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family members from Potenza

Postby sherlock43 » 15 Oct 2009, 18:26

Looking for information on the families/origins of Michele Pietrafesa and wife Concetta Bruno who emigrated to NYC ca.1998 from Potenza in Basilicata; also Domenico Bruno from the same area.

In addition looking for Creazzo, who originated in Reggio, Calabria and emigrated to NYC ca.1900.

Thank you.

The above should, of course say they emigrated ca. 18[u]98, not 1998

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Re: family members from Potenza

Postby vj » 15 Oct 2009, 18:27

Welcome to the Forum!
Have you located any US records yet?
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Re: family members from Potenza

Postby sherlock43 » 15 Oct 2009, 18:36

Thank you so much for your speedy reply. Glad I did not leave the site too soon. I will certainly check the sites you suggested.

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Re: family members from Potenza

Postby sherlock43 » 15 Oct 2009, 18:41

I have made a correction - below - to the original post. Please pardon the confusion. [Must not rush!}



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sherlock43 wrote:Looking for information on the families/origins of Michele Pietrafesa and wife Concetta Bruno who emigrated to NYC ca.1998 from Potenza in Basilicata; also Domenico Bruno from the same area.

In addition looking for Creazzo, who originated in Reggio, Calabria and emigrated to NYC ca.1900.

Thank you.

The above should, of course say they emigrated ca. 1898, not 1998

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Re: family members from Potenza

Postby vj » 15 Oct 2009, 19:27

For everyone's reference, is this the correct family?
Thank you

from ancestry. com
possible 1910 census

Home in 1910:
500 116th Street, rents
Manhattan Ward 12, New York, New York

head Michele Pietrafesa 41, abt 1869 IT
- married 14 yrs, abt 1896
- immig 1897/9(?), Al
- carpenter, house
wife Concetta Pietrafesa 40, abt 1870 IT
- 5 children
- immig 1897/9(?)
daughter Antonetta Pietrafesa 13, abt 1897 IT
- immig 1897/9(?)
daughter Maria Pietrafesa 10, abt 1900 NY
son Michele Pietrafesa 5, abt 1905 NY
son Donato Pietrafesa 3, abt 1907 NY
daughter Eugenia Pietrafesa 2, abt 1908 NY

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Re: family members from Potenza

Postby sherlock43 » 15 Oct 2009, 19:34

That is them! Wow! Lightning fast and I thank you for that. I was just taking some information from another thread to see if I could try to get any records: marriage or births, for the ones born in Potenza. It will not help that I cannot write - or speak, for that matter - Italian.

Thanks again. Very exciting.

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Re: family members from Potenza

Postby vj » 15 Oct 2009, 19:38

Since their birth/marriage records were recorded in the comune (town), do you know if they were born in the comune of Potenza or the province of Potenza?

With the correct comune writing for records is easy with this interactive form letter:

Italian form letter generator with instructions:
http://www.circolocalabrese.org/resourc ... civile.asp

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Re: family members from Potenza

Postby sherlock43 » 15 Oct 2009, 19:41

I do not know. All any of us recall is them saying Potenza. I will try the address - and letter - you suggest.

Your help is much appreciated. W/o you I would be stuck on square 1.

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Re: family members from Potenza

Postby vj » 15 Oct 2009, 19:46

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Please hold on a bit with your letter.
More members should be around later tonight to help search.
We may be able to locate their ship manifest(s) or another document with a location...
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Re: family members from Potenza

Postby wldspirit » 15 Oct 2009, 19:46

Language is not a problem...there are numerous resources available for correspondence to suit any need you may have:

Italian Letter Writing Guide


A variety of form letters

Also, when you receive something in way of records, we have members here who would be more than happy to translate your documents or you can use the following guides:

Italian Extraction Guide

Italian Genealogical Word List

Latin Genealogical Word List

hope this helps,
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Re: family members from Potenza

Postby sherlock43 » 15 Oct 2009, 19:50

wldspirit - thank you, it does indeed help. I do have, by the way the ship they arrived in NYC on. I have to look it up again. Believe I found it on the Ellis Island site. The ship was the California [n], but, if I recall it only had the point of origin as Potenza.

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Re: family members from Potenza

Postby wldspirit » 15 Oct 2009, 19:53

Same family in 1930:


1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Michael Pietrafesa
Home in 1930: Bronx, Bronx, New York
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Age: 62
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1868
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Concetta
Race: White

Household Members:
Name Age
Michael Pietrafesa 62
Concetta Pietrafesa 61
Daniel Pietrafesa 23
Regina Pietrafesa 22
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Re: family members from Potenza

Postby vj » 15 Oct 2009, 19:53

Here you go
from ancestry. com
possible 1899 manifest

last residence Rionero

possibly
Rionero in Vulture, a comune in the province of Potenza, Basilicata

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Re: family members from Potenza

Postby wldspirit » 15 Oct 2009, 19:58

Possible 1920 census matching possible 1930 census:


1920 United States Federal Census

Name: Micheal Piertrofuss
[Michael Pietrafesa]
[Micheal Piertrofuso]
Home in 1920: Manhattan Assembly District 20, New York, New York
Age: 51 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1869
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Coucetta
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1888
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No

Household Members:
Name Age
Micheal Piertrofuss 51
Coucetta Piertrofuss 50
Micheal Piertrofuss 16
Donato Piertrofuss 13
Eugenia Piertrofuss 12
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Re: family members from Potenza

Postby vj » 15 Oct 2009, 20:01

Great finds wldspirit!
and neat links for understanding Italian records :D .
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If you want to try writing to Rionero in Vulture

Address:

Comune di Rionero in Vulture
Ufficio dello Stato Civile
Via Amedeo di Savoia 9
85028 Rionero in Vulture PZ
ITALY

http://www.tuttitalia.it/basilicata/91- ... n-vulture/


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