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No family remaining in towns of origin?

Postby jt27 » 10 Feb 2010, 01:41

I'm planning a trip to Italy later this year, but when I searched for my ancestors' surnames in the Italian white pages, there are none in the original towns...is it common for entire families to leave a town over the years? I ran into this with nearly every surname.

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Re: No family remaining in towns of origin?

Postby Bette » 10 Feb 2010, 01:58

I will mention my own experience. In one family, all siblings moved to the US. Going back one generation to the mid 1800s, part of this family had moved to another town nearby, to change occupations, I suspect. Later, some members of this same family moved to a larger city not too far away. In another one of my families, just about all moved out of the original town, but they are still in the same Region. They definitely moved for occupational reasons. So, my recommendation would be to search in a little wider area, perhaps the province or the region. If the name is uncommon, you have a better chance of finding someone. One thing, for sure, if you know your family tree, you have a better chance of finding someone. It also pays to mention your family surnames, since someone reading your posts may have information for you. :) :D

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Re: No family remaining in towns of origin?

Postby misbris » 10 Feb 2010, 02:10

Some people
1. Don't have phones
2 Use cellphones (which are not listed)
3 Phone is in the name of the wife

Here is a site that will tell you if any people are left in the town.

http://italia.indettaglio.it/eng/cognomi/cognomi.html

Depending on the size and location of the town, many relocate because there is no work to be had. As Bette said, search the nearest big cities for possible family.

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Re: No family remaining in towns of origin?

Postby johnnyonthespot » 10 Feb 2010, 02:53

jt27 wrote:I'm planning a trip to Italy later this year, but when I searched for my ancestors' surnames in the Italian white pages, there are none in the original towns...is it common for entire families to leave a town over the years? I ran into this with nearly every surname.


In addition to other comments, you would be amazed at how many American-Italians don't know the correct Italian spelling of their surname. Simple changes like dropping or adding a doubled-consonant or turning Z's into S's (Pizanno vs Pizano vs Pizzano vs Pisano, for example) can mean the difference between finding or not finding relatives in Italy.

Would you care to share your surnames with us?
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Re: No family remaining in towns of origin?

Postby johnnyonthespot » 10 Feb 2010, 03:08

Using an example from one of your previous threads, while there are no Depetrillo's to be found in Italy today (and most likely never were), there are 94 listings for "De Petrillo" (with the space because "de" is a prefix).
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Re: No family remaining in towns of origin?

Postby jt27 » 10 Feb 2010, 18:45

Thank you for the insights! My surnames are Sorbo, Marrocco (or Morrocco), Gautieri and De Quattro. If anyone has any info, that would be awesome! I'll check out that link you gave for the Italian names too.

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Re: No family remaining in towns of origin?

Postby jt27 » 10 Feb 2010, 19:31

Bette wrote:I will mention my own experience. In one family, all siblings moved to the US. Going back one generation to the mid 1800s, part of this family had moved to another town nearby, to change occupations, I suspect. Later, some members of this same family moved to a larger city not too far away. In another one of my families, just about all moved out of the original town, but they are still in the same Region. They definitely moved for occupational reasons. So, my recommendation would be to search in a little wider area, perhaps the province or the region. If the name is uncommon, you have a better chance of finding someone. One thing, for sure, if you know your family tree, you have a better chance of finding someone. It also pays to mention your family surnames, since someone reading your posts may have information for you. :) :D


Bette, how did you go about tracing your family's moving within Italy?

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Re: No family remaining in towns of origin?

Postby misbris » 10 Feb 2010, 19:42

What town were they originally from?

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Re: No family remaining in towns of origin?

Postby jt27 » 10 Feb 2010, 20:08

The Sorbo's were from Teano (and its frazione San Marco); Marrocco and Gautieri were from Pietravairano. I'm assuming De Quattro was from Teano since my great-great grandmother, Columba De Quattro married Andrea Sorbo.

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Re: No family remaining in towns of origin?

Postby misbris » 10 Feb 2010, 20:35

Here are the number of people with those names in the towns. Unfortunately, that is it.

Marracco

8.46 Pietravairano Caserta

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Re: No family remaining in towns of origin?

Postby jt27 » 10 Feb 2010, 20:38

Well, you found more than I did! :D Thank you!

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Re: No family remaining in towns of origin?

Postby johnnyonthespot » 10 Feb 2010, 20:40

There is a dentist in Teano named Alfonso De Quattro. See white pages
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Re: No family remaining in towns of origin?

Postby johnnyonthespot » 10 Feb 2010, 20:41

Also, three Sorbo's (including another doctor!) and one De Sorbo in Teano. Click here.
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Re: No family remaining in towns of origin?

Postby johnnyonthespot » 10 Feb 2010, 20:49

There are a small number (14) of Gautieri's centered in a small area of the Campania region (which includes Pietravairano). As someone in central Italy once told me, if we have the same surname, it is very likely that we are related.

Click here for details.
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Re: No family remaining in towns of origin?

Postby johnnyonthespot » 10 Feb 2010, 21:03

I also found three Marrocco's in Pietravairano. Since the total population is only about 3,000, that is not an unreasonable number. Click here.

When including the entire province of Caserta, the number jumps to 35. Click here.
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