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Angella and Genuardi

Postby anononon » 12 Sep 2009, 23:18

Hey, I'm looking for family history; my ancestors, their names, occupations, etc, and cousins/relatives alive today.

My grandfather's name was Joseph (Joe) Angella, I'm not sure if he was born in Italy or the U.S, but I do know that he was raised in NY and died in NY (the Bronx). He was half Sicilian and half Napoli, but I'm not sure which of his parents were which. His father's name was Pasquali Angella, and he died in Florida, and his wife, the mother of my grandpa, 's last name was Genuardi. I have an ancestor named Gina Genuardi, who was a musician or an actress (I think).

Angella may be difficult to find; I think it might have been a modified version of my g-grandfather's last name when he came to the U.S.

If you have questions just ask.

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Re: Angella and Genuardi

Postby vj » 12 Sep 2009, 23:23

Welcome to the Forum!
We'd be happy to help.
Valarie

Is this the correct record for your grandfather?

Name: Joseph Angella
SSN: 098-32-xxxx
Born: 25 May 1939
Died: 25 Apr 2002
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (1957-1958)
Last Residence: 10471 Bronx, Bronx, New York

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Re: Angella and Genuardi

Postby anononon » 12 Sep 2009, 23:26

Yep, that's it. :)

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Re: Angella and Genuardi

Postby vj » 12 Sep 2009, 23:28

Thanks!

Your great grandfather?

Name: Pasquale Angella
SSN: 066-09-xxxx
Born: 28 Sep 1914
Died: 7 Mar 2003
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)
Last Residence:
33319 Fort Lauderdale, Broward, Florida

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Re: Angella and Genuardi

Postby Biff83 » 12 Sep 2009, 23:29

Possible 1928 manifest for great grandfather Pasquale Angella with a Francesco and Giuseppe Angella
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Page 2

Year of birth: about 1914
Last residence and place of birth: Muro Lucano, province of Potenza
Nearest relative in Italy: Grandmother Caterina Iosilli

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Re: Angella and Genuardi

Postby vj » 12 Sep 2009, 23:44

Hey Biff!
Great record :D !
Can you figure out the relationship between Giuseppe, Francesco & Pasquale?
Valarie

same Giuseppe??

Name: Giuseppe Angella
SSN: 055-12-xxxx
Born: 15 Jul 1891
Died: Feb 1980
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)
Last Residence: 33021 Hollywood, Broward, Florida
Last Benefit: 33021 Hollywood, Broward, Florida

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Re: Angella and Genuardi

Postby anononon » 12 Sep 2009, 23:51

Ah, yes, it was Pasquale, not Pasquali.
And those records.... So cool! I saw many names I had not heard before.

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Re: Angella and Genuardi

Postby Biff83 » 13 Sep 2009, 00:03

vj wrote:Can you figure out the relationship between Giuseppe, Francesco & Pasquale?

same Giuseppe??

Name: Giuseppe Angella
SSN: 055-12-xxxx
Born: 15 Jul 1891
Died: Feb 1980
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)
Last Residence: 33021 Hollywood, Broward, Florida
Last Benefit: 33021 Hollywood, Broward, Florida


It looks like Francesco was the son of Giuseppe Angella and Caterina Iosilli based on the manifest information provided; but based on the ages, how could Caterina also be Pasquale's grandmother and how could Giuseppe be Pasquale's grandfather?

I'm guessing that the SSDI record for Giuseppe Angella is the same person as the one on the 1928 manifest.

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Re: Angella and Genuardi

Postby vj » 13 Sep 2009, 00:06

Hi!
Biff, I'm pretty sure that Francesco & Pasquale are brothers.
(the manifest is probably off by one line - Giuseppe's mother, Francesco & Pasquale's grandmother.
Giuseppe made quite a few trips between the US and Muro Lucano.
His wife was Angela.
At some point before 1942 she joined Giuseppe in NY.
Francesco & Pasquale, both apparently born in Muro Lucano, joined their father in 1928 (Biff's manifest find).
There's a family page for Francesco Angella (with picture) on ancestry :wink: .
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brother Francesco:

Name: Frank Angella
SSN: 117-07-xxxx
Born: 1 Sep 1911
Died: 28 Mar 2004
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)
Last Residence: 33021 Hollywood, Broward, Florida

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Re: Angella and Genuardi

Postby anononon » 13 Sep 2009, 00:16

Interesting stuffz.

Yeah, I vaguely remember now that Pat had a brother named "Frank," so the father must have been Giuseppi.

Have you found any info on the Genuardis?

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Re: Angella and Genuardi

Postby vj » 13 Sep 2009, 00:19

g-g-grandfather (?) Giuseppe Angella's WWII Card

1942 WWII Draft Registration Card

Giuseppe Angella
523 W 179th St (crossed out) NY NY
51 yrs old
born 15 Jul 1891 in Muro Lucano Italy
Mrs Angelina Angella at same address
emplyed by St Regis Hotel
55th St & 5th Ave

SSDI
Name: Angelina Angella
SSN: 262-41-xxxx
Born: 18 Oct 1888
Died: Feb 1979
State (Year) SSN issued: Florida (1973)
Last Residence: 33021 Hollywood, Broward, Florida
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anononon wrote:Have you found any info on the Genuardis?


No luck.
Can't locate a marriage record, death record or obituary.
Will probably need a first name...

g-grandmother Frances Genuardi (Pasquale's wife)?

Name: Frances Angella
SSN: 092-10-xxxx
Born: 3 May 1916
Died: 19 May 1990
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)
Last Residence: 33321 Fort Lauderdale, Broward, Florida, United States of America

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Re: Angella and Genuardi

Postby Biff83 » 13 Sep 2009, 00:33

1929 manifest for Caterina Jasilli Angella, line 13

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Page 2

Joining husband Giuseppe Angella in New York.
Previously in New York 1904-1910.

Valarie, Is it me or is this getting confusing?!

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Re: Angella and Genuardi

Postby vj » 13 Sep 2009, 00:44

Biff83 wrote:1929 manifest for Caterina Jasilli Angella, line 13

Page 1

Page 2

Joining husband Giuseppe Angella in New York.
Previously in New York 1904-1910.

Valarie, Is it me or is this getting confusing?!

Biff


It is confusing.
One of Giuseppe's manifests had Angelina as his wife...
I suppose it's possible that there was more than one Giuseppe Angella born in 1891 living in NY?

- Do we have a list of children's and grandchildren's names?

Valarie

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Re: Angella and Genuardi

Postby Biff83 » 13 Sep 2009, 00:46

This should clarify our confusion on Giuseppe's wife's name:

1938 manifest for Angela Caterina Iasilli Angella, line 8

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Page 2

Joining husband Giuseppe Angella. Previously in NY 1929-32.
Nearest relative in Italy: mother Carmela ?aura in Muro Lucano

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Re: Angella and Genuardi

Postby vj » 13 Sep 2009, 00:54

Great Job :D !


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