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looking for Guiseppe D'Anna birth or siblings records

Postby mbirch1 » 12 Nov 2009, 20:43

I am new to this site and am impressed with how much info there is - and all the folks willing to help! I have been trying to get info about my grandfather Guiseppe D'Anna for some time. He was born in Monreale Sicily on March 17, 1883 or 84. He came to the US around 1900-1905 but I can't find the Ellis Island record for that first trip. I think he may have arrived under an assumed name. I did find two other times he went back to Sicily much later when he was 28 and 41 years old. The story goes that he was the only son of Guiseppe and ?, but had 11 sisters that stayed in Sicily. I haven't been able to find anything else. Can anyone guide me where to look? I sent to Italy for a birth certificate, but never received anything. Thanks. Margie D'Anna Birch

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Re: looking for Guiseppe D'Anna birth or siblings recor

Postby ricbru » 12 Nov 2009, 22:28

Hello,
here there is a Giuseppe D'Anna who was born on 1884, emigrating on 1912, he leaves his father Giuseppe in Monreale

see line 26

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0026

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0026

You can order an historical family certificate, so you can know all the 11 sisters names, to (write only in italian)

Comune
Ufficio di Stato civile
Piazza Vittorio Emanuele, n. 8
CAP 90046 Monreale (PA)
Italy

I hope it helps
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Re: looking for Guiseppe D'Anna birth or siblings recor

Postby mbirch1 » 12 Nov 2009, 22:59

Yes, that is him on that ship, I had found that before. But that wasn't the first time he came. He came for the first time about 8 or 10 years before, but I can't find that record.

Thanks for the info on the historical family certificate. I will try that. I would love to get more info about the sisters and their families. Do you think I can also get his birth certificate through the same address?

Grazie!
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Re: looking for Guiseppe D'Anna birth or siblings recor

Postby ricbru » 13 Nov 2009, 13:56

yes, thru the same address you can get his birth certificate.
Request the integral copy from his real birth record, it has more infos than a regular abstract certificate
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Re: looking for Guiseppe D'Anna birth or siblings recor

Postby pink67 » 13 Nov 2009, 18:31

This is an interesting arrival manifest that you probably already have:

1909 arrival for Giuseppe D'Anna's wife Rosalia Madonia and her daughter Paola Maria D'Anna

page 1:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0023
page 2:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0023

them both stated they were joining their husband/father Giuseppe D'Anna in 30 Prince Street - NYC... Rosalia stated she was in the U.S. before, from 1903 to 1913 and Paola Maria was born in NYC.

What about this 1909 arrival manifest for Paola Castagna, female, married, age 47 (approx. birth year 1862) coming from Monreale, travelling with her daughters D'Anna Crocifissa age 19, D'Anna Antonina age 13, D'Anna Maria age 9, leaving in Italy (Monreale) another daughter D'Anna Maria and joining her husband D'Anna Giuseppe in NYC - Elizabeth street ?

page 1:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0024

page 2:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0024

Do you know Giuseppe (jr)'s mother maiden name?

And... possible 1906 first arrival for Giuseppe?

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0028

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Re: looking for Guiseppe D'Anna birth or siblings recor

Postby pink67 » 13 Nov 2009, 18:45

Another related manifest?

January 1910:

Castagna Concetta age 48, married (maybe Concetta was her middle name?) travelling with D'Anna Magherita, age 28, married (her husband Romano Salvatore is listed the line above Concetta) travelling with her son Francesco Romano joining their husband and father d'Anna Giuseppe on 247 Elizabeth Street NYC..

page 1:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0020
page 2:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0020

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Re: looking for Guiseppe D'Anna birth or siblings recor

Postby pink67 » 13 Nov 2009, 18:56

Oh... yes... they are the right family.... :D

Look at this 1930 arrival manifest for:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Giuseppe Danna
Name: Giuseppe Danna
Arrival Date: 19 Jul 1930
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Age: 73
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Palermo, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Patria
Search Ship Database: View the Patria in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
NATIVITY: Italy
Line: 20
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_4780
Birth Location: Italy
Birth Location Other: monreale
Page Number: 212

page 1:
[img=http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/2073/dannagiuseppe1930page1.th.jpg]
page 2:
[img=http://img42.imageshack.us/img42/4929/dannagiuseppe1930page2.th.jpg]


occupation Butcher, leaving in Italy his wife Castagna Concetta :!: and joining his son Giuseppe D'Anna living on 30 Prince Street NYC :!:
So, maybe the parents came back to Italy....

Laura :D

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Re: looking for Guiseppe D'Anna birth or siblings recor

Postby mbirch1 » 13 Nov 2009, 19:42

OMG! You are wonderful!!!! This is the information I have been searching for! I knew that my grandfather had an extensive family from Monreale (I was told 11 sisters) but I didn't know any of their names. This is definitely them! My father and grandfather lived on Prince St. for many years, in fact that is where my father was born. His father had a buther shop there at 30 Prince St. and my father took over running it later. So you found my great-grandparents and my father's aunts and uncles! Can I send you a bottle of champagne?! Also, Rosalia Madonia was my father's mother, and his oldest sister was Paola (they called her Pauline). The story goes that Guiseppe came to the US to make his fortune then was going back to Italy. But he met and married Rosalia in NY. He sent her back to italy later with their first child Paola and he was supposed to follow. But Rosalia didn't like living with her husbands family and all his sisters, so she came back to the US without telling him she was leaving. That is probably the first manifest you found of Rosalia traveling with Paola. And Concetta Castagna is probably my father's paternal grandmother, who I never had a name for. This is fabulous! THANK YOU SO MUCH!

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Re: looking for Guiseppe D'Anna birth or siblings recor

Postby pink67 » 13 Nov 2009, 20:33

You're very welcome Margie! :D

I'm happy I was able to help you with your research....
Some other details:

from the free site:
http://www.italiangen.org/VRECLIST.stm

the marriage dates for Giuseppe d'Anna and Rosalia Madonia:

Surname Danna
Given Name Giusepipe
Month of Marriage Jul
Day of Marriage 27
Year of Marriage 1911
County Manhattan
Certificate Number 17679

Surname Madonia
Given Name Rosalia
Month of Marriage Jul
Day of Marriage 27
Year of Marriage 1911
County Manhattan
Certificate Number 17679

From Ancestry.com the 1930 census:

1930 United States Federal Census
about Joseph Diana
Name: Joseph Diana last name mispelled
Home in 1930: Manhattan, New York, New York
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Age: 47
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1883
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Rose
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Diana 47 head, born in IT, married at the age of 26, immigr. year 1903, occupation butcher
Rose Diana 40 wife, born in IT, married at the age of 19, immigr. year 1903
Pauline Diana 18 daughter, born in NY
Margaret Diana 13 daughter, born in NY
Joseph Diana 7 son, born in NY

address: 19 Prince street.
there are incongruences on the date of first arrivals but it was very common..

image:
[img=http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4412/dannajoseph1930census.th.jpg]

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edit to add details:

from Ancestry.com:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Giuseppe Danna
Name: Giuseppe Danna
City: Manhattan
County: New York
State: New York
Birth Date: 17 Mar 1883
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1765677
DraftBoard: 95

Address: 27 Prince Street...

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Re: looking for Guiseppe D'Anna birth or siblings recor

Postby pink67 » 13 Nov 2009, 20:58

Want to show you this interesting 1910 census manifest....
possible it's the family of Giuseppe (senior)...

1910 United States Federal Census
about Joseph Dana
Name: Joseph Dana
Age in 1910: 53
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1857
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's Name: Paula
Home in 1910: Manhattan Ward 14, New York, New York
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1905
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Joseph Dana 53 head, born in IT, married since 28 years, year of immigr. 1908, butcher
Paula Dana 48 wife, born in IT, married since 28 years, mother of 13 children among whom only 5 living, immigr. year 1909
Crucifixo Dana 20 daughter, single, born in IT, immigr. year 1909
Annie Dana 15 daughter, single, born in IT, immigr. year 1909
Mary Dana 11 daughter, single, born in IT, immigr. year 1909
Joseph Dana 26 son, single, born in IT, immig. year 1906, occupation butcher
Margarite Romano 23 daughter, married, born in IT, immigr. year 1909
Fraser Romano 5/12 grandson, born in IT
Mary Gertarena 47 cousin, single, born in IT

image:
[img=http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/3378/dannagiuseppesenior1910.th.jpg]

address: 24? Prince street :!:

It''s the family!

and the married daugther Margaret is:

Castagna Concetta age 48, married (maybe Concetta was her middle name?) travelling with D'Anna Magherita, age 28, married (her husband Romano Salvatore is listed the line above Concetta) travelling with her son Francesco Romano joining their husband and father d'Anna Giuseppe on 247 Elizabeth Street NYC..


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Re: looking for Guiseppe D'Anna birth or siblings recor

Postby pink67 » 13 Nov 2009, 21:09

Possible marriage dates for Joseph (jr)'s sister?

D'Anna Crocefissa Sep 12 1911 Certificate number: 21825 County Manhattan
groom was:
Blancato Luigi Sep 12 1911 Certificate number: 21825 County Manhattan

Laura

I'm adding:

Louis (Crocifissa's husband) military enlistment for the First World War:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Louis Blancato
Name: Louis Blancato
City: Bronx
County: Bronx
State: New York
Birth Date: 21 Feb 1885
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1754126
DraftBoard: 17

nearest relative: Crosefissa Blancato, address was 600 Oak Tree Place, Louis's occupation musician, Royal theatre - East 149 th street?

[img=http://img188.imageshack.us/img188/4926/blancatolouiswwi.th.jpg]

and the same document for the Second World War:

U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
about Louis Blancato
Name: Louis Blancato
Birth Date: 21 Feb 1885
Birth Place: Sortino (Siracusa Province - Sicily region)
Residence: Bx, New York
Race: White
Roll: WWII_2372718
[img=http://img121.imageshack.us/img121/5255/blancatowwii.th.jpg]

nearest relative: his daughter Josephine Blancato....
this is because his wife Crocifissa died on 1940:

Surname Blancato
Given Name Crocifissa
Age 50 y
Month May
Day 9
Year 1940
Certificate Number 10571
County Manhattan

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Re: looking for Guiseppe D'Anna birth or siblings recor

Postby pink67 » 13 Nov 2009, 21:40

Margie,

the first son of Crocifissa and Luigi Blancato died on 1994 in California

California Death Index, 1940-1997
about Ignatius Blancato
Name: Ignatius Blancato
Social Security
Sex: MALE
Birth Date: 30 Jun 1912
Birthplace: New York
Death Date: 19 Jun 1994
Death Place: San Diego
Mother's Maiden Name: Dana

Laura

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Re: looking for Guiseppe D'Anna birth or siblings recor

Postby mbirch1 » 13 Nov 2009, 23:46

This is unbelieveable! How did you find all of this!? I can't believe that I may have some other family in the US that I didn't know about. I thought they were all in Italy. The date I had for my grandfather's marriage to Rosalia was Sept 24, 1911. That is what came from St. Patrick's Cathedral in NY. Where did your info come from? Could it be when they got their marriage license from the state prior to the church wedding? Interesting that it was only 2 weeks prior to his sister Crosifina getting married.

I did find the 1930 census with the misspelled name. That is the first one my father was on because he was born in 1923. I also found a 1920 census also with a misspelled name. I found it by the address because they lived in the same place.

That also has to be the family that you found on the 1910 census. I had no idea that they were ever in the US. I thought only my grandfather Giuseppe came here. He originally lived at 30 Prince St., then moved to 19 Prince St. but I know they owned several buildings, so he probably had another house for his father and sisters. That is truely amazing. I can't thank you enough. I will be days tracking all this info down, but I love it!

Mille Grazie!!
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Re: looking for Guiseppe D'Anna birth or siblings recor

Postby pink67 » 14 Nov 2009, 07:08

mbirch1 wrote:The date I had for my grandfather's marriage to Rosalia was Sept 24, 1911. That is what came from St. Patrick's Cathedral in NY. Where did your info come from?


from here:

Pink67 wrote:Some other details:

from the free site, click here:
http://www.italiangen.org/VRECLIST.stm

the marriage dates for Giuseppe d'Anna and Rosalia Madonia:

Surname Danna
Given Name Giusepipe
Month of Marriage Jul
Day of Marriage 27
Year of Marriage 1911
County Manhattan
Certificate Number 17679

Surname Madonia
Given Name Rosalia
Month of Marriage Jul
Day of Marriage 27
Year of Marriage 1911
County Manhattan
Certificate Number 17679


mbirch1 wrote:Could it be when they got their marriage license from the state prior to the church wedding?


Yes, I believe that...

You can check the same free site I wrote above to search in these databases:

Vital Records:
New York City Death Index 1891-1948
New York City Groom
Consisting of:
Brooklyn 1864-1907
Manhattan 1866-1907
New York City Grooms All Boroughs 1908-1936

Suffolk County Marriage Index 1908-1935
Nassau County Marriage Index 1908-1935
New York City Births 8/13/2009
New York City Brides
Consisting of:
Brooklyn 1871-1917, and 1931-1937 9/23/09
Brooklyn 1914-1916
Bronx 1899-1937
Queens 1904-1937
Manhattan 1866-1937
Staten Island 1898-1937

I know you'll probably have now a lot of informations to digest :D , write here if you need help....

Laura

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Re: looking for Guiseppe D'Anna birth or siblings recor

Postby pink67 » 14 Nov 2009, 07:32

I forgot to post for you the censuses for Luigi/Louis Blancato and wife Crocifissa D'Anna:

1930 United States Federal Census
about Louis Blancato
Name: Louis Blancato
Home in 1930: Bronx, Bronx, New York
View Map
Age: 45
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1885
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Fanny
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Louis Blancato 45 head, born in IT, musician
Fanny Blancato 40 wife, born in IT,
Ignatis Blancato 17 son, born in NY
Angelo Blancato 16 son, born in NY
Josephine Blancato 14 daughter, born in NY
Fannie Gartenlaub 50 boarder

[img=http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/8120/blancatolouis1930.th.jpg]

and 1920 (mispelled!)

1920 United States Federal Census
about Louis Blonich
Name: Louis Blonich
[Louis Blonick]
Home in 1920: Bronx Assembly District 7, Bronx, New York
Age: 34 years
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1886
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's Name: Fannie
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1908
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 210
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Louis Blonich 34 head, born in IT, Naturalized, musician in a Theatre
Fannie Blonich 39 wife, born in IT
Nate Blonich 7 son, born in NY
Anger Blonich 6 son, born in NY
Joseph Blonich 4 daughter, born in NY

address 600 Oak Tree Place (same on the military Enlistment for the First World War for Luigi/Louis)

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