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Cirino family

Postby gmnewlook » 05 Jan 2010, 15:44

Hi there,

I'm new here. My name is Martin Cirino, I live in Montreal, Quebec and I am looking for info on my family roots. My wife and I are doing our family trees through ancestry.ca. My grandfather Antonio Cirino (1915-1983) came to Canada with his parents, Domenico Cirino (1874-1953) and Teresa Manocchio (1878-1953) in 1919. He married Thérèse Pagé at St-Arsène church in Montreal in 1938 and had three children (Pauline, b. 13-3-1939, my father, André, b. 27-7-1940 and Claude, b. 30-6-1941). Only my aunt and my father survived, Claude must have died when he was a baby, because neither my father or my aunt remember him.

My father married my mother, Denise Baron on May 10, 1969 and I was born Jan. 1st, 1972. I had my first daugther, Rose on July 9, 2002 with my ex, Martin Durand (we seperated in Sept. 2003) and married my wife Nathalie L'Écuyer on May 19, 2007, and our daugther Anne was born on April 28, 2008.

In my ancestry hints (leaves), it says that Domenico's father's name was Giuseppe and that he was born in 1857. It only shows his mother's first name, Giovanna. Teresa's parent's names, I got by accessing her brother's marriage certificate on ancestry.ca's copies of the Drouin Collection of Quebec church recors from 1620 to 1967. His name was Carmine Manocchio and he married Benedetta Todoro at Notre-Dame-du-Mont-Carmel church in Montreal on Oct. 11, 1915.

My grandfather also had a brother, Andrea (13-6-1912 - 4-9-1976) he was married to Assunta Piacente (17-3-1911 - 11-3-1985).

How can I go further in my research in my family tree and find out more about my ancestors? I was able to go as far back as the late 1500s, early 1600s for some branches of the family (Baron, Pagé, Gravel, etc), why can't I do the same for the Cirino side?

Please help!!! 8O

Thank you... :wink:

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Re: Cirino family

Postby PeterTimber » 05 Jan 2010, 15:59

If you go to www.familysearch.org under ancestor search put in Cirino and you will noticve that the Cirinoi surname extends back to the 1700's in Sicily and Brazil in a few listings. Rather than go on further perhaps youmight wish to dfigest this information and thenget back to discuss its posible Spanish/portuguese roots.=Peter=
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Postby gmnewlook » 05 Jan 2010, 16:31

PeterTimber wrote:If you go to www.familysearch.org under ancestor search put in Cirino and you will noticve that the Cirinoi surname extends back to the 1700's in Sicily and Brazil in a few listings. Rather than go on further perhaps youmight wish to dfigest this information and thenget back to discuss its posible Spanish/portuguese roots.=Peter=

Thanks,

Actually, if I remember correctly, my father did tell me that before being in Italy, the Cirinos or maybe Cirinoi came from Spain.

I'll check it out.

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Postby frankannunziato » 07 Aug 2010, 11:37

My mother's maiden name was Cirino, changed to Cerino in Ellis Island. Her father's name was Carissime Antonio. The family came to the US from Castel Vetere Su Calore, a village near Avellino. Mio nonno had an older sister named Giovannina, a younger brother named Salvatore, and two other sisters, Angelina, and Maria. Salvatore died before he married. My grandparents came to the USA in the early 1900s and then returned to Italy. They, and their children came back to the USA in the early 1920s, after Mussolini came to power. My mother's name was Luigia(Louise), her older brother was Francesco, her younger brother Giuseppe, and younger sister Maria Grazia. Maybe same of these names are common to your family. When my uncle Joe died, a Giusseppe Cirino showed up at his wake. He was a cousin to my grandfather, he said, and his family emigrated to one of the mountain states, Colorado I think.

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Postby gmnewlook » 07 Aug 2010, 12:46

The Giusseppe you mention that showed up at your uncle's wake, do you know or can you find out where he was living at the time?
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Re: Cirino family

Postby frankannunziato » 07 Aug 2010, 13:16

He wan living in the New Haven, Ct area then, around 1998.

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Postby suanj » 07 Aug 2010, 14:05

hi gmnewlook:
Teresa Manocchio arrived in Canada in 13 nov 1919, with sons Antonio and Andrea Cirino and joining at Domenico Cirino in Montreal, Canada;

She and children was born in Larino town as a well Domenico
( Campobasso province, Molise region, IT);
Domenico Cirino made sure a previous trip( 1908) in Canada; wife Teresa Manocchio in Larino joining at sister Maria Giuseppa Cirino in Montreal; he was in travel with Pardo Cirino nephew...:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Domenico Cirino
Name: Domenico Cirino
Arrival Date: 31 Mar 1908
Birth Year: abt 1874
Birth Location: Campobatto
Birth Location Other: larino
Age: 34

Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Brasile

you can find all civil records for Cirino and Manocchio lines, by LDS microfilms:
Registri dello stato civile di Larino (Campobasso), 1809-1900 Larino (Campobasso). Ufficio dello stato civile
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library ... umns=*,0,0
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Postby gmnewlook » 07 Aug 2010, 20:44

Thanks, but how do I look at those records?
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Postby suanj » 08 Aug 2010, 08:01

Hi,
what I found here the images:
the Teresa and children ship's manifest:
pag 1 http://img818.imageshack.us/img818/4364/teresa1.jpg
pag 2 http://img192.imageshack.us/img192/8242/teresa2.jpg

Domenico Cirino trips:
1904
First Name: Domenico
Last Name: Cirino
Ethnicity: Italy South
Last Place of Residence: Larmo (Larino)
Date of Arrival: May 05, 1904
Age at Arrival: 29y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Vincenzo Florio
Port of Departure: Napoli
Manifest Line Number: 0018

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0018

1907:
Border Crossings: From Canada to U.S., 1895-1956
about Domenico Cerino
Name: Domenico Cerino
Arrival Date: Dec 1907
Age: 33
Birth Date: abt 1874
Gender: Male

Port of Arrival: Montreal, Quebec, Canada


http://img580.imageshack.us/img580/8509 ... co1907.jpg


1908
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Domenico Cirino
Name: Domenico Cirino
Arrival Date: 31 Mar 1908
Birth Year: abt 1874
Birth Location: Campobatto
Birth Location Other: larino
Age: 34
Gender: Male

Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Brasile
pag 1 http://img641.imageshack.us/img641/963/domenico1.jpg
pag 2 http://img835.imageshack.us/img835/2075/domenico2.jpg

the same:

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Domenico Cirino
Name: Domenico Cirino
Gender: Male
Age: 34
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Date of Arrival: 31 Mar 1908
Vessel: Brasile

Search Ship Database: View the 'Brasile' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Roll: T-4699

http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/6865/domenico3.jpg

1916:

Canadian Passenger Lists, 1865-1935
about Dominico Cerino
Name: Dominico Cerino
Gender: Male
Age: 42
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Birth Country: Italy
Date of Arrival: 12 Oct 1916
Vessel: Canopic
Search Ship Database: View the 'Canopic' in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: Boston, Massachusetts
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Roll: T-4697


http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/1443 ... o19161.jpg



for to search in Mormon's microfilms you can order microfilm copies of the vital records for the your ancestor's towns from your local family history center of the mormon church.
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library ... et_fhc.asp

Film is about $3.50 a roll.

The proper way of obtaining microfilm from a Family History Center
1. You go to www.familysearch.org

2. Click on the tab on the top right called Library

3. Click on the words Family History Library Catalog

4. Click on the words Place Search and type in the town you are looking for. Then click the word search.

5. A list of the results will show up. (an example: Larino, Campobasso, Italia)

6. Click on the link you are looking for such a Larino, Campobasso, Italia
Vital Records.
A new page will appear where it will show all the films for Vital Records

7. Click on the link you want .

8. Click on View Film Notes and a list of the microfilm numbers will appear.

9. Click at the bottom of the page, For a printable copy, click hereand you will get a form to print out with all the film numbers.

10. Click print.



Ordering Microfilm

1. Now the FHC does not have all the microfilm in their possession.

2. You have to order the microfilm which takes 3-4 weeks for it to arrive.

3. It costs about $5.75 a roll for 30 days of viewing time.

4. If you need to renew the microfilm, it cost about $5.50 for another 60 days.

5. If you need to renew it after the 60 days, it will cost another $5.50 and the films can be kept on an indefinite bases.

6. Microfilm must be viewed at the FHC.

7. Copies are $0.35 a page.

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Postby suanj » 08 Aug 2010, 08:13

in the trip of 1908 Domenico joining at sister Maria Giuseppa Cirino in Montreal; here the sister trip with children:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Maria Giuseppe Cirino
Name: Maria Giuseppe Cirino
Arrival Date: 2 Jan 1907
Birth Year: abt 1859
Birth Location Other: larino
Age: 48
Gender: Female

Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Trieste Palermo
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Ship Name: Francesca
Search Ship Database: Search the Francesca in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database

http://img205.imageshack.us/img205/7065 ... cirino.jpg

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Postby gmnewlook » 08 Aug 2010, 12:56

Thanks again.

But for point 6: "Microfilm must be viewed at the FHC.", where is that?
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Postby suanj » 08 Aug 2010, 13:12

Family History Center ( FHC) of your area
http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library ... et_fhc.asp
in my previous post I said:
".. for to search in Mormon's microfilms you can order microfilm copies of the vital records for the your ancestor's towns from your local family history center of the mormon church. "
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So, I just have to find the nearest Mormon church in Montreal. Will they say anyhting since I am Catholic?
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Re: Cirino family

Postby KMaryP » 08 Aug 2010, 14:03

gmnewlook, Like you, I didn't know what a Family History Center was a week ago. I googled it and found one only 5 minutes from my home. I never knew it existed. It's a library within the Mormon church. I found the volunteers staffing it to be very welcoming and helpful. Good luck in your search.


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