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help with finding Great Grandmother Pedroli

Postby darrynray » 16 Jun 2009, 06:26

Hello,
I've just reconnected with my Great Grandfather's Italian family (Gheller) after 50 or so years. My Great Grandmother though died in 1917-18 of the flu. Her name and story of what I know is this: Her name was Josephine Pedroli. She lived in Hardwick, Vermont (and perhaps Massachusetts) from 1900 till her death. Her dad was Pietro, Mother was Antonietta, sisters Adel, Mary, Rose and Olympia. Mary I know married and had the last name Williams and had a daughter Vera. I believe the family was from Ispra and moved here before 1900. I've tried to find her marriage/and or death certificate but have had no luck. They only had girls in the family so it's hard to track down the Pedroli line. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

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Re: help with finding Great Grandmother Pedroli

Postby wldspirit » 16 Jun 2009, 08:38

This could be a good possibility, daughter OLYMPIA is very clear on the actual census:


1910 United States Federal Census

Name: Peter Pedroli
Age in 1910: 48
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head-of-house: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's name: Antonis
Home in 1910: Hardwick, Caledonia, Vermont
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1881

Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Pedroli 48
Antonis Pedroli 44
Mary Pedroli 13
Alyinpia M Pedroli 11
Rosa A Pedroli 9
Batista Magistris 35 Boarder
Peter Peduzzi 20 Boarder
Rarrinre Francis Boarder

I am unable to upload the actual image, hopefully another member can provide it for me!!

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Re: help with finding Great Grandmother Pedroli

Postby wldspirit » 16 Jun 2009, 08:53

1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Rose Pedroli
Home in 1930: Boston, Suffolk, Massachusetts
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Age: 27
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1903
Birthplace: Vermont
Relation to Head-of-house: Sister
Race: White

Household Members:
Name Age
Mary Williams 33
Vera Williams 15
Rose Pedroli 27
Antoinette Pedroli 62 Mother, is naturalized.
Raymond Sheller 18 Nephew ( census is clearly Gheller)
Mary Wilson 41 Boarder

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Re: help with finding Great Grandmother Pedroli

Postby wldspirit » 16 Jun 2009, 09:12

Possible manifest for Pietro:


New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Pietro Pedroli
Arrival Date: 28 Jan 1906
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Age: 44
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Havre
Ethnicity/Race-
/Nationality: Italian (North) (Italian)
Ship Name: La Touraine

Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 30
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_660
Page Number: 74

Edit:
There is also a manifest dated before this, same name, birth year, but sailing from Hamburg?? Given the northern location of Ispra, I don't know if that manifest could apply??
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Re: help with finding Great Grandmother Pedroli

Postby wldspirit » 16 Jun 2009, 09:23

A possible census for Josephine:


1910 United States Federal Census

Name: Josephine Theller
[Josephine Gheller]
Age in 1910: 21
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1889
Birthplace: Vermont
Relation to Head-of-house: Wife
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's name: Antonie
Home in 1910: Hardwick, Caledonia, Vermont
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Female

Household Members:
Name Age
Antonie Theller 23
Josephine Theller 21
Emiler Pedrazzi 25
Clara Pedrazzi 17
Elodie Pedrazzi 6/12
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Re: help with finding Great Grandmother Pedroli

Postby vj » 16 Jun 2009, 12:06

Here you go
Valarie

1906 Pietro Pedroli manifest
1910 Peter Pedroli census
1910 Josephine Theller/Gheller census
(Josephine married twice)

1930 Rose Pedroli census
---

possible 1900 Pedroli family census

Home in 1900:
15 Mill Street, rents house
Barre, Washington, Vermont

head Paul Patrolla 38, born Mar 1862 IT
- married 12 yrs, abt 1888
- immig 1895, Al
- stone cutter
(note: Barre VT has the world's largest granite quarries)
wife Antonetta Patrolla 34, born Mar 1866 IT
- 5 children
- immig 1895
daughter Josephine Patrolla 11, born May 1889 IT
- immig 1895
daughter Adel Patrolla 9, born Nov 1890 IT
- immig 1895
daughter Mary Patrolla 4, born Jun 1896 VT
daughter Olympia Patrolla 1, born Mar 1899 VT
---

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Josephine Pedroli's mother Antonietta, sisters & son?

possible 1920 census

Home in 1920:
701 Tremont Street, rents
Boston Ward 7, Suffolk, Massachusetts

head Antoinette Petrea 50, abt 1870 IT
- widow
- immig 1895, Na 1901
daughter Mary Walliams 23, abt 1897 VT
- married
daughter Obyarpra Peteau 20, abt 1900 VT
grand-daughter Vera Williams 5, abt 1915 VT
daughter Rose Petrina 19, abt 1901 VT
nephew (grand son?) Raymond Gheller 8, abt 1912 VT

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Re: help with finding Great Grandmother Pedroli

Postby vj » 16 Jun 2009, 13:39

In case you haven't seen these, a little more information on Antonio Gheller

Jun 1917 WWI Draft Registration Card
notes wife & child

1922 passport application
page 2
Antonio & son, includes picture

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Re: help with finding Great Grandmother Pedroli

Postby uantiti » 16 Jun 2009, 16:32

I found an Antonia (Antonietta is a diminutive of Antonia) Ferrari, 40y, joining her husband Pietro Pedroli, in 1906, travelling with her daughter Maria Pedroli, 10y, going to Ardwick, VT. She was from Vogogna, now in the province of Verbania (Novara before), Piedmont (NW Italy).

Lines 11 and 12


[url=http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_weif_5a.asp?src=%2Fcgi-bin%2Ftif2gif.exe%3FT%3D\\\\192.168.4.226\\IMAGES\\T715-0787\\T715-07870290.TIF%26S%3D.5&pID=800102060021&name=Antonia%26nbsp%3BFerrari&doa=Oct+24%2C+1906&port=Genoa&line=0011]Antonia Pedroli[/url]

There is also a Ferrari Pedroli Antonietta (same person as above), in 1923, widow, 56y, going to Boston, Mass., sister in Italy Caterina Ferrari in Vogogna.

Line 13

[url=http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_weif_5a.asp?src=%2Fcgi-bin%2Ftif2gif.exe%3FT%3D\\\\192.168.4.226\\images\\T715-3264\\T715-32641184.TIF%26S%3D.5&pID=103466010098&name=Antonietta%26nbsp%3BFerrari+Pedroli&doa=Mar+07%2C+1923&port=Genoa&line=0013]Page 1[/url]

[url=http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup_weif_5a.asp?src=%2Fcgi-bin%2Ftif2gif.exe%3FT%3D\\\\192.168.4.226\\images\\T715-3264\\T715-32641183.TIF%26S%3D.5&pID=103466010098&name=Antonietta%26nbsp%3BFerrari+Pedroli&doa=Mar+07%2C+1923&port=Genoa&line=0013]Page 2[/url]

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Re: help with finding Great Grandmother Pedroli

Postby wldspirit » 16 Jun 2009, 16:37

Thank you VJ!! Knew I could count on you!! :D

Did you have a chance to look at the Hamburg manifest? And the handwriting!! Hard on the eyes, but could be an earlier arrival.
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New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Pietro Pedroli
Arrival Date: 29 Feb 1892
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1862
Age: 30
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Ship Name: Rhaetia
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 20
Microfilm Serial: M237
Microfilm Roll: M237_582
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Re: help with finding Great Grandmother Pedroli

Postby vj » 16 Jun 2009, 16:49

Hey Lee :D , The manifest date and Pietro's age fits, but you're right there's not much info
Lee's 1892 manifest find (line 126)

Ada, what a wonderful finds :D !
It appears that Antonia's 1906 manifest was her 2nd trip (in US 1896-1906)
Here's her special inquiry page not much info

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Re: help with finding Great Grandmother Pedroli

Postby uantiti » 16 Jun 2009, 16:57

Thank you Valarie.
If youy look at Pietro Pedroli's manifest 1906, he declares he comes from Novara (many times they declared the province instead of town) and he his going to Ardwick.... so I'm sure Antonia Ferrari was his wife. (Actually, my greatgrandmother's name was Antonia Ferrari too and was living just few miles from Vogogna).

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Re: help with finding Great Grandmother Pedroli

Postby vj » 16 Jun 2009, 17:06

My goodness!
What a team effort, with Lee's & Ada's clues and finds,
I think we have Josephine's 1895 manifest

edit: added detail

22 Jul 1895, Ship Werra to NY
lines 646-8
Antonio (Antonia) Ferrari 29 (abt 1866)
- married
- destination Barre
- boarded in Genoa
Giuseppina 6 (abt 1889)
Adele 3 (abt 1892)

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Re: help with finding Great Grandmother Pedroli

Postby uantiti » 16 Jun 2009, 17:10

Very good Valarie, I found it too and was just going to post it but you were very quick. So Antonia was travelling with Giuseppina and Adele. Names match.

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Re: help with finding Great Grandmother Pedroli

Postby vj » 16 Jun 2009, 17:10

uantiti wrote:Thank you Valarie.
If youy look at Pietro Pedroli's manifest 1906, he declares he comes from Novara (many times they declared the province instead of town) and he his going to Ardwick.... so I'm sure Antonia Ferrari was his wife. (Actually, my greatgrandmother's name was Antonia Ferrari too and was living just few miles from Vogogna).
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Ada, thank you :D !
I forgot to look at where Pietro said he was from on Lee's 1906 manifest.
I also just noticed that he stated he was in the US from 1892-1905.
That matches Lee's 1892 manifest.
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Re: help with finding Great Grandmother Pedroli

Postby vj » 16 Jun 2009, 17:12

uantiti wrote:Very good Valarie, I found it too and was just going to post it but you were very quick. So Antonia was travelling with Giuseppina and Adele. Names match.

Ada


Ada, with your discovery of her last name - the 1895 find was yours :D !
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