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Trouble finding marriage record and more...

Postby aruffalo » 27 Oct 2009, 00:57

Hello! This is my first post here, and I'm sure it won't be the last. I've been doing a lot of research on my father's side of the family and my gggrandfather, Vincenzo Francesco Ruffolo (or Ruffalo, depending on the document), who emigrated from Marano Marchesato, Cosenza and I am starting to get a bit frustrated.

The first main issue right now is finding record of my gggrandfather's marriage in Italy. From the information I have found, both he and my gggrandmother, Filomena Chiappetta, were born in Marano Marchesato so my first guess would be that they married there as well. The problem is that I can't find any record of it. Although I am not sure how I came across it, I thought that they were married in 1905, but now I am not so sure.

The second main issue is that I also can't seem to find the correct record of Filomena's emigration on the Ellis Island website. He was born in 1886 and she was born in 1887 if that helps.

I was wondering if anyone might have access to records that I don't or may have any information that might help me out in any way. I would be so extremely appreciative!! Thank you in advance :)

Angela

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Postby wldspirit » 27 Oct 2009, 03:56

The following link is to the Cosenza archives, containing vital records of historic interest: birth, marriage, death and military records.

Cosenza Archives

Also of interest:

Cosenza Exchange

Families from Marano Marchesato:

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Postby wldspirit » 27 Oct 2009, 04:01

Possible record of immigration, also looking at a few others.. :wink:


New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957

Name: Filomena Chiappetta
Arrival Date: 14 Sep 1909
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1887
Age: 22
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Napoli
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Europa
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
NATIVITY: Cosenza
Line: 16
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_1335
Birth Location: Cosenza
Birth Location Other: marano
Page Number: 93

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Postby wldspirit » 27 Oct 2009, 04:24

Death record of Filomena:
Helps confirm birth year, but not much else...

Wisconsin Death Index, 1959-1997

Name: Filomena Ruffalo
Age: 77
Sex: F (Female)
Birth Date: abt 1887
Death Date: 14 Aug 1964
Location: Keno (May be abbreviated)
Certificate: 023680
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Postby wldspirit » 27 Oct 2009, 04:36

According to the 1930 census, he was 21 at marriage and she was 20. He immigrated in 1908, she in 1909:


1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Vincenzo Ruffalo
Home in 1930: Kenosha, Kenosha, Wisconsin
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Age: 44
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Filmina
Race: White

Household Members:
Name Age
Vincenzo Ruffalo 44
Filmina Ruffalo 43
Bennie Ruffalo 19
Eugene Ruffalo 17
Frank Ruffalo 16
Arthur Ruffalo 12

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Re: Trouble finding marriage record and more...

Postby aruffalo » 27 Oct 2009, 17:35

Wldspirit WOW! Thank you so much!!! I looked and looked and could not come up with the correct passenger listing, but looks like you found it (I found the 1909 record but it said her age was 26 which didn't match)! The census information is also fantastic, thank you!

The families from Marano list was where I was able to verify when and where both were born, but only a couple of marriage records that *might* be them, and I'm not sure where to plug in the record numbers to find out for sure (I've listed them below).

1901 2 Marriage Ruffolo, Carmine and Russo, Petronilla Divina Marriage Record 3/16/1901, 1642126

1901 16 M Pellegrino, Vincenzo and Chiappetta, Teresa Marriage Record 10/20/1901, 1642126

Also, even though this site shows that both were born in MM, the Cosenza Archives don't show any record of either of them. Is this common or am I somehow not searching correctly?

Thank you again for your assistance wldspirit it is a HUGE help, and of course if anybody else has info, it would be appreciated.

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Postby suanj » 27 Oct 2009, 21:15

Filomena Chiappetta b. 12 Sep 1887
father: Francesco
mother: Carolina Filippelli

Vincenzo Francesco Ruffolo b.4 Mar 1886

father: Benedetto
mother: Benigna DeBartolo
abt the marriage, most probably they married around 1907... for marriage certificate you can write a letter in italian language, indicating the birthdates and the probable marriage year: abt 1907 in Marano Marchesato

no problem for the officer ...

the address is:
Ufficio di Stato Civile
Via Kennedy N. 20
87040 Marano Marchesato (CS)
Italy

Vincenzo imm. record:
First Name: Vincenzo
Last Name: Ruffolo
Ethnicity: Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Cosenza Marcus
Date of Arrival: Dec 10, 1908
Age at Arrival: 22y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Konigin Luise
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0013

pag 1 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0013
wife Filomena in Marano

pag 2 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0013
joining at Achille brother

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Re: Trouble finding marriage record and more...

Postby aruffalo » 28 Oct 2009, 02:35

Thank you so much suanj for the recommendation on marriage date. You all are great!

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Re: Trouble finding marriage record and more...

Postby skarabet » 16 Jun 2012, 03:55

Hello, my grandfather was Achille Ruffalo, brother of Vincenzo. My daughter and I have been researching the family tree and are looking for info on Vincenzo. I would be happy to exchange information with you on our family tree.

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Re: Trouble finding marriage record and more...

Postby LRuffalo » 01 Nov 2016, 19:13

skarabet wrote:Hello, my grandfather was Achille Ruffalo, brother of Vincenzo. My daughter and I have been researching the family tree and are looking for info on Vincenzo. I would be happy to exchange information with you on our family tree.



Hi my great-grandfather was Vincenzo - I would love any and all information you have or the other member @amruffalo has on any of the family members. Piecing together the past is the only way I can really get to know my dad Richard Ruffalo, son of Benedetto (Bennie). Thanks in advance. Message me anytime.

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Re: Trouble finding marriage record and more...

Postby LRuffalo » 01 Nov 2016, 19:15

suanj wrote:Filomena Chiappetta b. 12 Sep 1887
father: Francesco
mother: Carolina Filippelli

Vincenzo Francesco Ruffolo b.4 Mar 1886

father: Benedetto
mother: Benigna DeBartolo
abt the marriage, most probably they married around 1907... for marriage certificate you can write a letter in italian language, indicating the birthdates and the probable marriage year: abt 1907 in Marano Marchesato

no problem for the officer ...

the address is:
Ufficio di Stato Civile
Via Kennedy N. 20
87040 Marano Marchesato (CS)
Italy

Vincenzo imm. record:
First Name: Vincenzo
Last Name: Ruffolo
Ethnicity: Italian South
Last Place of Residence: Cosenza Marcus
Date of Arrival: Dec 10, 1908
Age at Arrival: 22y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Konigin Luise
Port of Departure: Naples
Manifest Line Number: 0013

pag 1 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0013
wife Filomena in Marano

pag 2 http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0013
joining at Achille brother

regards,
suanj






THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR PROVIDING THIS INFORMATION. I might be a few years to this entire discussion - but I thank you nonetheless!!

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Re: Trouble finding marriage record and more...

Postby suanj » 01 Nov 2016, 21:32

Great! After so many years, this my post still help!
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