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Need help finding manifest for GGF ~1895 to NYC

Postby Rodio » 28 Nov 2009, 01:02

I am searching for the manifest for the ship that my GGF arrived to NYC. I suspect he had some brothers traveling with him, but I couldn't find the manifest when searching at the library some time ago.

His info:

Giuseppe Trama
born 1874, Rodio, Salerno, Italy
His US Naturalization Petition lists his date of entry into the US as May 1895 from Naples, Italy on SS Blanc Vigi.

Any information would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

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Re: Need help finding manifest for GGF ~1895 to NYC

Postby misbris » 28 Nov 2009, 01:29

Rodio is a frazione or section of the town of Pisciotta, Salerno Province.


http://www.ellisisland.org/search/passR ... 4165050120

This is the only possibility I found. Are you sure he came through NY?

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Re: Need help finding manifest for GGF ~1895 to NYC

Postby Rodio » 28 Nov 2009, 03:02

His naturalization petition lists NYC as port of entry. I do not have any other proof of this.

It likely is him--he was a coal miner in Hazelton, PA--even though his age is way off.

Thanks for your help.

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Re: Need help finding manifest for GGF ~1895 to NYC

Postby misbris » 28 Nov 2009, 03:13

Here is the manifest, unfortunately it doesn't give a lot of information.

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0030

Where did he settle when he got here?

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Re: Need help finding manifest for GGF ~1895 to NYC

Postby Rodio » 28 Nov 2009, 03:19

Thanks again--I edited the above post.

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Re: Need help finding manifest for GGF ~1895 to NYC

Postby PeterTimber » 28 Nov 2009, 03:20

He arrived on November 4, 1900 on the SS Patria destined to Hazelton at age 18. =Peter=
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Re: Need help finding manifest for GGF ~1895 to NYC

Postby Rodio » 28 Nov 2009, 03:27

Misbris_ Just thinking about this--It is possible that this is a cousin of my GGF, given that he listed Pisciotta instead of Rodio (there are several Tramas in both areas today), the large age discrepancy (his Italian birth cert as well as his marriage, naturalization and death records list either 1874 or 1875 as birth year), and that I do remember seeing my GGF on the 1900 census as a single man in Hazleton, PA. (The other ? Giuseppe Trama arrived in November 1900--I think it'd be unlikely he'd make it on that census.) Do you have access to the census records for 1900--to see the date they took that census in Hazleton?

Thanks for your help.

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Re: Need help finding manifest for GGF ~1895 to NYC

Postby PeterTimber » 28 Nov 2009, 03:39

All questions on 1900 census referred to June 1, 1900.

http://dir.genealogytoday.com/census/index.html


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Re: Need help finding manifest for GGF ~1895 to NYC

Postby Rodio » 28 Nov 2009, 03:51

There's a listing for a Giuseppe (Joseph) Trama on the 1900 census--I dont have ancestry access on my computer--can go to the library for this. I know the top of census records list the date they were taken--I need this date to figure out if the Giuseppe Trama on the Patria is my GGF.

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Re: Need help finding manifest for GGF ~1895 to NYC

Postby PeterTimber » 28 Nov 2009, 03:59

Availabiulity of census records about individuals can be found at www.census.gov.

Select census 1900 and zero in on Giuseppe Trama, Hazelton, Luzerne county Pernnsylvania. There may have been a late insertion into the census. Please keep us advised. =Peter=
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Postby misbris » 28 Nov 2009, 04:12

1900 census shows Joseph, John, and Neil Trama as boarders in Hazle Township, Luzerne PA. I don't do well trying to post from Ancestry, but here is the info.

Joseph----- born April 1872 immigration 1896
John--------born Oct. 1876 " " 1900
Neil---------born Jan. 1877 " " 1900

I don't know how John and Neil made the 1900 census, but they did. I'll look again for manifests with these dates.

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Re: Need help finding manifest for GGF ~1895 to NYC

Postby PeterTimber » 28 Nov 2009, 04:30

TheGiuseppe arriving in 1900 at age 18 would mak his birth year 1882. =Peter=
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Re: Need help finding manifest for GGF ~1895 to NYC

Postby Rodio » 28 Nov 2009, 04:58

The Joseph Trama on the 1900 census is more likely my GGF. His birth year is closer to his actual, as is his arrival date (1896). What is the date on the census record sheet for 1900?

Are there any other ports of entry that may have had a ship called "Blanc Vigi" or something similar for 1895?

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Re: Need help finding manifest for GGF ~1895 to NYC

Postby pink67 » 28 Nov 2009, 08:31

Misbris wrote:1900 census shows Joseph, John, and Neil Trama as boarders in Hazle Township, Luzerne PA. I don't do well trying to post from Ancestry, but here is the info.

Joseph----- born April 1872 immigration 1896
John--------born Oct. 1876 " " 1900
Neil---------born Jan. 1877 " " 1900

I don't know how John and Neil made the 1900 census, but they did. I'll look again for manifests with these dates.


here the census image Misbris found :D

1900 United States Federal Census
about Joseph Trama
Name: Joseph Trama
Home in 1900: Hazel, Luzerne, Pennsylvania
Age: 28
Birth Date: Apr 1872
Birthplace: Italy
Race: White
Ethnicity: American
Gender: Male
Immigration Year: 1896
Relationship to Head of House: Boarder
Father's Birthplace: Italy
Mother's Birthplace: Italy
Marital Status: Single
Residence : Hazle Township, Election Districts 3-4 & 12, Luzerne, Pennsylvania
Occupation: View on Image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Toney Decisso 35
Angelina Decisso 40
Nicola Gresta 37
Toney Mangrello 22
Sabato Mangrello 30
Joseph Trama 28
John Trama 23
Neil Trama 23

image:
[img=http://img177.imageshack.us/img177/9687/trama1900.th.jpg]

I believe Neil Trama should have been Aniello Trama, from Pisciotta, who arrived on April 23, 1900... he stated he was joining his cousins Francesco, Giuseppe and Stefano in Hazeltown.

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0017

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Re: Need help finding manifest for GGF ~1895 to NYC

Postby misbris » 28 Nov 2009, 13:52

Great find, Laura. :lol: Now if we can find Giuseppe :?


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