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Surnames Mari & D'Agata

Postby MeliMel215 » 14 Aug 2009, 19:05

Hello! I have been trying endlessly to research my Italian family history. My great grandfather was named Salvatore Mari and he came from Paliano, Italy. He arrived in the US on March 17, 1911 when he was 18 (or so the records say!)

I am also looking for info on my great-great grandmother. Her name was Vincenza D'Agata and she arrived in the US from Colle Sannita on July 21, 1900 (I think!), with 4 of her children. She was re-married and her married name was Mascia.

I'm a little stuck with my research, so any help is greatly appreciated!

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Re: Surnames Mari & D'Agata

Postby vj » 14 Aug 2009, 20:29

Hi!
Just for reference, is this the correct manifest?
Do you have any US records for Salvatore Mari?
Thank you, Valarie

1911 page 1
page 2

11 Mar 1911 SS Virginia Naples to NY
line 23

Salvatore Mari 18 (abt 1892)
- single
- has possible naturalization notation
- in Paliano, father Giovanni
- destination NY NY
- joining his brother
- born in Paliano (Frosinone, Lazio)

note: traveling with line 24 to the same address

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Re: Surnames Mari & D'Agata

Postby MeliMel215 » 15 Aug 2009, 00:38

Yes! That's the correct one. I don't have any US records, but he married Maria Mascia in the US and had 6 children. He died fairly young - I believe in the 50's or 60's.

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Re: Surnames Mari & D'Agata

Postby Italysearcher » 15 Aug 2009, 06:22

Paliano was part of the Papal States so civil records didn't start until around 1870. To search before that you will need a parish search.
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Re: Surnames Mari & D'Agata

Postby vj » 15 Aug 2009, 13:02

Salvatore Mari

Do these records look correct?

1917-1918 WWI Draft Registration Card
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1930 census
Home in 1930:
20 Dudley Street, rents $24
Hamden, New Haven, Connecticut

head Salvatore Mari 38, abt 1892 IT
- married age 29, abt 1921
- immig 1910, Pa (filed 1st papers for naturalization)
- millman, wire mfg
wife Maria Mari 28, abt 1902 NY
son John Mari 7, abt 1923 CT
daughter Josephine Mari 5, abt 1925 CT
daughter Louise Mari 3, abt 1927 CT
daughter Rose Mari 1 10/12 abt 1928 CT
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1942 WWII Draft Registration Card

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Re: Surnames Mari & D'Agata

Postby vj » 15 Aug 2009, 13:17

MeliMel215 wrote:I am also looking for info on my great-great grandmother. Her name was Vincenza D'Agata and she arrived in the US from Colle Sannita on July 21, 1900 (I think!), with 4 of her children. She was re-married and her married name was Mascia.


Hi!
Is this your 1900 manifest?
Thanks
Valarie
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Vincenza D'Agata

1900 manifest

29 Jul 1900, SS California, Naples to NY
lines 27-30

Vincenza D'Agata 33, abt 1867
- last residence Colle Sannita (Benevento, Campania)
- destination NY NY
- joining husband Vzo Giuseppe Mascia
Maria Piele(?) 9, abt 1891
Celesta Piele(?) 7, abt 1893
- possible naturalization notation
Mariangela Mascia 3, abt 1897
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Do these records look correct?

possible 1910 census

Home in 1910:
275 East 152nd Street, rents
Bronx Assembly District 33, New York, New York

head Joseph Mascia 60, abt 1850 IT
- married once, 14 years, abt 1896
- immig 1898, Pa
- stone mason, foundation
wife Vinzenza Mascia 40, abt 1870 IT
- married twice, 7 children
- immig 1900
daughter Angelina Mascia 13, abt 1897 IT
- immig 1900
daughter Elizabeth Mascia 9, abt 1901 NY
son Pasqualina Mascia 6, abt 1904 NY
daughter Mallie Mascia 4, abt 1906 NY
son Constatines Mascia 6/12, abt 1909 NY

son-in-law Peter MacCheaedi (probably Macchiaroli) 22, abt 1888 IT
- immig 1904 Al
- motorman, railroad
daughter Mary MacCheaedi 18, abt 1892 IT
- married once 2 years, abt 1908
- immig 1900
nephew (niece?/granddaughter?) Smcia (Lucia?) MacCheaedi 1 6/12, abt 1908 NY

note: this appears to be daughter Mary & husband Peter Macchiaroli in 1920 in CT
1920 census
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possible 1920 census
page 2

Home in 1920:
12 (?) St Mary Street
Hamden, New Haven, Connecticut

head Joseph Mascia 65, abt 1855 IT
- immig 1900, Al
- Teamster, brick yard
wife Vincenza Mascia 50, abt 1870 IT
- immig 1900, Al
- Wire operator, wire factory
daughter Elizabeth Mascia 19, abt 1901 CT
son Patsy Mascia 16, abt 1904 CT
daughter Millie Mascia 14, abt 1906 CT
son Constance Mascia 9, abt 1911 CT
son Joseph Mascia 8, abt 1912 CT
daughter Jessie Mascia 6, abt 1914 CT
son Pasquale Mascia 1, abt 1919 CT
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If you haven’t used these, they may help you locate New York City records:

Dr Steve Morse One Step Search Pages for New York
NY Naturalization
NYC Birth Records 1891-1902 (requires ancestry. com subscription)
NYC Groom Index 1864-1936
NYC Bride Index ????-1937
NYC Death Records 1891-1948

Ordering NYC Vital Records
New York City Archives

from NYC records by the Italian Genealogical Group
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Re: Surnames Mari & D'Agata

Postby vj » 15 Aug 2009, 20:02

MeliMel215 wrote:... he married Maria Mascia in the US and had 6 children. He died fairly young - I believe in the 50's or 60's.


CT Death Index

Salvatore Mari

Name: Salva. Mari
Death Date: 29 Nov 1952
Death Place: New Haven, New Haven, Connecticut
Age: 60 Years
Birth Date: abt 1892
Marital Status: Married
Spouse: Mari.
State File #: 17433
Residence : New Haven, New Haven, Connecticut
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Vincenza D'Agata

Name: Vincenza Mascia
Death Date: 14 Nov 1950
Death Place: New Haven, New Haven, Connecticut
Age: 83 Years
Birth Date: abt 1867
Marital Status: Widowed
State File #: 16417
Residence : Hamden, New Haven, Connecticut

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Re: Surnames Mari & D'Agata

Postby MeliMel215 » 20 Aug 2009, 22:58

Wow! Thank you to everyone who found all of this! This is great!! Is there any way I can search for Salvatore's information in Paliano before he came to the US?

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Re: Surnames Mari & D'Agata

Postby Italysearcher » 21 Aug 2009, 11:59

It looks like the records for at least his birth and probably his parents marriage have been microfilmed, so you can do at least that. I don't know what the parish records are like but that you have to do at the church in Italy with the priests permission.
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Re: Surnames Mari & D'Agata

Postby PeterTimber » 21 Aug 2009, 13:29

Before writing for church records you might wish to read about Italian Church Records at www.anzwers.org/free/italiangen/italian ... cords.html

To find the church (s) inPaliano go to www.parrocchie.it and put in paliano on the right side and see if there is a telephone number alongside indicating a resident priest since many are closed and are served by a circuit priest. Please let us know your intentions so we can guide you further. =Peter=
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Re: Surnames Mari & D'Agata

Postby MeliMel215 » 29 Aug 2009, 19:54

Intentions? That's a strange question. I've always been interested in my family roots. My grandfather (who, I've always thought is the greatest man in the world), always said he never thought to ask his father about his family because he didn't think he'd lose him so young. So I wanted to figure everything out for him.

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Re: Surnames Mari & D'Agata

Postby Gia3 » 30 Aug 2009, 11:34

dear melimel
We would like to know more about our American family, we also have a letter written by Salvatore in 1947 we have a second letter from Rosa, who at that time was 17, written in about 1950 and a photo of Salvatore sent to our great grandfather Vincenzo (his brother).
We are curiouse to trace our family tree including our great grandfather Vincenso's brother's family.
After so many years it would be great to get in contact...if you have a facebook account please add us on facebook, my name is Giacomo Minori, Mari Marisa's grandson, or send an email to Katia, Mari Marisa's grandaughter at this email address stellina.pkl@libero.it

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Re: Surnames Mari & D'Agata

Postby PeterTimber » 30 Aug 2009, 11:55

Dear MeliMel since the records in city hall of Paliano only go from 1875 to 1898 perhaps you might want to contact a church for earlier records like birth,marriage ior death record. You will need to know how to write in italian or use one of the italian language form letters. This is what I meant what are your intentions? What documents are you seking and do you have the full names and year of birth?

Did you check for a the parish church addressin paliano as I suggested previously above? =Peter=
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Re: Surnames Mari & D'Agata

Postby MeliMel215 » 02 Sep 2009, 00:44

Sorry Peter! I was wondering what that could mean! Haha! I can write some Italian, so I'll have to work on that! I really appreciate your help!

As you can see from Giacomo who posted before you, I found my family in Italy. I think they have more information!


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