, fruit store
wife Francisco Catalano 26, abt 1884 IT
- 3 children
- immig 1904
daughter Mary Catalano 5, abt 1905 IL
daughter Josephine Catalano 4, abt 1906 IL
son Joe Catalano 0/12, abt March 1910 PA

edit: correct Joe's birth year to 1910

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Re: Sansone and Costa

Postby sal4 » 05 Jun 2009, 15:28

Valarie........I never thought that you would ever be able to find this much with such little information to go on.........Thank You again......Wow...
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Re: Sansone and Costa

Postby vj » 05 Jun 2009, 15:28

sal4 wrote:.....I have to ask my father in law why and why they would name both he & the baby the same name......I wonder if he remembers...


Hey Jackie!
There may be other family death certificates that I misssed
I hope your father-in-law can confirm some of the information that we found, the 1910 census may be the only record of Frances' 1st husband in the US...
Using the same name for the next child was a common practice, especially if the name had significance for the family
Valarie

From an article this site:
Italian Naming Traditions

There has been a strong custom in Italy that determines how children are named:

The first male is named after his paternal grandfather.
The second male is named after his maternal grandfather.
The first female is named after her paternal grandmother.
The second female is named after her maternal grandmother.

The subsequent children could be named after the parents, a favorite aunt or uncle, a saint or a deceased relative. You will see evidence of this tradition throughout your family tree. Although this custom is pervasive, you should never use this as a method for assuming an ancestor's name. For example, if you know that your grandfather, Francesco, was the oldest son, don't automatically assume that his paternal grandfather was named Francesco. There are exceptions to this naming custom that preclude this assumption. Let's look at a few possible exceptions.

If your ancestor had a falling out with his family and was estranged from them, he would probably not name his children after his parents. Or perhaps he was orphaned and didn't know his parents' names.

A more common exception to the naming tradition is seen in the following scenario. Giovanni Sorrentino names his first born son Luigi, after his father. He has several other children that he names according to custom. When little Luigi is about 8 years old he suddenly dies This was not uncommon. Children often did not live to adulthood in pre-twentieth-century Italy. Since he now has no child named for his father, Giovanni will give the name Luigi to his next son, who happens to be the fourth son. If you were to view this family at this time, the child who appears to be the oldest son is named after his maternal grandfather, not his paternal grandfather. The child named after his paternal grandfather is actually the fourth son. If you were to assume the names of the grandfathers in this situation, you would be wrong.

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Re: Sansone and Costa

Postby sal4 » 05 Jun 2009, 15:35

I will talk to my father in law tonight when I take all this info to him and I will let you know.......I just think it is very strange that they would place the baby in the same plot with the second wife.......Thanks Again.....Jackie
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Re: Sansone and Costa

Postby vj » 05 Jun 2009, 16:49

Antonio Costa and Francesca Sansone Catalano

Married by 1920

1920 census

Home in 1920:
1940 East 124th Street, owns
Cleveland Ward 19, Cuyahoga, Ohio

head Cutain (Antonio) Costa 44, abt 1876 IT
- immig 1907 Al
- bricklayer
wife Frances Costa 32, abt 1888 IT
- immig 1905
son Frank Costa 19, abt 1901 IT
daughter Josephin Costa 14, abt 1906 OH
son Joseph Costa 13, abt 1907 OH
step-son Joseph Costa 11, abt 1909 IL
step-son Antonie Costa 8, abt 1912 OH
daughter Maggie Costa 8, abt 1912 OH
son Charles Costa 6, abt 1914 OH
daughter Mary Costa 3 1/12, abt 1916 OH

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Re: Sansone and Costa

Postby vj » 05 Jun 2009, 17:16

Antonio Costa

2nd trip (this is the one he referred to on his Declaration):
- with son Nicolo & possible brother/cousin
- Antonio was in Cleveland 1908-1912

1913 manifest
page 2
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1st trip

1907 manifest

A picture of the ship
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1323/cittadinapoli.jpg
and
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipI ... 1923050219

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Re: Sansone and Costa

Postby sal4 » 06 Jun 2009, 03:27

I showed my father in law all the info Valarie has uncovered...He was very excited and sad at the same time, he is the last of all the children from both unions...He did said that he was pretty sure that Chas Catalano was Francesca's (his mother's) 1st husband based on the childrens names etc. and he mentioned that there were some brothers & sisters missing from some of the info (census) etc...He asked me why there is no mention of his father's Antonio Costa parents names etc.. and he wanted to know if his father actually became a citizen or did he just apply...He can't remember...I called the local parish from the neighborhood they lived in trying to find their marriage cert, but they were not married there and not in Cleveland from what I can tell.....Valarie he said to say Thank You for all your hard work and God Bless You!....Sal4
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