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looking for info on schifano-cacciatore from palermo!!

Postby kyliekya » 13 Aug 2009, 14:04

Hi!! I am looking for more information on my great grandparents from Palermo, Sicily. Here is what I know: my great grandmother was Ida Schifano (possibly a nun in her younger years), married my great grandfather, Anthony Cacciatore (he was a shoe maker). Together they had 15 children one being my grandfather Joseph angelo cacciatore..some of the other children's names were charley, mary, jean, larry, sal, johnny, franky, lina, gracey and louis is the ones my aunt could remember. They moved to New York when my grandfather was a young boy (he was born Feb. 19, 1915) so it might have been in the 1920's. They were registered when they came to New york. Sal and Louis possibly changed their names to Hunter. I would greatly appreciate any help anyone could give on me finding out more information on Ida Schifano or Anthony Cacciatore, to see if I still have any living relatives. Thanks!!

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Re: looking for info on schifano-cacciatore from palermo!!

Postby vj » 13 Aug 2009, 16:13

Hello!
We'll all be happy to see what we can do to help
Here are possible US Draft Registration Cards from ancestry. com with the same birth date
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possible 1942 WWII Draft Registration Card
page 2

Anthony Cacciatore 61
190-17 33rd Ave, Flushing, Queens, NY
Born 3 Mar 1881 in Palma Montechiaro
(probably Palma di Montechiaro, Agrigento, Sicily)
Contact: Ida Cacciatore at same address
Employer: Gene Green 138 West 34th St NY
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possible 1918 WWI Draft Registration Card

Antonio Cacciatore 37
828 Silver Street, Racine, Racine, WI
Born 3 Mar 1881
Declarant (to be a citizen)
Born in Italy
Shoemaker for (?) Shoe Store at 1122 Villa Street
Nearest relative: Mrs Agata Cacciatore at same address

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Re: looking for info on schifano-cacciatore from palermo!!

Postby vj » 13 Aug 2009, 16:29

possible 1930 census

Home in 1930:
3313 190th Street, owns $11,000
Queens, Queens, New York

head Anthony Cacaatore 48, abt 1882 IT
- married age 24, abt 1906
- immig 1910, Na
- repairer, shoe
wife Ida Cacaatore 42, abt 1888 IT
- immig 1912, Na
son Angelo Cacaatore 24, abt 1906 IT
- immig 1912, Na
daughter Jean Cacaatore 22, abt 1908 IT
- immig 1912, Na
son Louis Cacaatore 17, abt 1913 WI
son Joseph Cacaatore 15, abt 1915 IT
- immig 1916, Na
son Sam Cacaatore 13, abt 1917 WI
son Charles Cacaatore 11, abt 1919 WI
son Frank Cacaatore 10, abt 1920 WI
daughter Lenna Cacaatore 7, abt 1923 Missouri
son John Cacaatore 5, abt 1925 NY
daughter Mary Cacaatore 3 1/12, abt 1926 NY
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possible 1920 census

Home in 1920:
828 Silver Street, owns
Racine Ward 5, Racine, Wisconsin

head Tony Caccinton 38, abt 1882 IT
- immig 1907(?), Pa (filed 1st papers)
wife Ida Caccinton 34, abt 1886 IT
- immig 1911, Al
son Angelo Caccinton 16, abt 1904 IT
- immig 1911, Al
daughter Venzilla Caccinton 14, abt 1906 IT
- immig 1911, Al
son Louis Caccinton 6, abt 1914 WI
son Joseph Caccinton 4 10/12, abt 1915 IT
- immig 1916, Al
son Salvaton Caccinton 2 8/12, abt 1917 WI
son Carmelo Caccinton 11/12, abt 1919 WI
boarder Vincent Degardio 28, abt 1892 IT

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Re: looking for info on schifano-cacciatore from palermo!!

Postby vj » 13 Aug 2009, 16:55

Possible Ship Manifests
from Ellis Island one-step search:
http://stevemorse.org/ellis2/ellisgold.html


10 Feb 1909 manifest
page 2

SS Hamburg, Naples to NY
line 22

Antonino Cacciatore 28 (abt 1881)
- married
- shoemaker
- last residence Girgenti Licata
- in Licata wife Agata Shifano
- destination Jersey City NJ
- joining brother-in-law Angelo Shifano at 325 Newark Ave
- born in Girgenti, Licata
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16 Jan 1911 manifest
page 2

SS Duca d'Aosta, Napoli to NY
lines 11-13

Agata Schifano 27
- last residence Girgenti Licata
- in Licata, father
- destination Racine WI
- joining husband Antonino Cacciatore at 1025 Lasalle Street
- born in Girgenti Licata

Angelo La Russa, child 1st marriage, 7 (abt 1903)

Vincenza Cacciatore, 4 (abt 1906)
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1 May 1915 manifest
page 2

SS Dante Alighieri, Palermo to NY
line 6

Antonino Cacciatore 34 (abt 1881)
- married
- shoemaker
- last residence Buffalo/Montechiaro
- in Palma Montechiaro wife Agata Schifano
- destination Buffalo, NY
- non-immigrant alien
- in Buffalo, NY 1909-1915
- joining brother-in-law Angelo Schifano at 158 Front Ave
- born in Girgenti, Palma Montechiaro
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1 Feb 1916 manifest
page 2

SS Caserta, Napoli to NY
lines 6-10

Agata Schifano Cacciatore 32, abt 1883
- possible naturalization notation
- last residence Palma Montechiaro
- in Palma Montechiaro, mother Carmela Cartieri
- destination Buffalo NY
- joining husband Antonino Cacciatore at 158 Front Ave
- in Racine WI 1910-1914
- born in Palma Montechiaro

Vincenza Cacciatore 8, abt 1907
- possible naturalization notation
- in Racine WI 1910-1914
- born in Licata

Angelo Cacciatore 5 mos, abt 1915
- born in Palma (Palma di Montechiaro, Agrigento, Sicily)

Luigi Cacciatore 2, abt 1913
- born in Racine WI

Angelo La Russa 12, abt 1903
- possible naturalization notation
- in Racine WI 1910-1914
- born in Licata

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Re: looking for info on schifano-cacciatore from palermo!!

Postby vj » 13 Aug 2009, 17:59

kyliekya wrote:... see if I still have any living relatives...


The Miami Herald
26 June 2003

CACCIATORE JOSEPH A.
Passed away June 21st
Born February 19, 1915 in Italy.
Came to the US and successfully pursued a career as a chef.
He was a wonderful father, grand and great grandfather and will be truly missed by a large and loving family.
Joe is survived by wife, Betty; children, Joe, Charles, Lynn, Ron, Robyn and Tammi;
brothers, Charles, Frank, John and sister, Mary.
Memorial service will be 3:00 Sat. 6/28 at Scarano Memorial Chapel, 9000 Pines Blvd, Pembroke Pines 954-438-8222.
In lieu of flowers donations may be made to Born Free Pet Shelter, PO Box 823, Key Biscayne, FL 33149.

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Re: looking for info on schifano-cacciatore from palermo!!

Postby kyliekya » 13 Aug 2009, 19:28

Thank you sooo much!! I knew my Papa very well (that's the joseph angelo cacciatore in the obituary)...but I know nothing of his family..thank you so much. You have brought tears of joy to my eyes. Now I can try to find more about my great grandmother and great grandfather. (And it's ironic they came in on the Dante Alighieri, the divine comedy is my favorite)..thanks again.

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Re: looking for info on schifano-cacciatore from palermo!!

Postby vj » 14 Aug 2009, 00:30

Hello :D !
I'm so glad we could find some records for you.
Please let us know if/when you're interested in researching your family in Italy.
We can help direct you on how get started.
And, thank you for letting us know we had the correct family.
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Re: looking for info on schifano-cacciatore from palermo!!

Postby kyliekya » 14 Aug 2009, 13:21

I do have another question..I'd hate to be a bother since you've helped me so much already...but after i got this info from you..I've strated doing some research myself and could not find anything on Carmela Cartieri as Agata Schifano's mother..but I did find a husband and wife named Calogero Schifano and a Francesca Pollaci (or Pollari) whom had 2 children Agata Schifano born on Jan 8, 1859 in Licata Agrigento, Italy as well as a son named Angelo Schifano born Feb 27, 1864...could this be my great grandmother Agata? In the info you got on Agata, it showed she had a brother named Angelo Schifano..what are the chances?
And how would I go about finding out my Grandpa Joseph Angelo Cacciatore's granparents names (his father was Anthony or Antonio Cacciatore)? Thanks so much!!

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Postby vj » 14 Aug 2009, 13:36

kyliekya wrote:I do have another question..I'd hate to be a bother ...


Oh my, ask away we have plenty of members here that can help!
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kyliekya wrote:but after i got this info from you..I've strated doing some research myself and could not find anything on Carmela Cartieri as Agata Schifano's mother..but I did find a husband and wife named Calogero Schifano and a Francesca Pollaci (or Pollari) whom had 2 children Agata Schifano born on Jan 8, 1859 in Licata Agrigento, Italy as well as a son named Angelo Schifano born Feb 27, 1864...could this be my great grandmother Agata? In the info you got on Agata, it showed she had a brother named Angelo Schifano..what are the chances?


It's possible that this is a relative of Agata's (she was born abt 1883)
If your family followed traditional naming patterns:

There has been a strong custom in Italy that determines how children are named:

- The first male is named after his paternal grandfather.
- The second male is named after his maternal grandfather.
- The first female is named after her paternal grandmother.
- The second female is named after her maternal grandmother.


from an article here: http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/News ... id=22.html
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kyliekya wrote:And how would I go about finding out my Grandpa Joseph Angelo Cacciatore's granparents names (his father was Anthony or Antonio Cacciatore)?


You can write to his comune

Italian form letter generator with instructions:
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... civile.asp

Address:

Comune di Palma di Montechiaro
Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Via Fiorentino 89
92020 Palma di Montechiaro AG
ITALY
http://www.nonsolocap.it/sicilia/22-pal ... ntechiaro/

Comune di Licata
Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Piazza Gondar 1
92027 Licata AG
ITALY
http://www.nonsolocap.it/sicilia/25-licata/

Website for finding comune addresses:
http://www.nonsolocap.it/
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You could also review your family’s records on microfilm.

Your nearest Family History Center has records for Licata on microfilm.
The cost is about $6 mo (rent), you’ll need to go to the center to order & view them.

Family History Library Catalog:
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Library ... t_fhlc.asp

film notes for Palma di Montechiaro

Topic:
Italy, Agrigento, Palma di Montechiaro - Civil registration
Titles:
Registri dello stato civile, 1821-1910 Palma di Montechiaro (Agrigento).
Ufficio dello stato civile
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[url=http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=titledetails&titleno=28974&disp=Registri+dello+stato+civile+di+Licata+%2%20%20&columns=*,0,0]film notes for Licata[/url]

Topic:
Italy, Agrigento, Licata - Civil registration
Titles:
Registri dello stato civile di Licata (Agrigento), 1820-1910 Licata (Agrigento).
Ufficio dello stato civile
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In case you aren’t familiar with the Family History Center & Italian records

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A helpful essay written by Trish, one of our forum members:
Steps for Finding Microfilm at the Family History Center
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Italian Record Research from FamilySearch guides:
Italy Research Outline
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Also from FamilySearch (PDF format)
Italian Records Extraction - An Instructional Guide

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Re: looking for info on schifano-cacciatore from palermo!!

Postby rayneda » 11 Mar 2010, 04:28

Hello Kylie
I am Eda - your great Uncle Charlie's only child. Uncle Joe was a lovely man - and it has been many years since I saw my cousins...one of whom is obviously your parent. Are you Lynn, Robyn, Ronnie or Tammy's child?

I was actually named after your Great Grandma whose real name was Agata Aida Schifano - but her nickname was Ida pronounced with a long EE sound)...so my parents changed the I to an E....and another cousin - John's daughter was give the same name. I'm Eda Angela..she's Eda Lynn.

I can't help with the deep ancestry but I can confirm for you that they were indeed from Licata. Great Grandpa was well into his nineties when he passed away - but he was still in his eighties and still running a shoe repair shop. The did live in Racine Wisconsin when he was working for a restaurant chain called the Brass Rail....In fact my father was born there in 1919. Sadly, my Dad died this past July - also at age 91, after a great life.

A few other points....
Ida was married in Italy to another man by whom I know that she had at least one child - a son - Lawrence (his American name) Larusso. Uncle Larry lived here and had a son named Larry that was in the Navy at least for a time...I think they lived in California but not sure..

I believe Ida's first husband passed away and she then married my grandfather (the shoemaker) Antonio/Antonino Cacciatore. While still in Italy they had a son named Mario (who had a son named Antonino - deceased since 1994...I met them both on a trip there at age 12). Mario stayed behind in Italy - He was the only child that did, and I can only guess that he may have been in love...or he may have had some condition that would have forced him to be refused at Ellis Island, but I don't think he ever came here even for a visit.

Aunt Jean (Vincenza) was born there too. She lived in Florida in her later years and was married to Clyde Squires. She had one child Marie Squires Wilhelm who had 6 kids (George -who was my age-, MaryEllen, Robert, Tina, John and Paul) and later married a man named Charles Gerts (or Gertz).

Uncle Louis did change his name to Hunter. I think he lived in New Mexico and I only met him on a few rare occasions.

Uncle Sal kept the name Cacciatore. He and Aunt Marie had two kids - John and Madonna and they lived in Irving, Texas.

I believe Aunt Mary in Arizona, and Uncle Frank here in New York are the only surviving children. Uncle Frank's lost his wife last year but as far as I know he is still working part time at a school cafeteria - as he loves kids - and living part time with his daughter Maryann Wieczorek in Northport and part time with his son Anthony (during the school year). I will be calling Maryann this week and will share that I encountered your postings when I looked up our grandmother. I'd been trying to figure out what year she passed away and how old I was. I can only tell you that I remember her sitting straight up, proud and and firm in her home hospital bed in spite of what I believe was either stomach or colon cancer that took her life soon after. She, Nonnu and Aunt Mary and Aunt Lena and their families lived as long as I can remember in a large house in Flushing that had three separate family units until she passed away.

By the way - You are right about the brother Angelo Schifano...There was an Uncle Joe (him) after whon your grandfather was named - but only after my father was changed form a Joseph to a Charie because some Uncle Calogero came t town and there wasn't a child named after him!!!

That's all I've got for now.

Best
Eda

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Re: looking for info on schifano-cacciatore from palermo!!

Postby derek97ex » 11 Mar 2010, 04:40

i am looking for the same family name is montesano from the same area

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Postby kyliekya » 14 Mar 2010, 02:08

Hello Eda!! Sooo wonderful to meet you. Yes, I am Tammi's daughter...and it turns out my papa (Your uncle joe) had a son before he met my grandmother his name is also Joe Cacciatore and he lives in Knoxville (really sweet guy!) and from all of this research I did I actually found another Uncle Sam that is the newest member of the family! Please send me an email I would absolutely looove to talk with you and connect! My email is akins.4@hotmail.com

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Re: looking for info on schifano-cacciatore from palermo!!

Postby Kuji » 26 Nov 2010, 23:20

Hello,
My name is Virginia LaRusse, I am Lawrence LaRusse's Daughter.
I'm trying to find information about my father's real Father, Salvatore LaRussa. I find a lot of information about the Cacciatore's but none on the LaRusse's. The Cacciatore's were dad's half brothers and sisters.
my email is : vmlarusse@yahoo.com
If anyone has any information, please email me.
or if you need any information about the family that I can help with.
Thank you,
Virginia
P.s. LaRussa was changed to LaRusse when Daddy came to the USA from Sicily.


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