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Novelli Family Information

Postby LindaAnn » 08 Sep 2009, 18:53

My great grandfather was Cesare Novelli. He was born 6/14/1887 in Gallese (I think). I found record of his going thru Ellis Island 4/17/1909. His first wife died when my grandfather Ed was a young boy. We know info on the 2nd wife but not the first. He lived in the Pittsburgh PA area (probably Carnegie). Would info on the first wife be on any census ? HOw do you find that kind of info? I think his father's name was Francesco. That's all I know. Any suggestions are welcomed.

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Re: Novelli Family Information

Postby pink67 » 08 Sep 2009, 19:27

Hi Linda :D

from Ancestry.com (subscription site) this is the 1920 census for Cesare Novelli:

1920 United States Federal Census
about Cesare Novelli
Name: Cesare Novelli
[Cesere Novelli]
Home in 1920: Collier, Allegheny, Pennsylvania
Age: 32 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Widow
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1908
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 958
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Cesare Novelli 32 head, widow, born in IT, year of immigr. 1908

please note that a few lines above there are three Novelli's children (Dante age 7, Edward 3 years and 9 months and Hilda 1 year and 6 months) living listed as Grandchilds with Facciotti Angelo (head) and Regina (wife).... Maybe they were their maternal granparents?

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edit to add details:


from the same site the Naturalization document for Cesare:

Selected U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1790-1974 (World Archives Project)
about Cesare Novelli
Name: Cesare Novelli
State: Pennsylvania
Court Type: District Court
Court Location: Western District, Pennsylvania
Naturalization Record Type: Petition for Naturalization
Naturalization Record Number: 31603
Roll Description: (Roll 243) Petitions 31401-31660
Archive: National Archives, Washington, D.C.
Collection Title: Naturalization Petitions of the U.S. District Court, 1820-1930, and Circuit Court, 1820-1911, for the Western District of Pennsylvania
Archive Series: M1537
Archive Roll: 243

He was born on June 14, 1887 in Gallese (Viterbo Province - Lazio region) and he stated his wife's first name was Rose (deceased at the time of this document)
So maybe she was Rose Facciotti?

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Re: Novelli Family Information

Postby pink67 » 08 Sep 2009, 19:38

From http://www.ellisisland.org/ here is Rosa Facciotti's 1906 arrival, travelling with her mother Regina :!: and siblings Francesco, Riccardo, Emilio and Mafalda, coming from Pescantina (Verona Province - Veneto Region) and joining their husband/father Angelo in Pittsburgh

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0011

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Re: Novelli Family Information

Postby LindaAnn » 09 Sep 2009, 23:00

Thank you so much Laura. I was taking notes and digging abit when your email came in. I really appreciate your help. I've got everyone in the family calling to see what I'm learning. I really appreciate the help that everyone is giving me. I am anxious to get my hands on the books recommended.

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Re: Novelli Family Information

Postby LindaAnn » 15 Sep 2009, 18:17

Okay... family was from Gallese. Now that I know the names of my greatgrandfather's parents (but not their birthdates) can I still write for info? Thanks.
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Re: Novelli Family Information

Postby pink67 » 16 Sep 2009, 06:46

LindaAnn wrote:Okay... family was from Gallese. Now that I know the names of my greatgrandfather's parents (but not their birthdates) can I still write for info? Thanks.


From Ancestry.com, here is the naturalization paper for Angelo Facciotti:

Selected U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1790-1974 (World Archives Project) about Angelo Facciotti
Name: Angelo Facciotti
State: Pennsylvania
Court Type: District Court
Court Location: Western District, Pennsylvania
Naturalization Record Type: Petition for Naturalization
Naturalization Record Number: 15440
Roll Description: (Roll 179) Petitions 15401-15675
Archive: National Archives, Washington, D.C.
Collection Title: Naturalization Petitions of the U.S. District Court, 1820-1930, and Circuit Court, 1820-1911, for the Western District of Pennsylvania
Archive Series: M1537
Archive Roll: 179

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He was born on January 23, 1868 in Pescantina - Verona Province - Veneto region (north of Italy), on the document you can also have his child's birth date :!: (Rosa was born in Italy on April 20, 1895 from her 1906 arrival manifest already posted, you can see she was born in Pescantina)

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0023

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pescantina

If you check the Ellis Island (free) site you can see that Regina Facciotti did a trip back to Italy in 1913, on her arrival manifest she stated she was born in Pescantina, as her age was 44 so probably she was born on 1869... please note that she stated she was leaving her father Antonio :!: in Pescantina

Regina Facciotti 1913 arrival manifest:

page 1:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0023

page 2:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0023

From this side (Facciotti) you have enough dates to be able to write to the Pescantina Comune and ask for the certificates you need...

Here are some form letters to request the documents:

http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... civile.asp

requests to:
http://www.comune.pescantina.vr.it/uffi ... ff0503.htm

Comune di Pescantina
Ufficio di Stato civile
Via Ponte 7

37026 Pescantina VR
Italia

Hope this helps you....

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Re: Novelli Family Information

Postby pink67 » 16 Sep 2009, 07:05

If you check the Ellis Island site

http://stevemorse.org/ellis2/ellisgold.html

using Gallese (Town of origin) and Novelli (lastname) you'll se there were just a few Novelli ...
you'll be able to find at least two arrival manifests for your great-grandfather Cesare Novelli, in the second (1909) he stated he was leaving in Italy (Gallese - Viterbo Province - Lazio region) his father Francesco:

1909 arrival manifest page 1:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0028

1909 arrival manifest page 2:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0028

Comune di Gallese
Ufficio di Stato Civile
Piazza Duomo, 1

01035 Gallese VT
Italia

http://www.comune.gallese.vt.it/uffuciodem.php

Laura

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Re: Novelli Family Information

Postby LindaAnn » 17 Sep 2009, 13:52

Laura,

Thank you so much! This is a big help. I have great news.... by contacting a granddaughter of Cesare (thru his 2nd wife) I have heard from some cousins in Italy. I now have Cesare's siblings names and his parents names! Can't wait to get back on the computer.

Thanks for all your help!
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