Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby pink67 » 26 Jul 2009, 12:29

Hi Adriana,

From Valarie's :D manifests found:

vj wrote:http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224 ... t/1914.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224 ... 191401.jpg

29 Jul 1914 SS San Guglielmo, Naples to NY
line 7

Crescenzo Palombo 24 (abt 1890)
- married
- last residence Villa Latina
- in Villa Latina, wife Leonarda Cornacchia
- destination Detroit, MI
- in Detroit 1910-1913
- joining brother Francesco
- born in Villa Latina


Francesco Palombo's first arrival in the U.S. on May 1913, joining his brother Palombo Crex. (for Crescenzo?) in Detroit (709 Riopelle Street), leaving his father Nunziato in Villa Latina. Place of birth Villa Latina.
Aprox. year of birth 1895

page 1:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0021

page 2:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0021

Laura

Edit to add:

I found an interesting 1891 arrival manifest.. it's about a Nunziate Palombo (age 37) travelling with some Panetta (Ferdinando, Francesco and another I can't recognize ), going to Phila. They were listed as Russian 8O but the handwritten is pretty clear and their lastname and first names seem italian... :?

Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1945
about Nunziate Palanbe
Name: Nunziate Palanbe
Arrival Date: 15 Apr 1891
Age: 37 Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: British Princess
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Microfilm Roll Number: T840_14

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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby vj » 26 Jul 2009, 13:26

Hi Crescenzo was born in Phildelphia, PA , 11 November 1890


Hi!
Do you have Crescenzo's birth record?
If the only record is his death certificate, his birth location may be incorrect.
Another possibility may be his parents were in Phila & returned to Italy.
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Laura,
What terrific finds!
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It appears that both the Palombo and Valente family's maintained their homes in Italy while the husbands & sons traveled back and forth to the US for work. Perhaps the economy was difficult in their towns?
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby pink67 » 26 Jul 2009, 13:43

Ciao Val! :D

I agree with you... maybe the informant on the death certificate (Joseph Palombo) stated a wrong birth place for Crescenzo. :?

However Crescenzo's brother Francesco was born in Villa Latina aprox. on 1895, and Angela (sister) on 1886 in Villa Latina too...
I searched also a possible arrival manifest for Benedetta Panetta (Nunziato's wife) with no luck....
This makes me think that Crescenzo too was born in Italy as he stated several times at the moment of his arrivals in the U.S.

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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby adriana295 » 26 Jul 2009, 20:17

pink67 wrote:Ciao Val! :D

I agree with you... maybe the informant on the death certificate (Joseph Palombo) stated a wrong birth place for Crescenzo. :?

However Crescenzo's brother Francesco was born in Villa Latina aprox. on 1895, and Angela (sister) on 1886 in Villa Latina too...
I searched also a possible arrival manifest for Benedetta Panetta (Nunziato's wife) with no luck....
This makes me think that Crescenzo too was born in Italy as he stated several times at the moment of his arrivals in the U.S.

Happy Sunday!
Laura


This is really interesting as my uncle has Crescenzos birth certificate which says Phili, PA. I will email my uncle to double check but it was a pretty known fact that he was born in PA.

Yes my g-grandmothers stayed in Italy while the husbands worked on the boats to go back and forth! I know one g-grandmother didn't want to move to America. They were from a farming village which even now its common knowledge a majority of the village men left to find work elsewhere.
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby adriana295 » 27 Jul 2009, 11:31

I spoke to my mum and his passport definetly says born in Phili, PA. All we can think is they didnt assume this when he arrived on the boat and simply wrote he was born in Italy as that is where he was coming from.... I'm trying to get hold of my uncle as he has my g-grandfathers passport.

Francesco was Crescenzos Brother!
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby adriana295 » 27 Jul 2009, 12:07

pink67 wrote:Hi Adriana,

From Valarie's :D manifests found:

vj wrote:http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224 ... t/1914.jpg
http://i105.photobucket.com/albums/m224 ... 191401.jpg

29 Jul 1914 SS San Guglielmo, Naples to NY
line 7

Crescenzo Palombo 24 (abt 1890)
- married
- last residence Villa Latina
- in Villa Latina, wife Leonarda Cornacchia
- destination Detroit, MI
- in Detroit 1910-1913
- joining brother Francesco
- born in Villa Latina


Francesco Palombo's first arrival in the U.S. on May 1913, joining his brother Palombo Crex. (for Crescenzo?) in Detroit (709 Riopelle Street), leaving his father Nunziato in Villa Latina. Place of birth Villa Latina.
Aprox. year of birth 1895

page 1:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0021

page 2:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0021

Laura

Edit to add:

I found an interesting 1891 arrival manifest.. it's about a Nunziate Palombo (age 37) travelling with some Panetta (Ferdinando, Francesco and another I can't recognize ), going to Phila. They were listed as Russian 8O but the handwritten is pretty clear and their lastname and first names seem italian... :?

Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1945
about Nunziate Palanbe
Name: Nunziate Palanbe
Arrival Date: 15 Apr 1891
Age: 37 Years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1854
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Liverpool, England
Ship Name: British Princess
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Microfilm Roll Number: T840_14

[img=http://img189.imageshack.us/img189/1764/palombonunziato1891arri.th.jpg]


This is interesting as Panetta is another name from my familys village and his "inlaws" so to speak were Panettas, his wife was Benadetta Panetta. The other name is Felica ...

*update*
Just spoke to my uncle and he confirmed...

Filomena was his sister and Francesco was his brother.

and now my mum remembers their nicknames :|
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby adriana295 » 27 Jul 2009, 12:46

from Ellis Island Searches a Giussepe Valente was the brother of Antonio Valente. From looking at addresses it seems my 2 g-grandfathers were living in the same building in Detroit. I'm assuming he called himself Joseph as I know a lot of them "americanized" their names when living there....
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby Italysearcher » 27 Jul 2009, 17:00

Crescenzo came back to Villa Latina to marry. I saw the certificate today when I was in Villa Latina. It says he was born in Philadelphia.
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby adriana295 » 27 Jul 2009, 17:04

Oh you are brilliant Italysearcher. Can you tell me how I can get a copy of that and birth certificates etc? I'm not back in VL until July 2010.

I'm assuming having Villa Latina written as his place of birth is either ignorance on his arrival or lack of communication.
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby Italysearcher » 27 Jul 2009, 19:24

You can write to the town and request it. They are not big on research though so I don't know how long they will take.
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby adriana295 » 27 Jul 2009, 19:31

considering it took a year for me to get a police check from FR, I wont expect it too soon! Lol thankyou
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby adriana295 » 29 Jul 2009, 22:30

I got a reply from Mt Olivet and the very nice lady helping me cant find Crescenzos grave ... there seems to be no record.
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby francop » 12 Sep 2009, 21:18

I have lot of information on francesco Alberto Palombo, Crescenzos brother.
Also have photos.
Francesco was my grandfather and is buried in Villa Latina.
His wife Emilia, from a very large Gargaro family , also from Villa Latina is buried in Alexandria, Scotland. Will post lots of info if anyone would find it interesting.
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby milesbrown » 14 May 2010, 09:23

Post contained errors, felt I had to delete it :)
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Re: Searching Palombo/Valente from Detroit, MI

Postby carole37 » 10 Aug 2010, 14:31

In our family tree there is a PASQUALE VALENTE born Jan 18, 1876
died June 21, 1966
He was married to Loreta Rossi born March 18, 1879.
they had 7 children---Antonio, Luigi, Pietro, Luciano, Felice, Mary Civita, and Loreto.
If you think any of this fits your family I have birthdates for some of the children. Our family lived in Detroit. I probably cannot answer details about the people. My aunt went to Villa Latina and Atina and got our family history.
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