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gizzi family, new york

Postby dragoni » 09 Jan 2010, 00:05

i thought i had located vincenzo gizzi, brother of my greatgrandmother. folks here had found a 1910, 1920 and 1930 census in chautauqua county, sheridan township, new york. subsequently i found a site and ordered the naturalization papers for this vincenzo gizzi. those papers identify he was born in opi, italy in 1870. i do know for certain from civil records that my gioacchino vincenzo gizzi was born in 1868 in gioia sannitica, italy and that he was going to williamstown new york when he came over (ellis island). the dates differences are not of great concern but opi is in abruzzo and gioia in caserta. williamstown is near utica which is a fair distance form sheridan. i think i may have found someone else's vincenzo gizzi.

could someone who has access check census records for 1910 or 1920 for the utica area to see if there is a vincenzo (or gioacchino vincenzo) gizzi? thanks.

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Re: gizzi family, new york

Postby johnnyonthespot » 09 Jan 2010, 02:44

dragoni wrote:...could someone who has access check census records for 1910 or 1920 for the utica area to see if there is a vincenzo (or gioacchino vincenzo) gizzi? thanks.

tommaso


Do you have any additional names of persons who might have been in the household during the 1920 and 1930 census?

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Re: gizzi family, new york

Postby dragoni » 09 Jan 2010, 05:02

i can't be sure as i was relying on my grandfather's 97 year old baby sister's memory . she thought his wife's name was angeline and perhaps a daughter named tressa (most likely teresa).

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Re: gizzi family, new york

Postby pink67 » 09 Jan 2010, 11:13

Possible 1930 census:

1930 United States Federal Census
about Vincent Gizzi
Name: Vincent Gizzi
Home in 1930: Sheridan, Chautauqua, New York
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Age: 62
Estimated birth year: abt 1868
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Angela M
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Vincent Gizzi 62 head, born in IT, immigr. year 1892, NA, farmer
Angela M Gizzi 58 wife, born in IT, immigr. year 1902, NA
Peter Gizzi 25 son, born in NY
Cedia Gizzi 21 daughter in law, born in IT, immigr. year 1913

address was Middle Road

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Re: gizzi family, new york

Postby pink67 » 09 Jan 2010, 11:27

Pink67 wrote:address was Middle Road


from the site:

http://www.fultonhistory.com/Newspapers ... ehtml&.pdf

The Fredonia Censor - January 11, 1935
VINCENT GIZZI DIES
Sheridan, January 8.— Mr.
Vincent Gizzi died on Friday
morning at his home on East
Middle road
- Funeral services
were held on Monday morning.

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Re: gizzi family, new york

Postby pink67 » 09 Jan 2010, 11:51

Tommaso..... :?

I believe I found something interesting....

Philadelphia Passenger Lists, 1800-1945
about Angela Pacelli
Name: Angela Pacelli
Arrival Date: 5 Jun 1913
Age: 39 Years
Estimated birth year: abt 1874
Gender: Female
Ethnic Background: Italian (South) (Italian)
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ship Name: Napoli
Port of Arrival: Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Friend's Name: Gerr Vincenzo (on the manifest: Gizzi Vincenzo)
Last Residence: Italy
Birthplace: Geoie, (on the manifest: Gioia)
Microfilm Roll Number: T840_115

Angela Pacelli, age 35, married, travelling with her two daughters, Maria Gizzi age 13 and Teresa Gizzi :!: age 6, leaving in Italy (Gioia) her father Antonio and joining her husband Vincenzo Gizzi in Camden NY? (819 south 4th street?).... Place of birth for both is Gioia (possible Sannitica)

page 1:
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page 2:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pq1nFUzJ

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Re: gizzi family, new york

Postby johnnyonthespot » 09 Jan 2010, 12:12

pink67 wrote:Tommaso..... :?

I believe I found something interesting....


Now that's what I call an understatement!

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Re: gizzi family, new york

Postby dragoni » 09 Jan 2010, 12:42

i believe the manifest is my vincenzo's wife. the sheridan census isn't him as that fellow, based on his naturalization papers, was born in the wrong italian town, opi in abruzzo. my vincenzo was definitely born in gioia.

not sure how the ancestry allows searching but the williamstown area of new york is the spot.

thanks.

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Re: gizzi family, new york

Postby dragoni » 09 Jan 2010, 12:48

i just finished looking at the manifest. more interesting information is there. angela was also travelling with a son raffaele. vincenzo's fathers name was raffaele - the naming tradition appears to be holding.

the destination also makes sense as my greatgrandfather, vincenzo's brothe rin law, was living in the camden nj area when he first arrived.

hopefully i will get lucky and someone will find a census for him.

thanks so much.

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Re: gizzi family, new york

Postby zona1 » 09 Jan 2010, 13:15

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Re: gizzi family, new york

Postby pink67 » 09 Jan 2010, 13:22

Yes, I overlooked Raffaele travelling with his mother and sisters...
On his line there is an important note for his naturalization... looks like he got it in Philadelphia??

I noticed it does exist also a Williamstown in NJ (Gloucester county)

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Re: gizzi family, new york

Postby pink67 » 09 Jan 2010, 13:27

Maybe the right one?

1930 United States Federal Census
about Vincent Gizzy
Name: Vincent Gizzy
Home in 1930: Philadelphia, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
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Age: 59
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Angela
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
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Household Members: Name Age
Vincent Gizzy 59 hed, born in IT, immigr. 1912
Angela Gizzy 54 wife, immigr. 1913
Rafael Gizzy 22 son, immigr. 1913
Filomina Gizzy 15 daughter, born in New Jersey :!:
Alfonse Gizzy 13 son, born in PA

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edit to add:

1920 United States Federal Census
about Vincent Gizzy
Name: Vincent Gizzy
Home in 1920: Philadelphia Ward 38, Philadelphia, Pennsylvania
Age: 49 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1871
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Angeline
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1911
Able to read: No
Able to Write: No
Image: 350
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Vincent Gizzy 49
Angeline Gizzy 43
Kenra Gizzy 14 (Teresa), daughter, born in IT
Raphael Gizzy 12 son, born in IT
Mamie Gizzy 7 daughter, born in PA
Alfonso Gizzy 2 daughter, born in PA

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Re: gizzi family, new york

Postby pink67 » 09 Jan 2010, 14:10

Selected U.S. Naturalization Records - Original Documents, 1790-1974 (World Archives Project) about Joachim Vincent Gizzi
Name: Joachim Vincent Gizzi
State: Pennsylvania
Court Type: District Court
Court Location: Eastern District, Pennsylvania
Naturalization Record Type: Petition for Naturalization
Naturalization Record Number: 41098
Roll Description: (Roll 189) Petition Nos. 40876-41165
Archive: National Archives, Washington, D.C.
Collection Title: Naturalization Petitions for the Eastern District of Pennsylvania, 1795-1930
Archive Series: M1522
Archive Roll: 189

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Re: gizzi family, new york

Postby dragoni » 09 Jan 2010, 15:41

laura:

mille grazie. that is my vincenzo gizzi, thank you so much. the williamstown, nj makes sense now as my grandfather's baby sister rosa identified a house in which she claims to have been born in williamstown nj.

another example of being doubly careful when doing research. after a couple of years of searching and receiving help, i was certain that the vincenzo gizzi from sheridan new york, married to maria angela, was my relative. to make as close to 100% certain as i could i ordered his naturalization papers. who'd of thunk...two vincenzo gizzis, one born in 1868 the other 1870, both married to an angela, both emigrating roughly the same time, and generally in the same geographic region of the country.

time to do some exploration in the new jersey area for other information. my greatgrandfather claimed to have been naturalized and i had written to every local court house and the new york federal one looking for his naturalization but noone had any record. could you search the database for philadelphia for me? his name was antonio domenico pacelli, wife name of maria apollonia gizzi, hometown dragoni. with the year (1901 in one place, 1902 in another) he cited on the census he would not have had any living children.

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Re: gizzi family, new york

Postby dragoni » 09 Jan 2010, 21:21

laura:

through what source were you able to search the philadelphia immigration records? and the naturalization records? thanks.

tommaso


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