Vincenzo Ragusa family from Bisacquino

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Vincenzo Ragusa family from Bisacquino

Postby anita54 » 07 Sep 2009, 21:01

I (along with Jennifer 63) am trying to determine if we are related and if we have the correct information about our ancestors. I first researched my greatgrandfather 2 years ago. I found that a Vincenzo Ragusa (17)entered the US in 1883 along with Filippo (54) & Pietro (28) Ragusa (through Louisiana on the Egbert) I believe this is my greatgrandfather because my grandfather (who was Vincenzo's oldest child) was named Philip (as was the custom, after the grandfather) and Vincenzo also had a son named Peter. I also researched marriage records in Louisiana because I know that my greatgrandmother was Josephine Maenza. I found that they married in Louisiana in 1889 when Vincenzo was 23. The ages match. Vincenzo changed his name to Charles Rouss and moved to Birmingham, Alabama. He had nine children--Philip, Sam, Joe, Ben, Peter, Francesca, Anna, Rose, & Marie. That is all we ever knew. Recently Jennifer 63 and I have been trying to determine if we are related. I spoke with an older relative who said that all she knew was that her grandfather (my greatgrandfather, Vincenzo (Charles Rouss)) had a brother in New York that he visited in around 1925. I have pictures of Marie and her father, Vincenzo (Charles), in New York with relatives but no name.

I was starting to think that Jennifer and I were not related because supposedly there was not much of an age difference between Vincenzo (Charles) and his brother in NY. Pietro would have been 11 years older. But then we discovered Bernardo. (and my father's middle name was Bernard). Now I wonder if this is a third brother and that Jennifer and I are kin, especially since we know that Pietro did come to US the first time in 1883 and that he also lived in Birmingham for a while. Help!

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Re: Vincenzo Ragusa family from Bisacquino

Postby anita54 » 07 Sep 2009, 21:05

OH, also, Bernardo's first son is Philip. Same as Pietro's first son and Vincenzo's (Charles) first son--my grandfather Philip.

By the way, my grandfather Philip married Pauline Raia and they had three sons--Vincent, Jack and my dad Joseph Bernard.

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Re: Vincenzo Ragusa family from Bisacquino

Postby vj » 08 Sep 2009, 14:06

Hello Anita!
Just for everyone's reference, your family records from ancestry. com
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1883 manifest

30 Oct 1883, Ship Egbert, Leghorn and Palermo to New Orleans
lines 227-9
Filippo Ragusa 54, abt 1829
Pietro Ragusa 28, 1855
Vincenzo Ragusa 17, abt 1866
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New Orleans, Louisiana Marriage Records Index, 1831-1925

Name: Vincenzo Ragusa
Spouse: Guiseppa Maenza
Age: 23 (abt 1866)
Age: 21 (abt 1868)
Marriage Date: 19 Dec 1889
Marriage Place: Orleans
Volume: 14
Page: 259
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1900 census

Home in 1900:
17th Street between E & F, owns house without a mortgage
Ensley, Jefferson, Alabama

Chas Rauss 34, born Jan 1866
- married 10 years
- immig 1882, in US 18 yrs, Na
- grocery merchant
Josephine Rauss 31, born March 1869
- 6 children
- immig 1889, in US 11 yrs
Note: children all born in Alabama
Phillip Rauss 8
Sam Rauss 7
Peter Rauss 5
Francis Rauss 4
Joe Rauss 2
Rosa Rauss 1

Sam Capise 18
Frank Tombarello 32
Sam Glaino 39
Jake Tombarello 29
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1910 census

Home in 1910:
515 1/2 Seventeenth Street, owns without a mortgage
Birmingham Ward 16, Jefferson, Alabama

Charles Ronn 44, abt 1866 IT
- married 20 yrs
- immig 1888(?), Na
- president, whole sale grocery
Josephine Ronn 40, abt 1870 IT
- 10 children born, 9 children living
- immig 1890
Note: children all born in Alabama
Philip S Ronn 19
Soma Ronn 17
Peter Ronn 15
Francis Ronn 14
Joe Ronn 12
Rosa Ronn 11
Ben Ronn 9
Annie Ronn 8
Mary Ronn 3
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1920 census

Home in 1920:
515 1/2 Street 17, owns without a mortgage
Birmingham, Jefferson, Alabama

Charles Rouss 54, abt 1866 IT
- immig (?), Na
- merchant
Josephine Rouss 51, abt 1869 IT
- immig (?), Na
Sam Rouss 27 AL
Peter Rouss 25 AL
Joe Rouss 22 AL
Anne Rouss 18 AL
Marie Rouss 12 AL

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Re: Vincenzo Ragusa family from Bisacquino

Postby vj » 08 Sep 2009, 14:21

from FamilySearch Pilot
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/rec ... 7819#start

Alabama Statewide Deaths 1908-1974

Name: Chas. Rouss
Death date: 18 Mar 1930
Death place: Ensley, Jefferson, Alabama
Age at death: 64y
Estimated birth year: 1866
Spouse's name: Jennie M. Rouss
Father's name: Phillip Rouss
Mother's name: Frances Tortorice

Film number: 1908476
Reference number: cn 6193
Collection: Alabama Statewide Deaths 1908-1974
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Name: Josephine Rouss
Death date: 20 Oct 1925
Death place: Ensley, Jefferson, Alabama
Age at death: 56y
Estimated birth year: 1869
Birthplace: Italy
Marital status: Married
Father's name: Savader Masnja
Father's birthplace: Italy
Mother's name: Rosa Oddor
Mother's birthplace: Italy
Street address: 2400 Ave E.
Residence: Ensley, Ala
Cemetery name: Oakland
Burial date: 22 Oct 1925
Film number: 1908275
Reference number: cn 22583
Collection: Alabama Statewide Deaths 1908-1974
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Name: Philip T. Rouss
Death date: 19 Jan 1957
Death place: Birmingham, Jefferson, Alabama
Age at death: 66y
Estimated birth year: 1891
Father's name: Chas. Rouss
Mother's name: Josephine Maenza

Film number: 1908916
Reference number: 882
Collection: Alabama Statewide Deaths 1908-1974
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Name: Ben Rouss
Death date: 18 Jul 1917
Death place: Ensley, Jefferson Co., Alabama
Gender: Male
Age at death: 17y
Estimated birth year: 1900
Birthplace: Ensley, Ala.
Marital status: Single
Father's name: Charlie Rouss
Father's birthplace: Itlay
Mother's name: Josephine M. Rouss
Mother's birthplace: Italy
Street address: 515 1/2 17th St.
Residence: Ensley
Cemetery name: Oakland
Additional relatives: X
Film number: 1908191
Reference number: cn 514
Collection: Alabama Statewide Deaths 1908-1974


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