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Looking for brother of my Grandmother

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Hi there,

my name is vincenzo spinelli and i live in rome.
i'm looking for a remote relative of mine (the brother of my
grandmother),
and the last known address is "36 sander street, Saint Johnsville, NY 13452" (in 1958).
his name is/was giovanni spinelli and this is the state of the art i know about him:

spinelli giovanni, born on january 17, 1894 in gioia del colle (south of italy) and son of vito lorenzo spinelli,
came to new york on september 30, 1913 (according to the ellis island registers).
he was married with felicetta spinelli (we do not know her surname before marriage)
and had a daughter mary/maria spinelli in (about) 1932.
felicetta, born on may 1897, died on december 1934 (i have a photo of her tomb).
on page http://www.stjohnsville.com/Cemetery5S.htm, i've found this record:
Spinelli, Felesceta; Burial Date-12-11-34; Birth and Death Year-1897-1934; Section-15; Lot #-YK.

he married again with teresa (her surname is unknown), but she died on may 8th 1958 (known from a letter of his).
there is no records about her on the site (the burial date is after 1950)

i hope that these informations are enough to find him or his relatives (daughter or grandsons...).

Thanks,

vincenzo spinelli.
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Hello Vincenzo!

Here's a possible obituary for Giovanni

from the newspaper:
Amsterdam Recorder, Friday, 23 June, 1972
ST. JOHNSVILLE
John Spinelli. 78, formerly of 9 Sanders St., St. Johnsville, died June 15 at the home of his daughter, Mrs. Gabriel (Mary) Iacobucci. Scituate, Mass.

Spinelli was born in Bari, Italy, and was educated there before coming to the United States and the New York metropolitan area at the age of 19.

He was employed by the New York Central Railroad for 34 years, and was a member of the Railroad Maintenance of Way union.

He retired in 1958.

Spinelli resided in St. Johnsville 40 years, and had been with his daughter for four years.

He is survived by his daughter and four grandchildren.

The funeral was in St. Mary of Nativity Church at Scituate Center.
from this website using search 'Spinelli Johnsville'
http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html

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Ciao Vincenzo,
il tuo Giovanni deve essersi sposato dopo il 1920, vedi il censimento del 1920:

1920 United States Federal Census
about John Spinelli
Name: John Spinelli
Home in 1920: St Johnsville, Montgomery, New York
Age: 26 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1894
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Single
Race: White
Sex: Male
Year of Immigration: 1914
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Image: 1224
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Household Members: Name Age
Carmine Pezzi 35
Mary Pezzi 36
Dargiza Pezzi 9
Dominiom Pezzi 7
Rosewith Pezzi 5
Rosie Pezzi 3 0/12
Joe Pezzi 1 0/12
John Spinelli 26
Pietro Montini 56


era un abbordante presso la famiglia Pezzi..
e se non vado errata nel 1930 era ancora single, perchè non è menzionata la moglie, lui è ancora single, anche se si fa chiamare James; il cognome errato è solo un errore di trascrizione di chi ha copiato i censimenti e li ha messi on line... è un errore normale anche per l'anno di nascita:

1930 United States Federal Census
about James Spineth
Name: James Spineth
Home in 1930: St Johnsville, Montgomery, New York
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Age: 31
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1899
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Boarder
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Amy Castrucci 30
Mary Castrucci 22
Joseph Castrucci 7
Marguerit Castrucci 4 4/12
Antonio Castrucci 64
Elsi Castrucci 61
Angelo Politte 46
James Spineth 31


ecco il listamento per la prima guerra mondiale:


World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Giovanni Sponelli
Name: Giovanni Sponelli
County: Montgomery
State: New York
Birthplace: Italy
Birth Date: 19 Jan 1894
Race: Caucasian (White)
Roll: 1753846
DraftBoard: 0
Age:

Occupation:

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vedo se trovo altro, ciao,
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Hi Vincenzo and suanj :D !
I can't find Gabriel or Mary Spinelli Iacobucci in a death index or with a current address.
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True Valarie, me too...!
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I believe that under Jacobucci spelling we can find Gabriel and Mary...

I found a address of 1993:
Name: Gabriel A Jacobucci
Birth Date: Oct 1929
Address: 666 Chief Justice Cushing WY, Scituate, Massachusetts 02066-0701 (1993)
and ditto until 2002...
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suanj wrote:I believe that under Jacobucci spelling we can find Gabriel and Mary...

I found a address of 1993:
Name: Gabriel A Jacobucci
Birth Date: Oct 1929
Address: 666 Chief Justice Cushing WY, Scituate, Massachusetts 02066-0701 (1993)
and ditto until 2002...
WOW!
suanj that's terrific :D !

I checked the white pages, it appears that the address is still current:

Gabriel A Jacobucci
668 Chief Justice Cushing Hwy
Scituate, MA 02066-3217

Age: 65+

I'll PM Vincenzo the phone number

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great Valarie, so the search is very helpful for Vincenzo... he can phoning... hugs,
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great!!!

thank you so much for all these info (beyond my best hope!)
and the time you spent for me.
all the best,
vincenzo spinelli.
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Caio, Vincenzo Spinelli.
I can help you with some information about Giovanni Spinelli. I knew his wife, Theresa, and his daughter, Mary.
Theresa's maiden name was Olivieri. She came from Maenza, Italy, where my grandmother also was born. She was first married to Umberto "Roberto" Sanguine. I believe it may have been an arranged marriage as Umberto's wife had died and left 6 children to be cared for. After Umberto died, she married Giovanni Spinelli to take care of his daughter, Mary.
Theresa lived next door to my grandparents for many years. I recall Mary Spinelli staying at Theresa's home. I would play with her.

Giovanni had also been married to Martella "Martha" Marcucci on 31 Mar 1939, after Felicita's death. She was much older than him. When she died he married Theresa. After Theresa's death, he moved to live with his daughter, Mary, where he passed away after 4 years.

Mary Spinelli was born 1 Mar 1932, died 3 Sep 2010 in Scituate, Massachusetts. She was married to Gabriel Jacobucci and had 4 children, Mary Ellen, Susan, Gabriel and Steven.

I hope this is helpful. Sorry that I missed your post earlier.
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