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Ghiloni

Postby Suni » 10 Jul 2009, 15:35

My great grandfather was Sabitino Ghiloni, he married an Annie Magri.

Sabitino, known as Samuel came from Lucca, Italy?

My grandmother's obit listed her as having sisters: Mrs. Mary Bounchristiani, Mrs. Jennie Cecchini and Mrs. Teresa Mazzoni; also a brother Giuseppe.

I believe Teresa's husband's name was Cesare?

I am hoping someone can help me connect the dots.

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Re: Ghiloni

Postby pink67 » 10 Jul 2009, 16:02

Hi Suni,

from ancestry.com here is the 1930 census for Samuel... it seems his sister Teresa Mazzoni was living with them...

1930 United States Federal Census
about Samuel Ghiloni
Name: Samuel Ghiloni
Home in 1930: Pawtucket, Providence, Rhode Island
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Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Ghiloni 52 head, born in IT, year of immigr. 1899
Annie Ghiloni 49 wife, born in IT, year of immigr. 1899
Harry A Ghiloni 16
Rena Ghiloni 10
Eugene F Ghiloni 8
Teresa Mazzoni 73 sister, widow, born in IT, year of immigr. 1908
Image:

[img=http://img520.imageshack.us/img520/2941/ghiloni1930census.th.jpg]

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Re: Ghiloni

Postby pink67 » 10 Jul 2009, 17:32

Suni wrote:I believe Teresa's husband's name was Cesare


You're right! :D

1920 United States Federal Census
about Cesare Mazzoni
Name: Cesare Mazzoni
Home in 1920: Pawtucket Ward 3, Providence, Rhode Island
Age: 72 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Theresa
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1898
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 130
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Cesare Mazzoni 72 head, born in IT, year of immigr. 1898
Theresa Mazzoni 60 wife, born in IT. year of immigr. 1908

[img=http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/1913/mazzonicesare1920.th.jpg]


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Edit to add:

Cesare was born in Barga (Lucca Province - Tuscany Region), here is a 1921 passport application for him and his wife Teresa :!: :

U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925
about Cesare Mazzoni
Name: Cesare Mazzoni
Birth Date: 5 Aug 1847
Birth Place: Barga, Italy
Residence: Pawt, RI
Passport Issue Date: 7 Jun 1921
Father Name: Cristofaro
Father's Birth Location: Italy
Father's Residence: Deceased
Passport Includes a Photo: Y
Source: Passport Applications, January 2, 1906 - March 31, 1925 (M1490)

page 1:
[img=http://img510.imageshack.us/img510/6923/mazzonipasspage1.th.jpg]

page 2 with photos:
[img=http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/5329/mazzonipasspage2.th.jpg]

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Re: Ghiloni

Postby Suni » 10 Jul 2009, 21:47

Thank you! I do have the 1930 Census copy for Samuel. His son Harry was my grandfather. Eugene F, was my uncle Fred. He never went by Eugene.

I am greatful for the passport info. Teresa's picture looks familiar, I'm hoping I can match with an old photo I have with no name or description.

My goal is to find accurate Birth dates and their parents names. This is a great start.

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Re: Ghiloni

Postby PeterTimber » 10 Jul 2009, 23:54

Your goal of birth dates and parents names can be located at the town of origin. Go to www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwisdom/it ... tters.html

You can find the correct address for the Ufio di Stato civile if you go to www.nonsolocap.it and type in the townname on top, xclick CERCA and when the zip code, town name, Province initials and region comes up click on town name and website for town will pop up. scroll down to municipio for the addres to send the form letter.....to the right is a www for the town's tourist info. =Peter=
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Re: Ghiloni

Postby pink67 » 11 Jul 2009, 10:40

You're welcome Suni... :D
from the military Enlistment for the First World War, the birth date for Sabatino (no place listed):

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Sabatino Ghiloni
Name: Sabatino Ghiloni
City: Pawtucket
County: Providence
State: Rhode Island
Birth Date: 13 Jan 1877
Race: White
Roll: 1852400
DraftBoard: 2

image:[img=http://img39.imageshack.us/img39/3866/ghilonisabatinowwi.th.jpg]

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Re: Ghiloni

Postby pink67 » 11 Jul 2009, 12:29

Is it possible that Jennie Cecchini's real first name was Gioconda?
This is a passport application for Amedeo Cecchini, his wife Gioconda and daughter Lena (issued on sept. 1919) living in Pawtucket :

U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925
about Amedes Cecchini
Name: Amedes Cecchini
Birth Date: 23 May 1879
Birth Place: Barga, Italy
Residence: Pawtucket, RI
Passport Issue Date: 27 Sep 1919
Father Name: Gioranni Cecchini
Father's Birth Location: Italy
Father's Residence: Pawtricket
Passport Includes a Photo: Y
Source: Passport Applications, January 2, 1906 - March 31, 1925 (M1490)

page 1:
[img=http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5449/cecchiniamedeopassporta.th.jpg]

page 2 with photo
[img=http://img528.imageshack.us/img528/5449/cecchiniamedeopassporta.th.jpg]

From Ellisisland.org the 1921 arrival manifest
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0002

and 1906 arrival for Gioconda Magri, (single) from Barga (Lucca Province) to Pawtucket, RI joining her bother Giuseppe... she stated she was in the U.S before...

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0004

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Re: Ghiloni

Postby pink67 » 11 Jul 2009, 12:45

Suni wrote:My grandmother's obit listed her as having sisters: Mrs. Mary Bounchristiani, Mrs. Jennie Cecchini and Mrs. Teresa Mazzoni; also a brother Giuseppe


Correct spell of the lastname was Buoncristiani...
From http://www.ellisisland.org/ here is a 1911 arrival from a trip to Italy for Mary and her son Thomas :

page 1:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0007

she stated she was leaving in Italy (Lucca) her mother Filomena Margherita :!:

Page 2:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0007

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Re: Ghiloni

Postby pink67 » 11 Jul 2009, 13:21

Possible Mary Buoncristiani's husband was Pietro/Peter Buoncristiani, he was born in Orentano, today an hamlet of the town Castelfranco di Sotto (Pisa Province - Tuscany region)
http://italia.indettaglio.it/eng/toscan ... ntano.html

Here is a 1920 passport application :

U.S. Passport Applications, 1795-1925
about Pietro Buoncristiani
Name: Pietro Buoncristiani
Birth Date: 18 Mar 1870
Birth Place: Orentano, S Croce, Lull'arno
Residence: Pawtucket, RI
Passport Issue Date: 28 Oct 1920
Father Name: Faustino Buoncristiani
Father's Birth Location: S Croce, Lull'arno
Father's Residence: S Croce, Lull'arno
Passport Includes a Photo: Y
Source: Passport Applications, January 2, 1906 - March 31, 1925 (M1490)

page 1:
[img=http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/3075/buoncristianipage1.th.jpg]

page 2:
[img=http://img9.imageshack.us/img9/9930/buoncristianipeterpassp.th.jpg]

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Edit to add details:

I believe the Magri's were born in Barga (Lucca Province)
Do you believe this 1909 arrival manifest could have been for a return from a trip to Italy for Giuseppe Magri and his wife teresa?? He stated he was born in Barga - Lucca and was joining his sisters Gioconda and Teresa in Pawtucket RI. :!:

Page 1:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0010
Page 2:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0010

If the arrival manifest is correct he stated his father (Antonio?) was living in Filecchio, an Hamlet of the town of Barga

http://italia.indettaglio.it/eng/toscan ... cchio.html

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Re: Ghiloni

Postby Suni » 11 Jul 2009, 23:55

Pink

Thank you! You have most helpful and I am smiling from all the new found info.


"she stated she was leaving in Italy (Lucca) her mother Filomena Margherita Exclamation"

According to my info Annie's parents were 'possibly' Anthony and Philomena Magri. This info was listed by the informant Joseph Damiani. How does this all fit together with
Can I assume Filomena and Antonio were the correct spellings of the parents names? In the USA they changed spelling to match the phonetics.

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Re: Ghiloni

Postby Suni » 12 Jul 2009, 00:02

Sorry... What I was trying to post was "Who is Joseph Damiani? The Pawtucket, Rhode Island, USA archives has Joesph listed as 'possible Annie fathers? I believe that Anthony and Filomena are! PLease correct me if I am wrong.


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Re: Ghiloni

Postby pink67 » 12 Jul 2009, 06:18

Pink67 wrote:she stated she was leaving in Italy (Lucca) her mother Filomena Margherita


Pink67 wrote:If the arrival manifest is correct he stated his father (Antonio?) was living in Filecchio, an Hamlet of the town of Barga


Well... :D no doubt these persons are your ancestors...

Of course their names had been "americanized" but Anthony is for Antonio and Philomena is for Filomena (possible Margherita was her middle name)...
just to do a little resume, the Magri's we found for sure were:

Teresa (married Mazzoni) born around 1860
Gioconda (married Cecchini) born around 1869
Mary (married Buoncristiani) born around 1871
Giuseppe born around 1870

Anna (married Ghiloni) born around 1882 :? Don't you think it's a little big the difference between her birth and the others Magri??

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Re: Ghiloni

Postby pink67 » 12 Jul 2009, 07:16

Just for references the Ghiloni's censuses:

1910 United States Federal Census
about Samuel Ghiloni
Name: Samuel Ghiloni
Age in 1910: 33
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1877
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's Name: Annie
Home in 1910: Pawtucket Ward 2, Providence, Rhode Island
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1895
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Ghiloni 33
Annie Ghiloni 28
Iola Ghiloni 8
Leo Frato 27

[img=http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/8619/ghilonisamuel1910.th.jpg]

1920 United States Federal Census
about Samuel Gaitoni
Name: Samuel Gaitoni
[Samuel Ghiloni]
Home in 1920: Pawtucket Ward 4, Providence, Rhode Island
Age: 44 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1900
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 415
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Gaitoni 44
Annie Ghitoni 39
Iolia Ghitoni 18
Harry Ghitoni 6
Rena Ghitoni 1/12
Pedele Ghitoni 49
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[img=http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/6667/ghilonisamuenl1920.th.jpg]

1930 United States Federal Census
about Samuel Ghiloni
Name: Samuel Ghiloni
Home in 1930: Pawtucket, Providence, Rhode Island
View Map
Age: 52
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Annie
Race: White
Occupation:
Education:
Military service:
Rent/home value:
Age at first marriage:
Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
[b]Samuel Ghiloni
52 head, born in IT, year of immigr. 1899
Annie Ghiloni 49 wife, born in IT, year of immigr. 1899
Harry A Ghiloni 16
Rena Ghiloni 10
Eugene F Ghiloni 8
Teresa Mazzoni 73 sister, widow, born in IT, year of immigr. 1908
Image:
http://img520.imageshack.us/i/ghiloni1930census.jpg/

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Re: Ghiloni

Postby pink67 » 12 Jul 2009, 09:00

Suni, I noticed that in the 1920 census Samuel had his brother Fedele Ghiloni living with him...
I searched something about him and found out that his wife was Annunziata Magri:

This is the 1901 arrival manifest for Annunziata Ghiloni (age 26) and her child Giovanni (age 5) and Leonello (age 4).. they were coming from Barga and going to Pawtucket to reach their husband/father Fidele Ghiloni:

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0018

please note that they were travelling also with Marianna Magri (a few lines above) , single age 21, from Barga. She stated she was in the U.S before, from 1898 to 1900 :!:
I believe this girl should have been "your" Anne Ghiloni (Samuel's wife)

This is because I found a later arrival manifest (1920) for Annunziata Ghiloni (Fedele'wife), she was widow, was travelling with her daughter Nella (possible the Leonello on the 1901 arrival manifest was a female). She was coming from Barga were she was leaving her sister Gioconda Cecchini :D :!: and was joining her son Giovanni in Chicago and stated she was in the U.S. before (to 1903) in Pawtucket RI:

page 1:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0005

page 2:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0005

So, possible Annunziata was another Magris and the real name for Samuel's wife was Marianna Magri(shortened in Anne?)

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Re: Ghiloni

Postby pink67 » 12 Jul 2009, 11:44

:D Suni :D

I'm right!!!
From http://www.ellisisland.org/ this is a 1907 arrival manifest for Marianna Magri (age 27), travelling with her daughter Jole (age 5), from Barga (leaving there her father Antonio :!: ) and joining her husband Gheloni Sabatini (mispelled) in Pawtucket RI (she stated she was in the U.S before, from 1900 to 1904?)... Note their names arre crossed out, so they didn't travel on that ship, there must be another subsequent arrival manifest:

page 1:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0028

page 2:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0028

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