My g g g grandfather John (presumably Giovanni) Stopani left Italy in the late 1700's and settled in Scotland. He came from the Lombardy area of Italy. I am very keen to learn about the family prior to 1800 and welcome any information. Thank you.
Ancestry.com has a list of UK census collection starrting with 1841 for Scotland.
Get bac k if youneed more assistance with Lombaria records..in Italy you need to know the town of origin in order to trace the Stopani easily but not knowing will make life a bit more difficult..=Peter=
Thanks Peter for your reply.
I am aware of all the sites you mention but it is pre 1800 info that I am looking for.
I am led to believe that they originated in Lecco but cannot be one hundred percent certain.
I do know that the use of one 'p' in the surname is very rare compared with the double 'p'.
Any help you can give with this would be most welcome.
There is a STOPANI listed in Piemonte on the border with Lomabrdia. Go to www.paginebianche.it and put in Stopani in the first line and Piemonte in the second line and click CERCA for the one entry. His name,address and telephone number will come up.
Should he be related (I think so!) to you and your ancestor then you can write for documents should civil records exist for his town of origin in Italy. Civil records for Northern parts of Italy which were uinder foreign domination were spotty while those areas of Italy occupied by Napoleon instituted Civil Service and records in the southern portion of Italy.
Please let us know the outcome of your communication with Mr Walter Stopani. =Peter=
most probably, in italian spelling, the risht surname is STOPPANI; Stopani is a wrong version very rare...
The Como area as birth place is very probable also; Lecco in the past was in Como province....
without more infos it is hard to have a idea of birth town... no mother name...
if this record is right:
STOPANI, JOHN Scotland, fl.1824-50, OIM PHIM Stick Barometer = X; Wheel Barometers = X, Christie-SK 11/27/86, Phillips 8/12/87. the barometers are signed "J. Stopani" or "J. Stopani Aberdeen." 38 North Street (1824-25); 42 Queen Street (1827-40); 44 Queen Street (1841-43);68 Broad Street (1844-50); all in Aberdeen.
http://historydb.adlerplanetarium.org/signatures/s.pl well if this info is right, abt the barometer, sure Como area is very probable place of birth... because is very pertaining...
on the marriage act ( spouse: Christina Duncan) what are the Giovanni's parent names???
maybe the mother surname could be helpful for to understand the birth common....
it are availables on line the civil records in Como area ( 1866-1929), but no helpful for you because Giovanni was born around 1789....
also it are "Christenings in Como area from 1830 to 1866 "
http://www.centrorusca.it/bancaDatiBattesimi.htm and not helpful also....
so .. only ... if you search better in Scotland, any helpful info... we can advice you, better, for the search in Italy....
Yes the info you quote about the barometers is correct and where he settled is correct.
I have no idea of mother or father's name. The story goes that he fled Italy to avoid conscription into Napoleon's army so it is conceivable that the original name was one 'p' but I doubt it.
There is a large Stopani (with one 'p') tomb in the Cimitero Monumentale in Milan, but try as I might, I cannot find out who is interred within nor when it was erected!
My Great Great Grandfather Antonio Barazzoni was a friend and business associate of John Stopani in Aberdeen. Antonio was born in Como. His brother was in the Austrian army, Como being part of the Austrian Empire. Antonio married in Scotland in 1830. John Stopani was sponsor at the baptism of my Great Grandmother Esther Barazzoni in 1839. In 1841 Antonio B and John Stopani were both in Queen Street. Mine worked in optical glass and was associated with barometer making.
from your family history, do you know how the Aberdeen and Sheffield Stopanis are linked? And is there any link you know of with the name Alberte? (apart from being barometer makers) Just wondered because I know of an item with the two names. Handwritten description says John Stopani 24th August 1854.
I know this post hasn't been commented on in four years, but my grandfather Ronald Leiper was Esther Barazzoni's great-grandchild. As far as I know, Esther lived in Belmont Street and also Skene Street for a large amount of her life. I also have managed to trace further back to her grandparents, Antonio Barazzoni, who arrived from Como in late 18th century/early 19th. Right now I'm looking for any information about Esther Barazzoni, as we've lost track of a huge amount of family over the years. She had around seven children, and everyone's lost touch over the years. If anyone could get in touch with any information, that would be great.