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Ramella & Frassati family

Postby Talamini » 10 Mar 2010, 17:46

Ciao! I am new to the site and I am trying to research my family tree as far back as possible. This is what I think I know:

Ellis Island Records - September 2, 1905, list NOVARA, Italy as the home for Giovanni, Fortunata, Clementino and Rosa Ramella

Ellis Island Records- November 1, 1909, list Borgata Leuman, Torino, for Clemante Frassait , uncle to, Gabriel Ramella, my grandfather, and his brother, Virgino Ramella .

Clemente Frassati – Borgata Leuman, Torino
children:
Fortunate Frassati Ramella (1870)
Adolfo Frassati
Clement Frassati (1886)
Giacomo Frassati
Battista Frassati
Anna Frassati Stump
Eugenio Frassati

Ramella brother and sisters:
Giovanni Ramella (1865)
Quinta Ramella
Giacomo Ramella
Antonio Ramella (1871)

Fortunata Frassati married Giovanni Ramella, in Italy
Children:
Eurosia Ramella Gruppo (1900)
Clementino Ramella (1895)
Gabriel Ramella – (1901 – 1970) my grandfather
Virgino Ramella
Libro Ramella only child born in USA
Came to the US and lived in Paterson, NJ

Your time and help is appreciated!

Regards :)

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Re: Ramella & Frassati family

Postby pink67 » 10 Mar 2010, 20:49

Ellis Island Records- November 1, 1909, list Borgata Leuman, Torino, for Clemante Frassait , uncle to, Gabriel Ramella, my grandfather, and his brother, Virgino Ramella .


Don't know if you already have this date but, on the second page of this arrival manifest you'll se that the birth town for them both was Varazze (Savona Povince - Liguria region)...

From the site:
http://records.passaiccountynj.org/pres ... x?op=basic

the Declaration of Intention for the naturalization for Clemente Frassati, stating he was born on December 10, 1886 in Varazze:

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http://records.passaiccountynj.org/pres ... ilsPB.aspx

Laura

edit to add:

from Ancestry.com:

U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
about Clement Ramella
Name: Clement Ramella
Birth Date: 20 Aug 1894
Birth Place: Biella
Residence: Paterson, New Jersey
Race: White
Roll: WWII_2274169

Biella (until 1927 Novara Province, then, from 1927 to 1992 Vercelli Province, from 1992 Biella is a Comune and also a Province)

image:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=TsG9Lqr

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Re: Ramella & Frassati family

Postby pink67 » 10 Mar 2010, 21:02

Talamini wrote:Fortunata Frassati married Giovanni Ramella, in Italy
Children:
Eurosia Ramella Gruppo (1900)
Clementino Ramella (1895)
Gabriel Ramella – (1901 – 1970) my grandfather
Virgino Ramella
Libro Ramella only child born in USA
Came to the US and lived in Paterson, NJ


From your grandfather's petition you'll se that his place of birth was Sant'Eurosia (I believe it's an hamlet of the town of Pralungo - Biella Province - Piedmont region)

http://records.passaiccountynj.org/pres ... ilsPB.aspx

Laura

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Re: Ramella & Frassati family

Postby pink67 » 10 Mar 2010, 21:15

Just for references, the 1910 census:

from Ancestry.com:

1910 United States Federal Census
about John Ramella
Name: John Ramella
[John Ramello]
Age in 1910: 46
Estimated birth year: abt 1864
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's name: Fortunato
Home in 1910: Paterson Ward 1, Passaic, New Jersey
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1900
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
John Ramella 46 head, born in IT
Fortunato Ramella 40 wife, born in IT
Clement Ramella 16 son, born in IT
Rose Ramella 12 daughter, born in IT
Virginio Ramella 11 son, born in IT
Gabriel Ramella 10 son, born in IT
Libero Ramella 3 son, born in NJ

http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=gxHiy49

Laura

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Re: Ramella & Frassati family

Postby Talamini » 10 Mar 2010, 21:51

Thank you again for your time and help pink67!

This is great information!

Regards :)

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Re: Ramella & Frassati family

Postby trevisan2 » 13 Mar 2010, 04:37

Giovanni Ramella lists his brother Antonio as his last know relative in Italy. Then looking at Antonio, he states that he was going to visit his brother Giuseppe.
Also, Antonio states he is from Cossilia. Antonio appears to go back and forth to Italy a number of times.

There are about 400 micro films for the Provence of Biela. I took a took at all of them and came up with this list for Pralungo.


Mottalciata - Pralungo 1891 FHL INTL Film
1798791

Pianceri 1905 (tutti i registri filmati di nuovo); Piedicavallo 1905 (include i due uffici: Piedicavallo e Borgata Rosazza; matrimoni, pubblicazioni, morti, indici decennali dei nati, matrimoni e morti 1896-1905); Pistolesa 1905 (indice decennale dei nati 1896-1905, matrimoni, pubblicazioni, indice decennale dei matrimoni 1896-1905, morti, indice decennale dei morti 1896-1905, allegati); Pollone, Ponderano, Portula, Pralungo 1905 (matrimoni, pubblicazioni, morti, indici decennali dei nati, matrimoni e morti 1896-1905, allegati)
Pralungo - Valdengo 1915 FHL INTL Film
1800508

NATI Pianceri 1918-1920; Rosazza, Pollone, Ponderano, Portula 1900-1920; Pralungo 1900-1913 VAULT INTL Film
1801230

NATI Pralungo 1913-1920; Pray, Quaregna, Quittengo, Ronco Biellese, Roppolo, Sagliano Micca 1900-1920; Sala Biellese 1900-1904
Miagliano pubblicazioni 1914 Pettinengo pubblicazioni 1900 Pralungo matrimoni 1904 Valle San Nicolao pubblicazioni 1900 Catelletto Cervo Morti 1919 Miagliano Morti 1902, 1914 Cerrione indici decennali nati 1896, 1905 Muzzano indici decennali nati 1896, 1905 San Giuseppe indici decennali nati 1896, 1905 Valdengo indici decennali nati 1896, 1905 Valle Mosso Sup. indici decennali nati 1896, 1905 VAULT INTL Film
1800120 Item 1

Valle Mosso Sup. indici decennali morti 1896, 1905 Sordevolo matrimoni, morti 1910 Sordevolo indici decennali morti 1906, 1915 San Giuseppe matrimoni, morti 1910 San Paolo matrimoni, morti 1910 Borriana allegati di matrimoni, morti 1912, 14 Cerrione allegati di matrimoni 1908 Pralungo allegati di matrimoni 1890 VAULT INTL Film
[b]1800120 Items 1-2

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Re: Ramella & Frassati family

Postby Talamini » 14 Mar 2010, 22:49

Dear Trevisan2,
Thank you again for your time and help!!!
I will use this information for my Ramella research.
Regards :)


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