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Looking for Giovanni Inglese, circa 1900 in NY/NJ

Postby JohnArmellino » 12 Sep 2009, 17:02

I'm looking for Giovanni Inglese, married to Carmela (surname unknown), who possibly immigrated in 1896 to NY/NJ.

I'm trying to confirm that he is the son of Nicola Maria Inglese and Maria Gaetana di Lallo, both of Campobasso (CB). Also trying to determine the surname of his wife, Carmela.

Giovanni is a possible sibling of Leonardo Inglese, husband of Carmela Montone, and Pasqualina Antonietta Inglese, wife of Angelo Pietrunti. Angelo Pietrunti arrived at Ellis Island 13 APR 1896 and was traveling to his brother-in-law Giovanni Inglese.
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Re: Looking for Giovanni Inglese, circa 1900 in NY/NJ

Postby suanj » 12 Sep 2009, 19:47

Angelo Pietrunti made another trip in 1902 and joining at giovanni Inglese brother in law in NY/NJ... it is impossible to say if is NY or NJ ;

First Name: Angelo
Last Name: Pietrunti
Ethnicity: Italian
Last Place of Residence: Campobasso
Date of Arrival: Mar 03, 1902
Age at Arrival: 39y Gender: M Marital Status: M

Ship of Travel: Trave
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0010
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipM ... 733100010&

Instead in the trip of 1905, Angelo Pietrunti joining at Leonardo Inglese...

http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipm ... 2406010600

It could be Leonardo Inglese 1900 census???
1900 United States Federal Census about Lunaid English
Name: Lunaid English
[Lun English]
Home in 1900: North Bergen, Hudson, New Jersey
Age: 30
Birth Date: Apr 1870
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1896
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Spouse's Name: Carmine
Marriage year: 1894
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 6

Residence : North Bergen Township, Hudson, New Jersey
Occupation: View on Image

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Household Members: Name Age
Lunaid English
30
Carmine English
24
Lundey English
1

If yes, that meaning that also Giovanni was in NJ and the handwriting on the ship's manifest -final destination- well is NJ and not NY!

by censuses, John ( that in 1920 and in 1930 using English as surname instead of Inglese) declaring different immigration year: 1899-1900; naturalized in 1914....
John was born in the 27 Aug 1874
http://s6.imagestime.com/out.php/i401936_inglese.jpg

Censuses:
1910 United States Federal Census about John Inglese
Name: John Inglese
Age in 1910: 34
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1876
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's Name: Carmela
Home in 1910: North Bergen Ward 1, Hudson, New Jersey

Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
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Household Members: Name Age
John Inglese
34
Carmela Inglese
35
Leonard Inglese
7
Nicolo Inglese
5
Gaetana Inglese
2


1920 United States Federal Census about John English
Name: John English
Home in 1920: North Bergen Ward 1, Hudson, New Jersey
Age: 42 years

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1878
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married

Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1899
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 176
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Household Members: Name Age
John English
42
Catherine English
36
Leonard English
18
Nicholas English
16
Augusta English
11
John English
6
Philomena English
3 10/12
Nancy English
1 10/12


1930 United States Federal Census about John English
Name: John English
Home in 1930: West New York, Hudson, New Jersey
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Age: 56

Estimated Birth Year: abt 1874
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Catherine
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:
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Household Members: Name Age
John English
56
Catherine English
46
Nicholas English
25
Philomenia English
14
Nancy English
12
Anna English
7
Gussie English
5
Carmen English
2 7/12
John English
16

Henry Freed
26
If this censuses are correct.. the wife changed the first name in Catherine..(??)...

I cannot find the census of 1900 abt Giovanni Inglese...

It is impossible to determine by US records if the Giovanni Inglese that you are searching for, it is the son of Nicola Maria Inglese and Maria Gaetana di Lallo; maybe by death certificate it could be possible to find the parent's names..... as a well for Leonardo...

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Re: Looking for Giovanni Inglese, circa 1900 in NY/NJ

Postby JohnArmellino » 13 Sep 2009, 03:06

Thank you, suanj, for all the information. I suspect that you have found the correct Giovanni Inglese. Perhaps I can find his birth record when my FHC reopens. If I'm really lucky, I'll find marriage notes in the margin. I still need to find the birth name of his wife Carmela. I notice that he named two of his children Nicola and Gaetana. This might indicate that he is in fact the son of Nicola Maria Inglese and Maria Gaetana di Lallo. Thanks again.
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Re: Looking for Giovanni Inglese, circa 1900 in NY/NJ

Postby suanj » 13 Sep 2009, 07:14

John, yes by birthdate you can have better idea... searching in the Campobasso births... I know not if could be possible to find some NJ births abt Giovanni children; maybe you can find also Carmela birth surname? Carmela declaring that she arrived in USA in the 1901 ... they married probably in North Bergen; the first child was born around 1903; so Giovanni and Carmela married around 1901-1903.... you can find the marriage note in Campobasso only if they sent the marriage certificate from USA in Campobasso, otherwise you not find it...
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Re: Looking for Giovanni Inglese, circa 1900 in NY/NJ

Postby JohnArmellino » 13 Sep 2009, 16:31

I do have the early 1900s baptism and marriage records from Madonna della Libera parish in WNY/North Bergen, so I'll check them on Tuesday. I'll have to get lucky with the marginalia, but I have seen quite a few USA marriages noted in the CB records, especially where the families kept in touch or traveled back and forth between Italy and the USA. Thanks again.
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Re: Looking for Giovanni Inglese, circa 1900 in NY/NJ

Postby suanj » 13 Sep 2009, 16:49

Great! I believe you will find!
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