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Tumminia's From Sicily/Palermo

Postby AMP0518 » 26 Jun 2009, 14:35

I know very little about my heritage other then Ross Tumminia came from Palermo by boat as my great grandfather. My Papa, John Tumminia was 1 of 7 from Brooklyn, NY. With little Family information its hard to trace any relatives other then my immediate Aunt and Uncles. Any ideas where to start? I dont have too much contact with my family at this time.
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Re: Tumminia's From Sicily/Palermo

Postby Biff83 » 26 Jun 2009, 14:58

Hello and Welcome to IG!

We'll set what we can do to help. Can you verify the following census?

Edit--Incorrect census
1930 census
Name: Rosalino Tumminia
Home in 1930: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
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Age: 37
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Giavana
Household Members: Name Age
Rosalino Tumminia 37, immigration 1920
Giavana (Giiovanna) Tumminia 36, immigration 1921
Viney Tumminia 14, immigration 1921
Salvatore Tumminia 10, immigration 1921
Rose Tumminia 8
Giavaneve (Giovanni) Tumminia 4
Jenny Tumminia 2

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Re: Tumminia's From Sicily/Palermo

Postby Biff83 » 26 Jun 2009, 15:10

Edit--Incorrect manifest

1920 ship manifest, line 26
Name: Rosolino Tumminia
Arrival Date: 6 Sep 1920
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1893
Age: 27
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Palermo, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South)
Ship Name: Belvedere
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Birth Location: City of Palermo
Nearest relative in Italy: wife Giovanna Richici, Via del Sole 22, Palermo
Destination: Brooklyn, New York to join father Vincenzo Tumminia at 26 Woodlawn St, Brooklyn

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Re: Tumminia's From Sicily/Palermo

Postby AMP0518 » 26 Jun 2009, 15:25

his full name was Rosario Guisseppe (joseph to america) Tumminia i believe. Married to Anna benn... i dont remember the last name, but thank you for the welcome.
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Re: Tumminia's From Sicily/Palermo

Postby AMP0518 » 26 Jun 2009, 15:45

let me correct my previous statement, John Michael Tumminia, born in August 30th, 1938. 1 of 4, my mistake, Sisters Rose, and Anna, Brother Paul who died ~1972.
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Re: Tumminia's From Sicily/Palermo

Postby terryt57 » 26 Jun 2009, 21:39

Adding to the geneology search for Rosario Joseph Tumminia. He was actually the first born of nine in the U.S. - born on 3rd ave in the bowery of NYC. He married Anna Spardillo who came from Italy when she was seven years old. They lived in a brownstone at 842, 40th street between 8th and 9th ave, in Brooklyn, NY. Anna passed away in 1976 of a series of strokes, Rosario then moved to Florida where he passed somewhere around 1983-84.
This ring a bell for anyone?
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Re: Tumminia's From Sicily/Palermo

Postby vj » 26 Jun 2009, 21:59

AMP0518 wrote:... With little Family information its hard to trace any relatives other then my immediate Aunt and Uncles. Any ideas where to start? ...


Hello!
Here are some possible records from ancestry. com (subscription)
to get you started
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Florida Death Index
Name: Rosario Joseph Tumminia
Death Date: 26 Dec 1986
County of Death: Palm Beach
State of Death: Florida
Age at Death: 81
Race: White
Birth Date: 30 Aug 1905
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SSDI
Name: Rosario Tumminia
SSN: 102-09-xxxx
Last Residence: 33458 Jupiter, Palm Beach, Florida
Born: 31 Aug 1905
Died: Dec 1986
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)
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NYC Marriage
Family Name Given Name Marriage Date Certificate Number County

Tumminia Rosario Nov 11 1933 16209 Kings
Sbardella Anna Nov 11 1933 16209 Kings

Ordering NYC Vital Records
New York City Archives

from NYC records by the Italian Genealogical Group
http://www.italiangen.org/
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Rosario Joseph Tumminia
and possible parents Paolo & Rosa

possible 1942 WWII Draft Registration Card

Name: Paul Tumminia
Birth Date: 13 Jan 1881
Birth Place: Palermo, Italy
Residence:
552 46th Street
Kings, New York
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possible 1930 census

Home in 1930:
1148 49th Street
Brooklyn, Kings, New York

Paul Tumminia 50
Rose Tumminia 45
Louis Tumminia 18
Frank Tumminia 16
Vincent Tumminia 15
Concetta Tumminia 12
Augustina Tumminia 10
Carmello Tumminia 9 8/12
Paul Tumminia 6
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possible 1920 census

Home in 1920:
286 20th Street
Brooklyn Assembly District 7, Kings, New York

Paul Tumminia
39
Rosa Tumminia 37
Rosana (Rosario) Tumminia 15
John Tumminia 10
Louia Tumminia 9
Frank Tumminia 6
Vincenta Tumminia 5
Conchita Tumminia 3 3/12
August Tumminia 8/12
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possible 1910 census

Home in 1910:
37 First Street
Manhattan Ward 17, New York, New York

Paul Tomevia 29
Rose Tomevia 26
Rosario Tomevia 5
Vinsengena Tomevia 2
Giovanni Tomevia 0/12
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With these possible clues, these links may help you locate New York City records:

Dr Steve Morse One Step Search Pages for New York
NY Naturalization
NYC Birth Records 1891-1902 (requires ancestry. com subscription)
NYC Groom Index 1864-1936
NYC Bride Index ????-1937
NYC Death Records 1891-1948

Ordering NYC Vital Records
New York City Archives
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Ellis Island: Ships to New York:
http://stevemorse.org/ellis2/ellisgold.html
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Re: Tumminia's From Sicily/Palermo

Postby terryt57 » 27 Jun 2009, 02:27

Well done - thank you so much. This is my grandfather's family. Hopefully I will be able to follow up on the info you sent.
Regards,
Theresa Tumminia
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Re: Tumminia's From Sicily/Palermo

Postby AMP0518 » 30 Jun 2009, 14:54

Thank you very much Valarie, as you can see, my Mother (terryt57) and i are very interested. I appreciate the assistance. we'll keep digging and post up on what we find out if we need any more help. Again, thank you.
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Re: Tumminia's From Sicily/Palermo

Postby vj » 30 Jun 2009, 15:58

I'm so glad we could help :D !
Please let us know if you get stuck.
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Re: Tumminia's From Sicily/Palermo

Postby terryt57 » 01 Jul 2009, 11:05

Hello Valarie,
Are you able to find out any information on Anna Sbardella? She had a very sad life coming to America. I know her american history but nothing about the town where she came from. I would think she came from Italy around 1923.
Thanks in advance.
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Re: Tumminia's From Sicily/Palermo

Postby Biff83 » 01 Jul 2009, 12:43

Possible 1930 census
Name: Anna L Sbardella
Home in 1930: Brooklyn, Kings, New York
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Age: 18
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1912
Relation to Head of House: Daughter
Parent's Name: Jolmrt
Household Members: Name Age
Jolmrt Sbardella 47
Natalie Sbardella 21
Anna L Sbardella 18
Michael A Sbardella 16

Possible 1916 manifest, line 14
Name: Leanarda Sbardella
Arrival Date: 17 Dec 1916
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1911
Age: 5
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Giuseppe Verdi
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Last residence and place of birth: looks like Candela, province of Foggia
Destination: Brooklyn NY to join father John Sbardella
Travelling with mother Caterina Ippolito and siblings, Natalina and Michele

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Re: Tumminia's From Sicily/Palermo

Postby Biff83 » 01 Jul 2009, 13:31

Possible 1920 census
Name: Anna Sbardella
Home in 1920: Holy Rosary Villa, West Hoboken Ward 2, Hudson, New Jersey
Age: 7 years, orphan?
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1913
Birthplace: Italy
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Female
Year of Immigration: 1916

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Re: Tumminia's From Sicily/Palermo

Postby Biff83 » 01 Jul 2009, 13:32

dupe post.
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Re: Tumminia's From Sicily/Palermo

Postby terryt57 » 01 Jul 2009, 14:11

thank you Biff - we know that my grandmother became an orphan with her brother when her father and sister died during immigration - one on the boat, the other within a few months. We did not know where she was originally from in Italy nor what orphanage she was in.
It's a start - we will try to find out more.
Thanks again,
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