Domenico ZACCARDI/ZACCARDO from Muro Lucano (PZ)

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Domenico ZACCARDI/ZACCARDO from Muro Lucano (PZ)

Postby arist » 18 Jun 2009, 00:18

I'm searching for information on my great great grandfather Domenico Zaccardi (Zaccardo) born apx. 1864-1868 (give or take a few?) in Muro Lucano. Married Maria Teresa Degregorio in Chicago in 1893, had son in NYC in 1900, Anthony Zaccardi (Zaccardo) and daughter Rosa in 1902. Moved family back to Muro Lucano in 1904. Maria (born apx 1865-1875) dies apx. 1906-1910? Domenico remarried to ??? Dies in Muro...never naturalized in US.

I've searched ancestry.com over and over, and come up with results that could fit..but still so uncertain.


Anyone???

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Re: Domenico ZACCARDI/ZACCARDO from Muro Lucano (PZ)

Postby pink67 » 18 Jun 2009, 06:30

Hi Arist,

just for reference, is this 1900 census correct for your ancestors?

1900 United States Federal Census
about Dominico Zaccardi
Name: Dominico Zaccardi
[Dominico Janside]
Home in 1900: Poughkeepsie, Dutchess, New York
Age: 32
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1891
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Spouse's Name: Thressa
Marriage Year: 1894
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 6
Residence : Wappingers Falls Village, Dutchess, New York
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Dominico Zaccardi 32 head, born in IT, year of immigr. 1891, NA (naturalized)
Thressa Zaccardi 26 wife, born in IT (on July 1873), had 5 children among whom only 3 living, year of immigr. 1891
Nunzista Zaccardi 5 daughter, born in IL (right spell Nunziata)
Cheverde Zaccardi 3 son, born in NY
Antonia Zaccardi 9/12 son, born in NY

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Re: Domenico ZACCARDI/ZACCARDO from Muro Lucano (PZ)

Postby arist » 18 Jun 2009, 08:22

Hi Laura, Thanks..

This is the one record that would make the most sense, except for the fact that there are so many children. I'm almost certain there were only 3 children in the family, and Antonio would have been born in January 1900..

Also, he apparently moved the family back to Italy because he would have lost his Italian citizenship had he stayed in the US. Which would mean was never naturalized?

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Re: Domenico ZACCARDI/ZACCARDO from Muro Lucano (PZ)

Postby pink67 » 18 Jun 2009, 15:20

You're welcome Arist!

I believe the 1900 census is more than a simple coincidence... you told they were married in Illinois, in fact their first daughter on the census (Nunziata) is listed as born in Illinois...
Have you noticed Theresa stated she gave birth to 5 children while at the moment only three were living? Possible both Nunziata and the second son (spelling should have been Gerardo) died...

I don't know if you have this document:

from Ancestry.com:

U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925
about Rosa Zaccardi
Name: Rosa Zaccardi
Birth Date: 1 Jan 1902
Birth Place: New York City, New York
Residence: Muro Lucano, Potenza
Passport Issue Date: 12 Jul 1923
Father Name: Domenico Zaccardi
Father's Birth Location: Muro Lucano, Potenza
Father's Residence: Muro Lucano, Potenza
Passport Includes a Photo: Y
Source: Passport Applications, January 2, 1906 - March 31, 1925 (M1490)

In the passport she stated her father Domenico lived in NYC from 1900 to 1913 and at the moment of the issue of her passport (1923 in Naples at the U.S. Consulate in Italy) he was living in Italy.... while she has been living in Muro Lucano from 1904 to 1923...

page 1:
[img=http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/858/zaccardirosepassportpag.th.jpg]
page 2: (with photo)
[img=http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/858/zaccardirosepassportpag.th.jpg]

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Re: Domenico ZACCARDI/ZACCARDO from Muro Lucano (PZ)

Postby arist » 18 Jun 2009, 15:46

I'm going to do a search at the NYC archives for Gerardo's birth certificate to see if the mother is Maria Degregorio.

Also I should add that on Antonio's birth certificate (Jan 1900), it states that Maria only gave birth to one child before his birth. Possibly an error?

I do have a copy of Rosa's passport application...

I'm crossing my fingers this isn't their census. If Domenico was naturalized before Antonio's birth, I don't qualify for citizenship! :?

Thanks Laura..


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Re: Domenico ZACCARDI/ZACCARDO from Muro Lucano (PZ)

Postby pink67 » 18 Jun 2009, 15:52

Oh... :? I understand....
But I believe the census is right...
This is the third page of Rose Zaccardi's passport...
On the copy of her birth certificate you can see that her mother Theresa had three child before her birth (all three were living at that moment)...

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Re: Domenico ZACCARDI/ZACCARDO from Muro Lucano (PZ)

Postby arist » 18 Jun 2009, 16:05

Laura,

Are you sure? It looks like it says "number of children born to this mother including present birth"

and then "...now living"

assuming Nunziata and Gerardo we're alive at the time of Rosa's birth, Rosa would be the 4th. And even if one of them died before 1902, wouldn't it still be written on the record that there were 4? as it does give the option to put "now living" as it does on the census...


BTW..where did you find the third page?!

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Re: Domenico ZACCARDI/ZACCARDO from Muro Lucano (PZ)

Postby pink67 » 18 Jun 2009, 16:30

:oops: I apologize but I didn't read well the document (perhaps I need new glasses! :lol: and my english is not so well)...
I hope for you I found only people with the same names...
Maybe find the correct 1900 census could be very helpful for you.
But You told before that on Anthony's birth certificate the answer to the same question was different...
For the third page you have to click on "Next", sometimes passport applications should include very interesting documents.. I remember once I found a very nice letter from a brother to her sister who was calling her to home in Italy because their mother was very ill... ...
The 1900 census I posted shows the family living in Poughkeepsie, Dutchess, New York, is this detail correct?

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Re: Domenico ZACCARDI/ZACCARDO from Muro Lucano (PZ)

Postby arist » 18 Jun 2009, 16:44

Yes this is interesting. Almost all of my documents have conflicting information on them. For example, Domenico and Maria's marriage certificate from Illinois says they're 25 and 18 at the time, in 1893. So, quite difficult to really know which is correct. As they probably didn't know to read or write in english.

Poughkeepsie New York is apx. a 1 hour drive by car from New York City...

which is also interesting, because Antonio was born in New York City, as well as Rosa. If the census is correct, could mean they moved from Poughkeepsie back to NYC sometime between 1900 and 1902.

hmmm :?:

Thanks again for your time and help :)

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Re: Domenico ZACCARDI/ZACCARDO from Muro Lucano (PZ)

Postby pink67 » 18 Jun 2009, 16:57

You're welcome Arist and I love help on the forum...

I believe I found new clues... :roll:

I noticed that both Rose and Anthony at the moment of their second arrivals in the U.S. (1924 for Rose and 1923 for Anthony) stated they were joining their uncle Arcangelo Zaccardi...

Possible arrival manifest for Arcangelo on 1899?:

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0016

From Muro Lucano joining his brother Domenico in NY...address seems 28 Bayard?? Street.

I believe this should be his 1900 census:

1900 United States Federal Census
about Arinugilio Zaconando
Name: Arinugilio Zaconando
[Arcangelo Zeegando]
Home in 1900: Poughkeepsie, Dutchess, New York
Age: 16
Birth Date: Mar 1884
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1898
Relationship to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Marital Status: Single
Residence : Wappingers Falls Village, Dutchess, New York
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseppe Lum * 38
Maria Lum * 22
Antonia Lum * 2
Franka Lum * 0
Arinugilio Zaconando 16 boarder, born in IT, year of immigr. 1898

[img=http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/8065/zaccardoarcangelo1900.th.jpg]

He was living in Poughkeepsie too..... :!:
Do you believe he could be the right Arcangelo?

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Re: Domenico ZACCARDI/ZACCARDO from Muro Lucano (PZ)

Postby arist » 18 Jun 2009, 17:25

I'm not so sure...I suppose it's very possible.

I do however have various records for Angelo showing he was either born in 1883 or 1885. june or july 17th...

It seems all the number are off by a year.. so...it would make him a close match I suppose.

Bayard street, I did a search for in Poughkeepsie, and does not exist. However there is a Bayard street in NYC. so.... :?

Also, I was told by a relative that Domenico had to go back to Italy in order to keep his Italian citizenship, (I thought in 1904, the year which Antonio and Rosa went back. But on Rosa's passport it shows Domenico lived in NYC from 1900-1913 without interuption, confusing) If he was infact naturalized as a US citizen...wouldn't he have lost his Italian citizenship? I suppose he would still be able to go back to Italy to live the rest of his life either way yes?


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