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Riccabono Surname

Postby jc4490 » 25 Dec 2009, 04:47

Hello. I am having trouble finding my ancestor Josephine Riccabono. I know her exact birth date which is 15 Feb 1898. However, I cant find her in any ship manifests, as I believe she came over from Sicily. Which leads me to think about name changes. These are my ideas: Guiseppa or Guiseppina or some other diminutive of that name for Josephine; and just Ricca, Ricco, or Ricci for her last name. Her and her husbands second born son was named Justin, and their second born daughter was Annabella/e. Also, she may have been born in the United States, because I cannot find any evidence that she came over legally. Please I am desperately looking for help on this, as this is my great-grandmother. Thank you so much in advance for any help.

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Re: Riccabono Surname

Postby eyetalgal » 25 Dec 2009, 05:38

Is Riccobono her married name? She probably would have traveled under her maiden name if she came from Italy or Sicily. What is her husband's name?

It helps to know where the family settled, to perhaps find them in the census and get an immigration year from that.

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Postby jc4490 » 25 Dec 2009, 08:18

I'm sorry. She married Philip Bartolone b. and they were settled in Detroit before 1930 but probably after 1920.

A while agoI found this website: http://sites.google.com/site/palermobirths/home via a web search for sicily births. Oddly enough, I looked through and found this:

Surname: Riccobono
Newborn: Francesca
Father: Antonio
Mother: Rosalia Mazzara
Birth date: 15 2 1898
District: Ufficio

I know I'm being really hopeful, but wouldn't it be a huge coincidence that a female Riccobono was born in Sicily on the same day as my great-grandmother? Maybe she had more than one name or simply wanted to be different when coming over to America? I do not know but I am off to see if this leads anywhere.

Edit: According to her social security death index record, her birthday is 10 Feb, not 15 Feb, but the family says it was the 15th... Hmmm...

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Postby wldspirit » 25 Dec 2009, 08:39

Possible 1930 census:


1930 United States Federal Census

Name: Josephine Bartolone
Home in 1930: Detroit, Wayne, Michigan
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Age: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1900
Relation to Head of House: Wife
Spouse's name: Philip
Race: White

Household Members:
Name Age
Philip Bartolone 40
Josephine Bartolone 30
Carmen Bartolone 11
Justy Bartolone 9
Sam Bartolone 6
Joe Bartolone 6
Augustine Bartolone 5
Roseline Bartolone 3
John Bartolone 3/12
Rose Cali 15

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Postby wldspirit » 25 Dec 2009, 08:48

Have you sent for her death certificate? Family may have listed exact place of birth, maiden name could also be included in it's correct form:


Michigan Deaths, 1971-1996

Name: Josephine Bartolone
Birth Date: 15 Feb 1998
Death Date: 12 Jun 1988
Gender: Female
Residence: East Point, Macomb, Michigan
Place of Death: Harrison, Macomb, Michigan

If this is in fact the right person, there is naturalization records available:


U.S. Naturalization Records Indexes, 1794-1995

Name: Josephine Bartolone
Birth Date: 15 Feb 1899
State: Michigan
Locality, Court: Detroit, District Court
Title: Index Cards to Naturalization Petitions for the U.S. District Court for the Eastern District of Michigan, Southern Division, Detroit, 1907-1995
Description: B-630 Braidy, Sylvie-B-635 Barton, Janet
Series: M1917

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Re: Riccabono Surname

Postby jc4490 » 25 Dec 2009, 09:02

wldspirit, both of those records are correct. And no, I did not even think about doing that. Wow. Thank you. I guess I will get on that as soon as possible.

By the way, Merry Christmas everyone. Thanks again.

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Postby wldspirit » 25 Dec 2009, 09:09

No problem.... :) I'm going to check another database to see if they have the actual application for naturalization.....this is something you are going to want as well..
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Postby suanj » 25 Dec 2009, 17:18

Hi,
Filippo Bartolone was born in Bagheria, Sicily, IT; in WWI draft registration card next of kin was: wife, father and mother in Italy:
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Philip Bartolone
Name: Philip Bartolone
City: Detroit
County: Wayne
State: Michigan
Birthplace: Italy
Birth Date: 25 Mar 1889
Race: Caucasian (White)
FHL Roll Number: 2023959
DraftBoard: 6

http://s6.imagestime.com/out.php/i44627 ... tolone.jpg
by 1930 census, Filippo seeming immigrated in 1910 and Giuseppina in 1914, so because Philip declaring that the wife was in Italy ... seeming to me a mystery the Josephine arrival....
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Re: Riccabono Surname

Postby vj » 25 Dec 2009, 19:16

Hello!
There's a bit more information here that may help
Valarie

previous post
http://italiangenealogy.tardio.com/Foru ... 14598.html

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Re: Riccabono Surname

Postby jc4490 » 26 Dec 2009, 00:22

vj, that was my other thread. LOL. But thank you.

wld, can i send away for that record as well? As to the link you posted, it just leads to a little notecard with her name on it... is that what its supposed to be?

Thank you all for your help so far.

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Re: Riccabono Surname

Postby jc4490 » 27 Dec 2009, 20:04

Okay. I've found something out. According to the 1930 census, Josephine/Guiseppina emigrated here in 1914. She married Filippo/Philip when she was 17, so that would be appr. 1915. However, since it was so quick after she arrived, I'm guessing they were engaged beforehand. My hope is that someone out there can help me, because I cannot afford to pay for Ancestry... Thank you so much in advance...

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Re: Riccabono Surname

Postby wldspirit » 29 Dec 2009, 04:35

Using the information provided on the index card, you would send for the documentation to the following:

Michigan, Eastern District, Southern Division, Detroit, U.S. District Court: Index to Petitions, 1907-1995 (NARA Roll Series M1917)
For copies of the original file, write to:

National Archives-Great Lakes Region
7358 Pulaski Road
Chicago, IL 60629
Phone: 773-948-9001
fax: (773)948-9050
Email: chicago.archives@nara.gov
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Re: Riccabono Surname

Postby dominickd2 » 31 Dec 2009, 03:21

jc4490 wrote:A while agoI found this website: http://sites.google.com/site/palermobirths/home via a web search for sicily births.


Interesting site! I found an interesting name in there. Sarina di Mercurio, son of Salvatore di Mercurio. It says she was born in 1900. My great-grandfather's name is Salvatore di Mercurio, but he did not -- as far as I know -- have a daughter named Sarina. Perhaps she's related to another di Mercurio named Salvatore. Although, it's not impossible that Sarina is not a great-half-aunt of mine. My great-grandfather would have been 18 in 1900, so she could be a secret child or something. I doubt it, but it would be interesting. Could this Salvatore di Mercurio be the very same?

Surname: Di Mercurio
Newborn: Sarina
Father: Salvatore
Mother: Scola Maddallena
Birth date: April 1, 1900

Funny she was born on April's Fools Day... perhaps it is just a joke. Haha.


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