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Bartolones of Sicily

Postby jc4490 » 08 Dec 2009, 13:53

I am at a complete dead end here folks. I haven't been able to find anything about this person. When I had an Ancestry account, I found his arrival record and ship passenger list, but it was years ago and I never saved it. The person is:

Philip/Filip/Filipo Bartolone
b. 3or25 Mar 1889 in Sicily
d. 5 Aug 1972 in MI

I believe he arrived around 1915. He came with his future wife Josephine Riccabono (they were married in 1917) and as far as I know they went straight to Detroit. I do not have his parent's names, or legitimate proof of any siblings. I remember reading a newspaper clipping in my grandfather's stuff that mentioned a Camilla Bartolone in NY, and I think it mentioned her being Philip's sister. Also, he came over to America with a Sam (probably Saverio) Bartolone, so I assume that was his brother. I do not know what town in Sicily they came from, though.

Thanks in advance for any help.

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Re: Bartolones of Sicily

Postby ChrisMosca » 08 Dec 2009, 14:26

i found this on ancestry.com

Philip Bartolone
Born: 25 Mar 1889
Sicily
Died: Aug 1972
East Pointe, [county], Michigan, USA

Josephine Riccobono
Born: 10 Feb 1898 in Sicily
Died: 12 Jun 1988 in East Pointe, [county], Michigan, USA

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 about Philip Bartolone
Name: Philip Bartolone
City: Detroit
County: Wayne
State: Michigan
Birthplace: Bagheria, Italy
Birth Date: 25 Mar 1889
Race: Caucasian (White)
FHL Roll Number: 2023959
DraftBoard: 6

it looks like he was born in the comune of Bagheria in the province of Palermo in Sicily.

1930 United States Federal Census about Philip Bartolone
Name: Philip Bartolone
Home in 1930: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan
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Age: 40
Estimated birth year: abt 1890
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Josephine
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace:

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Household Members:
Name Age
Philip Bartolone 40
Josephine Bartolone 30
Carmen Bartolone 11
Justy Bartolone 9
Sam Bartolone 6
Joe Bartolone 6
Augustine Bartolone 5
Roseline Bartolone 3
John Bartolone 3/12
Rose Cali 15

could this be his arrival or maybe a visit?

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Filippo Bartolone
Name: Filippo Bartolone
Arrival Date: 30 May 1906
Estimated birth year: abt 1889
Age: 17
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Palermo, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Lazio
Search Ship Database: Search the Lazio in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 19
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_718
Page Number: 41

is this josephine's info?

Social Security Death Index about Josephine Bartolone
Name: Josephine Bartolone
SSN: 376-09-3708
Last Residence: 48021 Eastpointe, Macomb, Michigan, United States of America
Born: 10 Feb 1898
Died: 12 Jun 1988
State (Year) SSN issued: Michigan (Before 1951)

i hope this helps.
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Re: Bartolones of Sicily

Postby ChrisMosca » 08 Dec 2009, 14:30

this could be josephine's arrival?

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957 about Giuseppa Riccobono
Name: Giuseppa Riccobono
Arrival Date: 26 Dec 1913
Estimated birth year: abt 1896
Age: 17
Gender: Female
Port of Departure: Palermo, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Laura
Search Ship Database: Search the Laura in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
NATIVITY: Palermo
Line: 15
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_2244
Birth Location: Palermo
Birth Location Other: Palermo
Page Number: 128
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Re: Bartolones of Sicily

Postby Biff83 » 08 Dec 2009, 21:16

Chris' manifest find for Filippo Bartolone:

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0019

Note manifest marking for naturalization. The first number "8" above his occupation indicates that naturalization papers were filed in the Detroit MI office.

Last residence: Montemaggiore (Belsito) province of Palermo.
Destination: Chicago IL to join uncle Domenico.

Chris' 1930 census find shows a niece Rose Cali, born in Illinois, living with Filippo and family.
1930 census

Here's an interesting 1911 manifest for a Carmela Bartolone Cali.

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http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0028

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http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0028

Last residence: Montemaggiore
Destination: Chicago IL to join husband Tommaso Cali
Nearest relative in Italy: father Carmelo Bartolone

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Re: Bartolones of Sicily

Postby Biff83 » 08 Dec 2009, 22:10

1920 census for Thomas Cali and family

Name: Thomas Cali
Home in 1920: Freeport Ward 1, Stephenson, Illinois
Age: 38 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1882
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Carrie
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Own
Year of Immigration: 1908
Household Members: Name Age
Thomas Cali 38
Carrie Cali 33
Rose Cali 5
Roseline Cali 4
Carl Cali 1 10/12
Causim Cali 7
Anthony Cali 1/12
Samuel Bartalme (Bartolone), age 26, boarder

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Re: Bartolones of Sicily

Postby Biff83 » 09 Dec 2009, 00:36

1930 census for Samuel Bartolone

Name: Samuel Bartolone
Home in 1930: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
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Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Rose
Race: White
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Bartolone 37
Rose Bartolone 25
Rosalie Bartolone 8
Carmen Bartolone 6
Joanna Bartolone 5
Larence Bartolone 1 8/12
Anna Reris 21

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Re: Bartolones of Sicily

Postby suanj » 09 Dec 2009, 06:02

Biff83 wrote:1930 census for Samuel Bartolone

Name: Samuel Bartolone
Home in 1930: Chicago, Cook, Illinois
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Age: 37
Estimated birth year: abt 1893
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Rose
Race: White
Household Members: Name Age
Samuel Bartolone 37
Rose Bartolone 25
Rosalie Bartolone 8
Carmen Bartolone 6
Joanna Bartolone 5
Larence Bartolone 1 8/12
Anna Reris 21

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in adding the marriage record of Sam Bartolone:
Groom's name: Sam Bartolone
Groom's race or color (on document):
Groom's age: 25 years
Groom's birth year: 1896
Groom's birthplace: Italy
Bride's name: Rose Reris
Bride's race or color (on document):
Bride's age: 17 years
Bride's birth year: 1904
Bride's birthplace: Illinois
Marriage type:
Marriage date: 05 Jun 1921
Marriage place: Benton Harbor, Berrien, Michigan
Groom's father's name: Carmelo
Groom's mother's name: Magguire

Father of bride's name: Lorenzo
Mother of bride's name: Calandria
Marital status:
Groom's previous wife's name:
Bride's marital status:
Bride's previous husband's name:
Additional relatives:
Film number: 2342742
Frame number:
Digital GS number: 4210034
Image number: 441
Reference number: v 1 rn 116
Collection: Michigan Marriages 1868-1925


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Re: Bartolones of Sicily

Postby pink67 » 09 Dec 2009, 07:54

jc4490 wrote:Philip/Filip/Filipo Bartolone
b. 3or25 Mar 1889 in Sicily
d. 5 Aug 1972 in MI

I believe he arrived around 1915. He came with his future wife Josephine Riccabono (they were married in 1917) and as far as I know they went straight to Detroit.


this is a death certificate for their first daughter Rosalia Bartolone, born on July 15, 1917 dead on August 30, 1917

http://seekingmichigan.org/u?/p129401coll7,179421

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Re: Bartolones of Sicily

Postby jc4490 » 09 Dec 2009, 12:30

Oh my goodness! So many replies. Haha.

Chris, I am pretty sure that everything there is right. But I will have to make sure about Josephine. I was under the impression they came over together. Hmm...

Biff, I can barely read all that writing right in there by his occupation, and I have no idea what those numbers mean or what to do with them. Help? And thank you for all that info, I had known about the Calis but wasn't focusing on them at this time. However I had no idea about Sam, knowing about him and Philip's dad is very exciting!

suanj, thank you. My aunt just mentioned to me yesterday that there were Bartolones in Benton Harbor, and here you come with that information. Awesome!

I have to say that, so far, I am very impressed with this forum and how helpful you all have been. I will definitely recommend this to my family members who are also researching. Thanks again.

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Re: Bartolones of Sicily

Postby jc4490 » 09 Dec 2009, 12:36

pink, thank you as well. I mentioned Rosalia to my mother and she remembered hearing about it when she was younger.

suanj, could Sam's mother's name (Magguire) be a corruption of Montemiggiore? Philip, Sam, and Carmela's first daughters were all named Rosalia, so I'm assuming that that was their mother... Correct me if I'm wrong?

Edit: I meant that maybe Sam or someone made a mistake on that question. But now that I'm thinking about it, Rosalia would be Carmelo's mother's name most likely. But still, Magguire? Hmmm...

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Re: Bartolones of Sicily

Postby jc4490 » 09 Dec 2009, 16:11

Well, thanks to everyone's help, I am making some progress. I searched the LDS site for Carmelo Bartolone, and found one b. 29 Oct 1852 in Bagheria that is very likely the father of Filippo, Carmela, and Sam. Carmelo's parents are listed as Filippo Bartolone and Carmela Blando, haha. I am so happy. Every new person and generation gives me that much more contentment.

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Re: Bartolones of Sicily

Postby Biff83 » 09 Dec 2009, 18:04

jc4490 wrote:Biff, I can barely read all that writing right in there by his occupation, and I have no idea what those numbers mean or what to do with them. Help?


The following should help, particularly the section "In the Occupation Column."
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/Manifests/

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Re: Bartolones of Sicily

Postby jc4490 » 09 Dec 2009, 20:35

Thank you. =]

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Re: Bartolones of Sicily

Postby ChrisMosca » 10 Dec 2009, 01:35

here is his world war I draft registration card


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Re: Bartolones of Sicily

Postby jc4490 » 27 Nov 2010, 01:37

Thank you all again so much for your help.


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