Summo

[sirving]

I am looking for information Mary or Maria Summo who married Carlo Ronconi. Any info appreciated.

[vj]

Welcome to the Forum !
We would be happy to help.
Are you looking for US or Italian records.
Do you have any records yet (so we don't duplicate your research)
Where did they live?
Approx birth dates?
Children?
Thank you!
Valarie
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Is this the correct marriage record?

from the Westchester County NY Archives
http://www.westchestergov.com/wcarchives/default.htm

Last Name First Name Certificate No. Year

Ronconi Carlo 26789 1918
Summo Mary 26789 1918
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Does this look correct?

possible 1930 census

Home in 1930:
98 Fourth Street, owns $16,000
New Rochelle, Westchester, New York

head Carl Ronconi 33, abt 1897 IT
- married age 23, abt 1920
- foreman yard, lumber
- served in military WWI
- immig unknown
wife Mary Ronconi 30, abt 1900 IT
- married age 19, abt 1919
- immig unknown
daughter Dominica M Ronconi 7, abt 1923 NY
daughter Carmela Ronconi 5, abt 1925 NY

[sirving]

WOW, thank you! You have the right ones. I have seen the 1930 census record. But you got so much more so quickly. I have also seen the WWI draft card. But I could not find anything on marriage. There is nothing on her other than the census which I cannot understand. How did you find so much so fast. I have been an ancestry.com for a year and did not find the marriage info or the homeowner info??

[vj]

Hello!
NY has some terrific sites, when I noticed the likely Carlo and Mary in New Rochelle, I went to the Westchester Archives to look for a marriage record. (you can order the record from the Archives I think)
Here's the probable 1920 census. If Mary arrived in 1910, she was probably with her parents...
Valarie

possible 1920 census

Home in 1920:
251 Washington Ave, rents
New Rochelle Ward 4, Westchester, New York

head Carlo Boconi 23, abt 1897 IT
- immig 1913, Pa (filed 1st papers)
- chauffeur, mechanic
wife Mary Boconi 19, abt 1901 IT
- immig 1910
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note:
- homeowner/rent info is n the census page left side
- 1920 census found by looking for Carlo born in IT abt 1895 +/- 5 yrs in New Rochelle - no last name

[sirving]

Yes that is them!!!!! Do you have any tips for searching online for italian records?

[vj]

Very few Italian records are online.
If you know the comune (town) where the event (birth, marriage, death) took place, you can write to the comune for the record.
Or, in many cases, you can order microfilm from your nearest Family History Center to rent and view at the center.
Valarie

[vj]

Summa/o

Here's an interesting manifest with a possibly related Summa/o family headed to New Rochelle
They're from Avigliano, a comune in the province of Potenza, Basilicata

1912 manifest
page 2

2 Dec 1912, SS Stampalia, Napoli to NY
lines 24-30

Giuseppe Summa 48, abt 1864
- last residence Avigliano
- leaving brother Francesco in Avigliano
- in US previously, New Rochelle 1906-1912
- joining son Rocco Donato Summa at 245 Union Ave
- born in Avigliano
wife Domenica Maria Summa 45, abt 1867
daughter Carminella Summa 21, abt 1891
daughter Anna Maria Summa 18, abt 1894
son Angelo Summa 15, abt 1897
daughter Maria Ippolita Summa 13, abt 1899
son Salvatore Summa 8, abt 1904
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In 1920 it appears that this family may have lived on the same block (on the previous census page) as your Ronconi family
at 237 Washington Ave

1920 census
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And, in 1930 this family lived around the corner (on the previous census page) from your Ronconi family at 259 and 257 Washington Ave

1930 census

[sirving]

I think that you found them! I cant believe it. They have to be related. I have to sort through these records and give them a hard look but my gut says they are family. Thank you so much for your help. You just launced me forward. Sheila

[summaronald]

Summa/o

Here's an interesting manifest with a possibly related Summa/o family headed to New Rochelle
They're from Avigliano, a comune in the province of Potenza, Basilicata

1912 manifest
page 2

2 Dec 1912, SS Stampalia, Napoli to NY
lines 24-30

Giuseppe Summa 48, abt 1864
- last residence Avigliano
- leaving brother Francesco in Avigliano
- in US previously, New Rochelle 1906-1912
- joining son Rocco Donato Summa at 245 Union Ave
- born in Avigliano
wife Domenica Maria Summa 45, abt 1867
daughter Carminella Summa 21, abt 1891
daughter Anna Maria Summa 18, abt 1894
son Angelo Summa 15, abt 1897
daughter Maria Ippolita Summa 13, abt 1899
son Salvatore Summa 8, abt 1904
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In 1920 it appears that this family may have lived on the same block (on the previous census page) as your Ronconi family
at 237 Washington Ave

1920 census
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And, in 1930 this family lived around the corner (on the previous census page) from your Ronconi family at 259 and 257 Washington Ave

1930 census