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Pandolfo ancestors

Postby chrisdamato » 28 Feb 2010, 15:57

Just found out my great great grandmother's name was Madelene Pandolfo. I have no birth or death records. Only that she was married to Nicola D'Amato. They had at least one child, Pietro, who was my great grandfather. He was born in 1879 in Sant'Arsenio, Italy.

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Postby sonopasquale » 28 Feb 2010, 16:12

Pandolfo was the Prince of Salerno in the late 9th century.
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Re: Pandolfo ancestors

Postby misbris » 28 Feb 2010, 16:30

Pandolfo is one of the 5 most common names in Sant' Arsenio.

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Re: Pandolfo ancestors

Postby chrisdamato » 01 Mar 2010, 01:05

Ok, Pandolfo and D'Amato are in the top 5. That's good.

Pandolfo was prince of Salerno? Now I just need to fill in the 1000 years in between! At least this is a start. I can't even find evidence that they came over to the US to visit their son.

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Re: Pandolfo ancestors

Postby misbris » 01 Mar 2010, 01:56

Have you seen this manifest? I think it might be Pietro's brother and his family.

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0017

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Re: Pandolfo ancestors

Postby PeterTimber » 01 Mar 2010, 03:14

Chrisdamato is Pietro an only child? You initially stated that they had Pietro who was your GGrandfather but now seems that there was more than one Pietro inthe family? =Peter=
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Re: Pandolfo ancestors

Postby chrisdamato » 01 Mar 2010, 16:37

I'm not exactly sure of any siblings. Until I received the information from Social Security, nobody knew his parents' names.

His original manifest lists an Arzento or Argento D'Amato arriving with him, but I can't find any more information on this person. Either he left the country before the next census or he died.

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Re: Pandolfo ancestors

Postby chrisdamato » 01 Mar 2010, 17:28

Misbris,

That may very well be his brother. I believe (I'm double checking) that Pietro worked at that address as a shoemaker. If that turns out to be true, you just found another one of Pietro's relatives for me, and in the process solved the mystery of "who is the D'Amato that accompanied Pietro" back in 1896.

All of you are wonderful sleuths. Hopefully I get that good!!!

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Postby suanj » 01 Mar 2010, 17:28

chrisdamato wrote:I'm not exactly sure of any siblings. Until I received the information from Social Security, nobody knew his parents' names.

His original manifest lists an Arzento or Argento D'Amato arriving with him, but I can't find any more information on this person. Either he left the country before the next census or he died.

Hi the first name is Arsenio D'Amato transcribed Arzento on ancestry.com
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Arzento Damato
Name: Arzento Damato
Arrival Date: 26 May 1896
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Age: 27
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: Chateau Yquem
Search Ship Database: Search the Chateau Yquem in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 21
Microfilm Serial: M237
Microfilm Roll: M237_659
Page Number: D4

I know not if this other ship's manifest is abt same Arsenio D'Amato also coming from Sant' Arsenio and joining at Pietro brother:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Arsenio Damato
Name: Arsenio Damato
Arrival Date: 6 Apr 1899
Estimated birth year: abt 1866
Age: 33
Gender: Male
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: Spartan Prince
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Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 27
Microfilm Serial: 15
Microfilm Roll: T715_54
Page Number: 176

http://img96.imageshack.us/img96/4269/1899arsenio.jpg
it are some other travel, but it is hard to say if pertaining same Arsenio:
New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Arsenio Damato
Name: Arsenio Damato
Arrival Date: 4 Jun 1894
Estimated birth year: abt 1869
Age: 25
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Naples, Italy
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: Neckar
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Port of Arrival: New York, New York
Line: 8
Microfilm Serial: M237
Microfilm Roll: M237_627
Page Number: H

in another trip Arsenio D'Amato (b. 1869) back in USA with Nicola son, lefting Anna Giallorenzo wife in Sant'Arsenio, and joining at Pietro brother 389 E. Eardham Road, New York....

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Arsenio Damato
Name: Arsenio Damato
Arrival Date: 7 Jan 1921
Estimated birth year: abt 1870
Age: 51
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Napoli

Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian (South) (Italian)
Ship Name: Regina d Italia
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Port of Arrival: New York, New York
NATIVITY: Salerno
Line: 17
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_2906
Birth Location: Salerno
Birth Location Other: s arsenio
Page Number: 267


what you think? It could be really related to your Pietro?
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Re: Pandolfo ancestors

Postby chrisdamato » 02 Mar 2010, 04:22

I have 99% confirmed that the Arsenio accompanied by his son Nicola, is in fact, a sibling of my gr grandfather Pietro. After looking for more information (census, etc...), I'm coming up blank. I have a feeling they never took up permanent residence in the U.S.

I ran a search on FamilySearch.org, but didn't come up with anything there either. At least I've added a couple more names to my tree!!!

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Re: Pandolfo ancestors

Postby misbris » 02 Mar 2010, 15:23

It sounds like Arsenio was a true "bird of passage" coming here to earn some money and then going back to his family in Italy.

In a way, this may help with your research in Italy, if you can find son Nicola and his descendents.

http://www.paginebianche.it/execute.cgi ... senio&ind=

I'd start with the Professor, who might speak English.

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Re: Pandolfo ancestors

Postby chrisdamato » 08 Mar 2010, 20:30

Need some help with a passenger manifest from May 26, 1896. My great grandfather Pietro and his brother Arsenio came over from Italy. However, I've just recently found out that their mother's maiden name was Pandolfo. Right above them on the manifest is listed "Pandolfo, Antonio/wife". It indicates that the person is female, 27 years old. I have reason to believe it's a relative of Pietro and Arsenio's mother. I just don't understand why the person's first name isn't listed. Why would it say wife if the husband was not accompanying her????

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Re: Pandolfo ancestors

Postby misbris » 09 Mar 2010, 21:05

I think her name is Antonia. Her occupation is wife, whether or not she is travelling with her husband. It is not unusual to see that on a manifest. I tried to post the manifest, but it is misfiled on Ellis Island.

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Re: Pandolfo ancestors

Postby vj » 09 Mar 2010, 22:57

misbris wrote:I think her name is Antonia. Her occupation is wife, whether or not she is travelling with her husband. It is not unusual to see that on a manifest. I tried to post the manifest, but it is misfiled on Ellis Island.


Here's the manifest from ancestry
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/7271/1896l.jpg
lines 20, 21 and 22,23
It appears that Antonia Pandolfo (maiden name) line 21 is traveling to Boston with her husband on line 20

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Re: Pandolfo ancestors

Postby chrisdamato » 10 Mar 2010, 12:54

vj wrote:
misbris wrote:I think her name is Antonia. Her occupation is wife, whether or not she is travelling with her husband. It is not unusual to see that on a manifest. I tried to post the manifest, but it is misfiled on Ellis Island.


Here's the manifest from ancestry
http://img697.imageshack.us/img697/7271/1896l.jpg
lines 20, 21 and 22,23
It appears that Antonia Pandolfo (maiden name) line 21 is traveling to Boston with her husband on line 20

Misbris,

Thanks again for the help. The husband that appears on line 20 - I'm having a bit of trouble figuring out what it says. Yet another example of poor penmanship on the part of the person recording names. Did anyone back then know how to print??? LOL


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