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Borelli, Seghetti, Passini, Ricci

Postby blessedone » 28 Sep 2009, 23:34

Hi,
I am looking for information on my Italian ancestor's who came to the Illinois area from Montese, Italy in the early 1900's. My great grandparents names were Pietro (Peter) and Teresa (Seghetti) Borelli. They had five children, one of whom died in infancy. I appreciate any help you may be able to offer to me. Take Care.

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Re: Borelli, Seghetti, Passini, Ricci

Postby wldspirit » 29 Sep 2009, 02:16

Can you confirm this record:


World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918

Name: Peter Borelli
County: Putnam
State: Illinois
Birth Date: 18 Mar 1884
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1614542
DraftBoard: 0

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U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942

Name: Peter Borelli
Birth Date: 28 Mar 1884
Birth Place: Montasi
Residence: Mark, Illinois
Race: White
Roll: 30955_164611

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Re: Borelli, Seghetti, Passini, Ricci

Postby wldspirit » 29 Sep 2009, 02:22

Census information:


1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Peter Borelli
Home in 1920: Granville, Putnam, Illinois
Age: 35 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Teresa
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1906
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Household Members:
Name Age
Peter Borelli 35
Teresa Borelli 28
Lina Borelli 10
Tullio Borelli 9
Nilda Borelli 6
Melina Borelli 1
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Re: Borelli, Seghetti, Passini, Ricci

Postby blessedone » 29 Sep 2009, 15:31

Thank you for this information. I am hoping to find a birth certificate for Peter Borelli next now that I know his birth place. How should I go about sending this request to Italy? Is there another way to learn about Peter's parents names or siblings he may have had?

Thanks so much for your help.
Blessings,
Jodi

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Re: Borelli, Seghetti, Passini, Ricci

Postby wldspirit » 29 Sep 2009, 17:02

If he naturalized, the name of his parents may be listed, Social Security App may also list this, church records can be another source.....and very often the manifest will list a parents name.

We have two different dates of birth listed, without the name of one or both parents, obtaining his birth record could end up being a mistaken identity..due to the naming traditions in Italy there could possibly be more than one Pietro with the same last name born during the month of March 1884.

By obtaining all US records first, you have a greater chance of locating precise information in Italy.

If Lina is in fact the first child born, I would say more than likely he was married here in the US, so obtaining marriage record would also help.

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Re: Borelli, Seghetti, Passini, Ricci

Postby wldspirit » 29 Sep 2009, 17:15

according to this manifest, he went to Toluca first, joining brother Giuseppe...
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New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Pietro Borelli
Arrival Date: 16 Jan 1905
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Age: 20
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Havre
Ethnicity/Race-
/Nationality: Italian (North) (Italian)
Ship Name: La Gascogne
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 13
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_528
Page Number: 97

Edit to add one page manifest, note line 7 as well.....unfortunately, the one page manifest does not list as much information as a two page manifest......he list Modena province , no town or parents, only the brother Giuseppe.....

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Re: Borelli, Seghetti, Passini, Ricci

Postby blessedone » 29 Sep 2009, 18:21

I have found the marriage certificate in Putnam County, Illinois. In the census' he is listed as being married, although the marriage certificate isn't dated until after all of the kids were born. So, actually they weren't married until after 1930. I found this to be interesting. I can't read either of their parents names on the certificate except for Peter's fathers name was indeed Pietro, also. I have pictures of both Peter's and Teresa's grave sites, but as for the actual birthdate all it says on it is "March 1884". Is there somewhere I can look for more information regarding relatives still in Italy? I really appreciate your help.

Oh, and yes Lena Passini was Peter and Teresa's first born.

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Re: Borelli, Seghetti, Passini, Ricci

Postby wldspirit » 29 Sep 2009, 18:51

Interesting census.....


1930 United States Federal Census
about Tullio Boroli
Name: Tullio Boroli
Home in 1930: Peru, Lasalle, Illinois
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Age: 19
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1911
Relation to Head of House: Son
Parent's Name: Theresa
Race: White

Household Members:
Name Age
Theresa Boroli 41
Tullio Boroli 19
Neldo Boroli 16
Melvin Boroli 11
Albert Biavati 11 Listed as step son....

Looking up info on town now....
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Re: Borelli, Seghetti, Passini, Ricci

Postby wldspirit » 29 Sep 2009, 18:55

Comune di MONTESE

Provincia di MODENA

Indirizzo : VIA PANORAMICA 60

C.A.P. : 41055

Telefono : 059 - 971119

Fax : 059 - 971100

If you have his fathers name, you can send a request to the above...

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Re: Borelli, Seghetti, Passini, Ricci

Postby wldspirit » 29 Sep 2009, 19:59

Another name to add:


New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Pietro Borelli
Arrival Date: 22 Oct 1906
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1888
Age: 18
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Havre
Ethnicity/Race-
/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: La Gascogne

Port of Arrival: New York, New York
NATIVITY: Modena
Line: 23
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_785
Birth Location: Modena
Page Number: 108

joining brother in law Faustino Nardi in Toluca, Ill.
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Re: Borelli, Seghetti, Passini, Ricci

Postby blessedone » 03 Oct 2009, 03:37

Thank you so much. I am putting together a letter to send to Italy now. I have checked on Ellis Island and have found more Borelli's that were going to Granville, Il. or Toluca, Il. I really think that these are also relatives. How helpful would it be for me to spend time finding Social Security numbers for the deceased relatives?


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