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help finding grandparents

Postby Teapot » 19 Aug 2009, 02:50

I need help finding my grandparents, who were from San Mango D'Aquino, Calabria. My grandfather was Rosario Gabriele Fiorillo, son of Angelo and Cecilia Fiorello. He was born around 1879 and died in America on August 8, 1951. My grandmother was Theresa Caterina,(or Catrina) also from San Mango. She was the daughter of Antonio and Magdalena Caterina, also born around 1879 and died in America in 1929. I don't know what year they were married, but I do know my grandfather came to America in 1902 and my grandmother followed with their daughter, Maria Cecilia Fiorillo in 1908. It would mean so much to me to learn more about them. I can't find any record of my grandfather entering this country. I can find his brother and my grandmother and their child, but no information on Rosario.
Thank you in advance for any help or directions to take. I am very new at genealogy searching.

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Re: help finding grandparents

Postby Romano1970 » 19 Aug 2009, 03:00

Looking thru Ellis Island Manifests now.
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Re: help finding grandparents

Postby Romano1970 » 19 Aug 2009, 03:12

Hard time finding anything as well. Are you sure they came through Ellis. Possibly Boston??
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Re: help finding grandparents

Postby Teapot » 19 Aug 2009, 04:45

I have the manifest showing my grandmother came through Ellis, as did my grandfather's brother. But I can't find his name anywhere. I do know that he couldn't read or write, but I don't know if that would make any difference. Thanks for taking the time to help me. I do have a military registration card copy with his name and place of birth listed on it, so I know the information i provided is accurate. I wondered if it's possible to find my grandmother's name on a marriage license in Calabria and find more about my grandfather that way. It's a back door approach, but I can't think of any other way to locate them.

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Re: help finding grandparents

Postby vj » 19 Aug 2009, 13:42

Hello!

A possibility?

from ancestry. com
26 May 1902 manifest

line 8
Gabriele Fiorillo
- 25 yrs old
- married
- last residence San Mango d'Aquino
- destination Carbondale PA

same manifest on Ellis Island
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 2759110308

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Re: help finding grandparents

Postby Teapot » 19 Aug 2009, 14:59

Oh THANK YOU so much. This has to be him! I only just received this military registration a few days ago, which included his middle name. I knew it was the letter "G", but had no idea it was Gabriele until then. It didn't occur to me to check under that name.
If I may ask another question, how can I obtain their marriage license or birth certificates? You all have been so wonderfully helpful and I do appreciate it.

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Re: help finding grandparents

Postby vj » 19 Aug 2009, 15:11

I'm so glad we could help!
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Research in San Mango d'Aquino by writing to the comune:

Italian form letter generator with instructions:
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... civile.asp

Address:

Comune di San Mango d'Aquino
Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Piazza Municipio
88040 San Mango d'Aquino CZ
ITALY
http://www.tuttitalia.it/calabria/46-sa ... -d-aquino/
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Website for finding comune addresses:
http://www.nonsolocap.it/
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For older records (1809-1860), you could review your family’s records on microfilm.

Your nearest Family History Center has records for San Mango d'Aquino on microfilm.
The cost is about $6 mo (rent), you’ll need to go to the center to order & view them.

Family History Library Catalog:
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film notes for San Mango d'Aquino

Topic:
Italy, Catanzaro, San Mango d'Aquino - Civil registration
Titles:
Registri dello stato civile, 1809-1860 San Mango d'Aquino (Catanzaro).
Ufficio dello stato civile
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Re: help finding grandparents

Postby vj » 19 Aug 2009, 15:45

Not sure if you've seen this from the FamilySearch Pilot, Ohio Death Certificates 1908-1953
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... 7819#start

Death Certificate

Name: Ross G. Fiorello
Death date: 08 Aug 1951
Death place: East Liverpool, Columbiana, Ohio, United States
Birthdate: 06 Jun 1878
Birthplace: Italy
Age at death: 73 years 2 months 2 days
Gender: Male
Marital status: Widower
Race or color: Caucasian
Street address: 855 Ohio Ave
Occupation: Retired
Burial date: 11 Aug 1951
Cemetery name: St Aloysius
Father's name: Angelo Fiorello
Mother's name: Cecilla Repole
Informant: Victor J Fiorello
GSU film number: 2372840
Digital GS number: 4109397
Image number: 00766
Reference number: 47779
Collection: Ohio Deaths 1908-1953

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Re: help finding grandparents

Postby Squigy » 08 Oct 2009, 04:26

My great great grandfather was Vincenzo Fiorillo/Fiorelli, born circa 1872 in San Mango d'Aquino, married to Maria Romito. He came here circa 1897. Do you think there's a relation?
My Italian surnames:

Caserta: Maietta, Rossano, Tessitore, Negro, Peluso, Musone

Campobasso: D'Andrea, Barile

Catanzaro: Fiorelli/Fiorillo, Romito

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Re: help finding grandparents

Postby Teapot » 08 Oct 2009, 16:21

It's very likely that there is some relationship there. My grandfather, Rosario, had two baby boys, both named Vincent, and both died around the age of one. They tended to name their children after other family members. If you find out any more information, I'd sure like to hear about it, if it's no trouble to you. I intend to order a copy of my grandfather's birth certificate some time soon, to try to learn more about him and his family. Thanks for asking me, though.

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Postby Squigy » 08 Oct 2009, 23:48

Teapot wrote:It's very likely that there is some relationship there. My grandfather, Rosario, had two baby boys, both named Vincent, and both died around the age of one. They tended to name their children after other family members. If you find out any more information, I'd sure like to hear about it, if it's no trouble to you. I intend to order a copy of my grandfather's birth certificate some time soon, to try to learn more about him and his family. Thanks for asking me, though.


Did Gabriele by any chance live in Lawrence County PA in his life?
My Italian surnames:



Caserta: Maietta, Rossano, Tessitore, Negro, Peluso, Musone



Campobasso: D'Andrea, Barile



Catanzaro: Fiorelli/Fiorillo, Romito

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Postby Teapot » 09 Oct 2009, 00:54

It's possible. I know he worked as a cook for a time at a restaurant in Pittsburgh. Also, I know he knew someone close in Kensington, PA because we found an old letter from this man. I'm asking a local language teacher to translate it for us. That's about as much as I know.

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Postby Squigy » 09 Oct 2009, 01:15

Teapot wrote:It's possible. I know he worked as a cook for a time at a restaurant in Pittsburgh. Also, I know he knew someone close in Kensington, PA because we found an old letter from this man. I'm asking a local language teacher to translate it for us. That's about as much as I know.


By the way, is the Ross G. Fiorello that Valarie mentioned above, the one who died in Ohio, your grandfather? If so, I have an obit for him that I found on Ancestry.com. If it is tell me and I'll post it. Now back to Vincenzo. I was wondering, do you think it's possible Gabriele and Vincenzo were brothers? I don't know Vincenzo's parents names so they may be. Do you have any family members who might remember Vincenzo? Anyway, Vincenzo has a living daughter, so I'll try to get a hold of her, and see if she knows his parents names.
My Italian surnames:



Caserta: Maietta, Rossano, Tessitore, Negro, Peluso, Musone



Campobasso: D'Andrea, Barile



Catanzaro: Fiorelli/Fiorillo, Romito

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Re: help finding grandparents

Postby Teapot » 09 Oct 2009, 03:04

I'm sorry, I have no idea if they were brothers. I do know my grandfather (yes, he died in Ohio) had a brother, Angelo. If there were others, I'm not aware. My biggest problem is that I don't have any older relatives left who could answer any of my questions. All of my mother's siblings are deseased now. I can tell you that Rosario's parents were Angelo and Cecilia Repone Fiorillo, all from San Mango. That's as far as I've gotten with research. Please keep me posted if you learn anything more.

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Re: help finding grandparents

Postby juanminbar » 09 Oct 2009, 17:10

in the scranton ( 20 minutes south of carbondale ) area there are two listings relative to food.

fiorelli catering.....570.489.6777

fiorillo's pizza ad familt rest.....570.587.4042

good luck, john


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