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Icolari Family

Postby jeanneicolari » 04 Jan 2010, 02:59

Hi, I am Jeanne Icolari from New York and are looking to build a family tree. I believe our family was from Avellino. Any Icolaris out there?
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Re: Icolari Family

Postby misbris » 04 Jan 2010, 03:28

Hi and welcome to the forum,

Icolari is a pretty rare name appearing in only 15 towns in Italy. Most are in the province of Benevento. Do you have any information on those who immigrated? Names, dates etc? Perhaps we can help you trace your ancestor.

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Re: Icolari Family

Postby jeanneicolari » 04 Jan 2010, 03:36

Thank you so much, that was fast!

My grandfather's family was from Benevento! I believe my grandfather was born here. His name was Alfonso Icolari. I will see what my brothers know about Benevento.

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Re: Icolari Family

Postby wldspirit » 04 Jan 2010, 05:04

From the WW1 draft registration:


World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918

Name: Alphonso Icolari
City: Brooklyn
County: Kings
State: New York
Birth Date: 13 Oct 1898
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1754615
DraftBoard: 82

I would provide the actual image of the record, however there is a problem with the image on Ancestry..... :?

Information from the SSDI:


Social Security Death Index

Name: Alfonso Icolari
SSN: xxxxx
Last Residence: 11416 Jamaica, Queens, New York, United States of America
Born: 13 Oct 1898
Died: 3 Mar 1989
State (Year) SSN issued: New York (Before 1951)
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Re: Icolari Family

Postby vj » 04 Jan 2010, 14:51

wldspirit wrote:From the WW1 draft registration:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918

Name: Alphonso Icolari
City: Brooklyn
County: Kings
State: New York
Birth Date: 13 Oct 1898
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1754615
DraftBoard: 82

I would provide the actual image of the record, however there is a problem with the image on Ancestry...


Here's the link to wldspirit's :D draft card find:
1918 WWI Card

You're right abt ancestry. com
Ever since they added the enhanced viewer you never know when the screen is going to freeze
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This may be Alfonso's parents
Same address as Vincent Icolari on Alfonso's 1918 WWI Card

possible 1920 census

Home in 1920:
15 Sherlock Place, owns
Brooklyn Assembly District 23, Kings, New York

head Vincent Icolari 51, abt 1869 IT
- immig 1900, Na 1904
- track work, railroad
wife Mary Icolari 39, abt 1881 IT
- immig 1902(?), Na 1904
son Dincent Icolari 13, abt 1907 NY
son Tone Icolari 7, abt 1913 IT(?)
daughter Rosa Icolari 4 6/12, abt 1915 NY

boarders:
Dond Farn 38
Barbara Tannotta 31
Joseph Roshire 26
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perhaps Vincenzo married twice?

children Tony & Rose born in NY
immig years 1909 & 1912...

possible 1930 census

Home in 1930:
1417 Herkimer Street, owns $9000
Brooklyn, Kings, New York

head Vincent Scolari (Icolari) 61, abt 1869 IT
- married age 45, abt 1914
- immig 1909, Na
- laborer, railroad
wife Mary Scolari 48, abt 1882 IT
- married age 32
- immig 1912 Na
son Tony Scolari 16, abt 1914 NY
daughter Rosie Scolari 14, abt 1916 NY

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Re: Icolari Family

Postby vj » 04 Jan 2010, 15:30

possible 1899 manifest

11 Mar 1899, SS Trojan Prince, Naples to NY

Vincenzo Scolari (Icolari) 31, abt 1868
- married
- last residence S Agata de Goti (Sant'Agata de' Goti, Benevento, Campania)
- destination NY
- joining cousin
- in US before 3 years and 1 year, since 1893 to1895 in New York

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Re: Icolari Family

Postby vj » 04 Jan 2010, 17:14

possible 1909 manifest
page 2

7 May 1909, SS Lazio, Naples to NY
line 9

Vincenzo Scolari (Icolari) 40, abt 1869
- married
- last residence Benevento S Agata
- in S Agata, wife Rosaria Ciervo
- destination Brooklyn
- in US before, 1905-1907 Brooklyn
- joining brother-in-law Francesco Virelli
- born in Bto, S Agata

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name mangled (again)
lined-off manifest (did not sail)
gaps in children's ages may indicate several trips to the US by father Vincenzo

possible 1910 manifest
page 2

7 Nov 1910, SS Duca Degli Abruzzi, Naples to NY
lines 25-29

Rosaria Ciervo 42, abt 1868
- last residence S. Agata G
- in S. Agata mother Maria
- destination Brooklyn
- joining husband Vincenzo Icolari at (?) Atlantic Ave
- born in S Agata G
daughter Rosa Manlari (Icolari) 18, abt 1892
son Alfonso Manlari (Icolari) 12, abt 1898
son Domenico Manlari (Icolari) 3, abt 1907

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Re: Icolari Family

Postby jeanneicolari » 04 Jan 2010, 17:33

Oh my,

THANK YOU ALL!

I did find the draft card and the SSDI about my grandfather and was able to print it. His father, Vincenzo, did marry twice, still trying to figure out that whole thing :?

I am sooo new to this but you obviously have it down to a science. Thank you again for everything.

I will keep playing and researching and learning the connections.

Blessings,
Jeanne

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Re: Icolari Family

Postby vj » 04 Jan 2010, 18:30

Jeanne,
I'm glad we could find some records for you.
Here's Alfonso & family in 1930
Valarie

possible 1930 census

Home in 1930:
1134 Herkimer Street, rents
Brooklyn, Kings, New York

head Alfonso Icolani 29, abt 1901 IT
- married age 22, abt 1920-3
- immig 1912, Na
- pasteurizer, milk
wife Jennie Icolani 28, abt 1902 NY
- married age 19, abt 1921
son Vincent Icolani 9, abt 1921 NY
son Ernest Icolani 6, abt 1924 NY
son Peter Icolani 3, abt 1927 NY
daughter Rose Icolani 1 9/12, abt 1928 NY

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Re: Icolari Family

Postby wldspirit » 04 Jan 2010, 18:32

You're right abt ancestry. com
Ever since they added the enhanced viewer you never know when the screen is going to freeze
Valarie


I even tried refreshing the page, logging in and out....still wouldn't work!!! :roll:
Thanks for providing the image Valarie!! :)
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Re: Icolari Family

Postby vj » 04 Jan 2010, 18:54

wldspirit :D , always happy to help out!
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jeanneicolari wrote:... His father, Vincenzo, did marry twice, still trying to figure out that whole thing...


Could this be Vincenzo's second marriage?
Perhaps Rosaria Ciervo never immigrated...

Surname/ Marriage Date/ Marriage Certificate/ Number County
Iculari Vincenzo Oct 27 1912 11229 (1912) Kings
Iannotta Maria A Oct 27 1912 11229 (1912) Kings

Ordering NYC Vital Records
New York City Archives

from NYC records by the Italian Genealogical Group
http://www.italiangen.org/

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Re: Icolari Family

Postby misbris » 04 Jan 2010, 20:27

Another possible trip for Vincenzo?

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0010

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Re: Icolari Family

Postby vj » 04 Jan 2010, 20:40

misbris wrote:Another possible trip for Vincenzo?

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0010


Hi mj :D !
Age & location are right
Considering the number of trips that Vincenzo appears to have made, it wouldn't be all that unusual to travel to Phila.
Nice to see his name starting with an 'I'
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