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Need help building my family tree

Postby gbatts » 27 Sep 2009, 06:00

I am trying to find out/confirm where my great great great grandparents came from and what the original spelling of the family name is.

My roadblock is the records were lost in 1906 earthquake/fire in San Francisco. What I have is the following:

Their names were Joseph (Giuseppe?) and Louisa Batteate. Loiusa's maiden name is Costello. If found a death announcement in the local paper that says Louisa died in 1887 at the age of 43 making birthdate ~1844, possibly in Genoa. I found a spelling of Battiati in a SF phone directory. They had a son named Anton Salvador who according to his petition for naturalization in 1924 says he was born in Genoa on June 13, 1872. It does not give a date for when he left Genoa, but says they arrived in SF in 1874, on the vessel San Francisco.

This conflicts with what Anton's brother Nicholas (my great great grandfather) wrote in the 1900 census. Nicholas says he (Nicholas) was born in 1870 in Brazil (family lore says it was on the boat), and landed in SF in 1871.

Any help is greatly appreciated. Are there some resources you could point me to?

Thank you in advance.

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Re: Need help building my family tree

Postby pink67 » 27 Sep 2009, 07:42

Hi Gbatts :D

Loiusa's maiden name is Costello.


I found an interesting 1880 census in San francisco...

1880 United States Federal Census
about Antoine Castello
Name: Antoine Castello
Home in 1880: San Francisco, San Francisco, California
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's Name: Antoinetta
Father's birthplace: Italy
Mother's birthplace: Italy
Neighbors: View others on page
Occupation: Fisherman
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
House Number: 4358016
Cannot read/write:

Blind:

Deaf and dumb:

Otherwise disabled:

Idiotic or insane: View image
Household Members: Name Age
Antoine Castello 32 born in IT
Antoinetta Castello 25 wife, born in IT
Angelus Castello 7 son, born in IT
Louis Castello 3 son, born in CA
Enrico Castello 1M - Dead -
Frank Guenzale 48 Bagmaker, born in Chile
Mamie Guenzale 13 daughter, born in CA
Francirco Embrie 20 boarder, born in Chile
John Barleola 42 occupation fisherman, born in IT
Regia Barleola 35 wife, born in IT
Amelia Barleola 15 daughter, born in IT
Peter Barleola 12 son, born in IT
Louis Barleola 10 son, born in Paraguay
Nicholas Barleola 8 son, born in Paraguay
Antoine Barleola 6 son, born in ITALY
Genoa Barleola 3 daughter, born in CA
Manuel Barleola 1 son, born in CA

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address was 30 Ohio street, San Francisco

Possible Antoine Castello (mispelt) was Louisa's brother....
Maybe Louisa real name was Regina? Do you know if Nicholas had siblings?

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Postby suanj » 27 Sep 2009, 09:12

I believe that Nicholas had other siblings:
California Death Index, 1940-1997
about John J Batteate
Name: John J Batteate
Social Security #: 0
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 1 Jan 1888 ( no : 1886)
Birthplace: California
Death Date: 3 Jul 1958
Death Place: Alameda
Mother's Maiden Name: Costello
Father's Surname: Batteate

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about John Joseph Batteate
Name: John Joseph Batteate ( address: Mint hotel; next of kin, sister : Mary Batteata Mint hotel)
City: San Francisco
County: San Francisco
State: California
Birth Date: 1 Apr 1886
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1543751

so was born in 1886

California Death Index, 1940-1997 about George P Batteate
Name: George P Batteate
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 15 Apr 1884 ( wrong birthyear)
Birthplace: California
Death Date: 2 Nov 1960
Death Place: Alameda
Mother's Maiden Name: Costello

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about George Joseph Phillip Batteate
Name: George Joseph Phillip Batteate; nearest: Ida Batteate in Mint hotel
City: San Francisco
County: San Francisco
State: California
Birth Date: 1878
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1543751
DraftBoard: 1

also in San Francisco orphanage , in 1900 was:

11 Batteate* Louise Inmate W F Feb 1893 7 S - - - Cal Italy Cal - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
12 Batteate* Eva Inmate W F May 1895 5 S - - - Cal Italy Cal - - - - - - - - - - - - - -
13 Batteate* Alvera Inmate W F May 1897 3 S - - - Cal Italy Cal

and:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Michael Roola Batteate
Name: Michael Roola Batteate (born in San Francisco-insane)
County: Mendocino
State: California
Birthplace: California;United States of America
Birth Date: 13 May 1887
Race: Caucasian (White)
FHL Roll Number: 1531201
DraftBoard: 0

that could be another brother of Nicholas....

I believe that around the 1880s was no much Batteate (spell: Battiati or Battisti??? ) in SF area....
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Postby pink67 » 27 Sep 2009, 09:22

Buondì Suanj!

just for reference:

1900 United States Federal Census
about Nicholas Batteate
Name: Nicholas Batteate
[Nicholas J Batteate]
Home in 1900: Brooklyn Precinct 2, Alameda, California
Age: 30
Birth Date: Jan 1870
Birthplace: Brazil
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1871
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Spouse's Name: Ida
Marriage year: 1892
Marital Status: Married
Years Married: 8
Residence : Brooklyn Town, Alameda, California
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Nicholas Batteate 30 head, born in brasil,
Ida Batteate 22 wiife, born in CA
Alfred J Batteate 7 son, born in CA
Mabel Batteate 5 daughter, born in CA
Walter N Batteate 3 son, born in cA
Lizzie Lavaroni 14 boarder, born in Ca (possible Ida 's sister as she too was a Leverone)

image:[img=http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/4453/battaitenichola1900ensu.th.jpg]

[quote=Suanj"]I believe that Nicholas had other siblings:
California Death Index, 1940-1997
about John J Batteate
Name: John J Batteate
Social Security #: 0
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 1 Jan 1888
Birthplace: California
Death Date: 3 Jul 1958
Death Place: Alameda
Mother's Maiden Name: Costello
Father's Surname: Batteate[/quote]

Suanj, if your date is correct (and i Think it's correct :D ) , then Gbatts has a wrong Louise's death record....

Gbatts wrote:If found a death announcement in the local paper that says Louisa died in 1887 at the age of 43 making birthdate ~1844, possibly in Genoa
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Postby pink67 » 27 Sep 2009, 10:28

Have you noticed that also in the 1910 census Nicholas stated he was born in Uruguay (for first) then corrected in South America?

1910 United States Federal Census
about Nicolas Bakeale
Name: Nicolas Bakeale
[Nicholas Baneate]
Age in 1910: 39
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1871
Birthplace: So Am
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's Name: Ida
Home in 1910: Oakland Ward 7, Alameda, California
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1871
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Nicolas Bakeale 39
Ida Bakeale 33
Alfred Bakeale 16
Mabel Bakeale 15
Walter Bakeale 13
Henry Bakeale 5

[img=http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/4410/battiatinichola1910cens.th.jpg]

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Postby suanj » 27 Sep 2009, 12:58

Hi Laura, really, John was born in 1886 by WWI draft reg. card


Louisa death:
Batteate, Louisa ... died in 1887 ... age 43 ... 1887D-218
Batteate, dau of N.J. ... born in 1895 ... SF1895-579
http://www.jwfgenresearch.com/SFCall/6900-09.htm
1890 SF directory: Anton, John, Peter BATTIATI, all fishermen
http://www.sfgenealogy.com/php/dbs/1890sfd.php?page=181

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Postby pink67 » 27 Sep 2009, 13:19

I believe the Family (Nicholas's parents) emigrated for first in South America, possibly Uruguay (my huband's grandfather did the same), then came back to Italy (Antohny was born in Italy on 1874 more or less) just for a few years or less and then re-emigrated to North America....
However if the right spell of the surname is Battiato is not a ligurian surname :?
in my opinion Louise's lastname was Castelli

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Postby suanj » 27 Sep 2009, 13:26

I believe that they was sicilians.... on footnote several articles abt Batteate in SF:
http://www.footnote.com/search.php?quer ... d=59778719
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Postby suanj » 27 Sep 2009, 13:31

Manuel???
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Pichino Manuel Battiate
Name: Pichino Manuel Battiate
County: Sonoma
State: California
Birth Date: 4 Jul 1876
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1544405
DraftBoard: 1
Age:

Occupation:

Nearest Relative:

Height/Build:

Color of Eyes/Hair:

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U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
about Manuel Battate
Name: Manuel Battate
Birth Place: S F, California
Residence: San Francisco, California
Race: White
Roll: WWII_2396100
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Postby pink67 » 27 Sep 2009, 13:35

Yes!! it must be Nicholas's brother... :D

there is a thing that makes me think...
from the 1880 census:

John Barleola 42 occupation fisherman, born in IT
Regia Barleola 35 wife, born in IT
Amelia Barleola 15 daughter, born in IT
Peter Barleola 12 son, born in IT
Louis Barleola 10 son, born in Paraguay
Nicholas Barleola 8 son, born in Paraguay
Antoine Barleola 6 son, born in ITALY
Genoa Barleola 3 daughter, born in CA
Manuel Barleola 1 son, born in CA


:lol:

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Postby PeterTimber » 27 Sep 2009, 13:38

Dear Laura Liguria has 6 towns listed with people surnamed BattiatO so I think that Battiate may be a mispelling.=Peter=
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Postby pink67 » 27 Sep 2009, 13:43

Yes, Peter, it's possible but I'm sure they are of sicilian origin...they possibly emigrated from Sicily to North of Italy in the 1960/70...

Battiato is a sicilian surname:

BATTIATA
BATTIATI
BATTIATO
Battiata, molto raro, è del trapanese, Battiati è siciliano ed è una forma meno diffusa di Battiato che è anch'esso tipico siciliano, del catanese in particolare, derivano tutti dal vocabolo dialettale siciliano vattiatu (battezzato, cristiano) usato per deffinire lo stato di cristiano, ma in alcuni casi potrebbero derivare dal toponimo Sant'Agata Li Battiati (CT).

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http://www.cognomiitaliani.org/cognomi/ ... 0002at.htm

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Postby pink67 » 27 Sep 2009, 13:52

1879 San Francisco Directory for a John Batiato, fisherman :!: living on 3 1329 Samson.....

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Postby suanj » 27 Sep 2009, 14:09

the old censuses are no very accurate ...
I believe that this 1900 census is abt the Costello ( here Castello) relatives of 1880 census:


1900 United States Federal Census
about Angelo Castello
Name: Angelo Castello
Home in 1900: San Francisco, San Francisco, California
Age: 26
Birth Date: Mar 1874

Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1898 wrong
Relationship to Head of House: Head
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Spouse's Name: Mollie
Marital Status: Married
Residence : San Francisco City, San Francisco, California
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Angelo Castello 26 IT mar 1874 head
Mollie Castello 26 wife
Antonieta Castello 50 IT feb 1860 mother
Luis Castello 21 CA nov 1878 brother
John Castello 19 CA may 1881 brother
Antinette Castello 3 CA sep 1898 daughter
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Postby pink67 » 27 Sep 2009, 14:27

Pink67 wrote:I found an interesting 1880 census in San francisco...

1880 United States Federal Census
about Antoine Castello
Name: Antoine Castello
Home in 1880: San Francisco, San Francisco, California
Age: 32
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1848
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of Household: Self (Head)
Spouse's Name: Antoinetta
Father's birthplace: Italy
Mother's birthplace: Italy
...
address was 30 Ohio street, San Francisco


San Francisco city Directory, 1881 for Anton Castello, same address, occupation fishdealer...
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