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Gioscio & Montani families

Postby robb_johnson » 05 Aug 2009, 00:14

Can anyone help me find information on my gg grandparents Giovanni Gioscio (b: May 8, 1865 d: 1927) & Mary Montani (b: January 3, 1870 d: 1958). They immigrated to the US from the towns of their birth, Calvello & Laurenzana (Potenza Province).

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Re: Gioscio & Montani families

Postby misbris » 05 Aug 2009, 02:33

Hi and welcome to the forum, :lol:

Are you looking for Italian or American records? Can you give us an idea of what information you already have (ship's manifests, census records, etc)?

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Postby robb_johnson » 05 Aug 2009, 19:01

According to the 1930 US census Mary (Maria G. Montani) Gioscio immigrated to the US in 1897. But according to the Indiana Historical Society (http://www.indianahistory.org/library/m ... l#Italians) the family immigrated in 1878. Since I've been at a dead-end for years, I'm looking for any relevant American or especially Italian records.
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Postby PeterTimber » 05 Aug 2009, 19:57

Since you know their birthdate or birth year and fullnames why not write for their long form birth records in calvello and Laurenzana?? Ask for their
"estratto di nascita". Go to www.nonsolocap.it and put in town name,clickcerca and when town names shows up with zip code click on the name go down to MUNICIPIO address for UFFICIO DI STATO CIVILE at that address. Its free of charge.

Go to www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwisdom.it ... tters.html for form letters in Italian language. =Peter=
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Re: Gioscio & Montani families

Postby suanj » 05 Aug 2009, 19:58

in 1900 census, imm. year seeming 1889 for Giovanni; Maria in 1877:

1900 United States Federal Census
about John Gioscio
Name: John Gioscio
[Josep Pioscio]
Home in 1900: Center, Marion, Indiana
Age: 35
Birth Date: May 1865
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1889
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Spouse's Name: Marie
Marriage Year: 1894
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 6
Residence : Indianapolis City, Marion, Indiana
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Gioscio 35
Marie Gioscio 30
Marie J Gioscio 5
Florencina Gioscio 4
Marcellino Gioscio 2


1910 different imm. year( both in 1880)

1910 United States Federal Census
about Ginano Gioscia
Name: Ginano Gioscia
[Giovano Giossio]
Age in 1910: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1865
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's Name: Maria
Home in 1910: Indianapolis Ward 7, Marion, Indiana
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1880
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Ginano Gioscia 45
Maria Gioscia 39
Maria Gioscia 15
Florence Gioscia 13
Martello Gioscia 11
Fredonia Gioscia 9
Letrzia Gioscia 8
Annegols Gioscia 5
Clemantine Gioscia 3
Dominco Gioscia 2

1920: Giovanni imm. in 1889; Maria in 1877

1920 United States Federal Census
about Jevionna Geisert
Name: Jevionna Geisert
[Jeviona Gioscia]
Home in 1920: Indianapolis Ward 7, Marion, Indiana
Age: 54 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1866
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Mary
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1889
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 868
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jevionna Geisert 54
Mary Geisert 50
Mona Geisert 25
Florina Geisert 22
Moutella Geisert 20
Fred Geisert 18
Letcher Geisert 10
Rosa Geisert 15
Clementina Geisert 3
Dominico Geisert 11
Stella Geisert 9
Gottleib Pautte 27


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Re: Gioscio & Montani families

Postby suanj » 05 Aug 2009, 20:08

maybe this record could be abt your ancestor Giovanni Gioscio:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Giovanni Georeis
Name: Giovanni Georeis
Arrival Date: 9 Mar 1889
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1863
Age: 26
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Amsterdam, Netherlands
Destination: United States of America
Place of Origin: Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: P Caland
Search Ship Database: Search the P Caland in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York
Line: 6
Microfilm Serial: M237
Microfilm Roll: M237_530
List Number: 265
Port Arrival State: New York
Port Arrival Country: United States

the surname is transcribed wrong, but by ship's manifest seeming GIOSCIO
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Re: Gioscio & Montani families

Postby vj » 05 Aug 2009, 20:29

Hello!

Suanj :D
What a wonderful manifest find!

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Re: Gioscio & Montani families

Postby robb_johnson » 05 Aug 2009, 21:23

Wow! You are all AMAZING!

My gg grandfather was an artist, too bad the manifest has a dark spot over the occupation. The spelling errors must have been what caused the confusion during my searches. They did indeed live in Indianapolis, Indiana and the 1920 census shows what should be my great grandmother (Linda Stella Gioscio) who was born November 21, 1910. Not sure how the other names and ages came to be so different, but they have the "gist."
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Re: Gioscio & Montani families

Postby vj » 05 Aug 2009, 22:32

Hi!
Here's another copy of suanj's manifest find without using the enhanced viewer on ancestry. com:

http://img25.imageshack.us/img25/9991/1889g.jpg

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Re: Gioscio & Montani families

Postby robb_johnson » 05 Aug 2009, 23:32

Thank you all SO much! You have been most helpful!
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Re: Gioscio & Montani families

Postby robb_johnson » 05 Aug 2009, 23:52

Peter,

I tried to go to the link you sent regarding Italian form letters, but the page could not be found.

Thanks for trying!
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Re: Gioscio & Montani families

Postby wldspirit » 06 Aug 2009, 03:17

Corrected LINK
for form letters.
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Re: Gioscio & Montani families

Postby jimmyjack » 23 Jan 2011, 20:37

See book Indianapolis Italians published by Arcadia Press 2006.

Contact Marshal "Steve" Montani of indianapolis.

Contact John Gioscio of South Bend IN.

They are both your relatives.


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