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del Giudice, judice, alt family

Postby mjudice » 12 Mar 2010, 20:13

im looking for any help and information regarding a pietro del giudice arrived in us around 1880-1900's would have been about 17-20+ years of age he later went on to marry a woman named raffella last name unknown . he came in thru ellis island new york and lived and died here. only known children are a john s judice. name changed at the island when coming over suggested places of birth or residence are cosano and of rocco di mezzo. i have very limited info on family past this back into the roots and im trying hard to find the oldest relative in my tree to date back as far as possable. any and all help is welcomed

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Re: del Giudice, judice, alt family

Postby PeterTimber » 12 Mar 2010, 20:22

1 www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwisdom/fr ... earch.html

This will familiarize you with what to research and what questions to ask once you find the townof origin thenyour rerady to go to

2 www.angelfire.com/ok3/pearlsofwisdom/it ... tters.html

This will enable you to request,free of charge, with form letters in italian language from town of origin which usually goes back to 1809 for civil records and can also be on micorfilm at your nearest Mormon church family History library. www.familysearch.org

www.paginebianche.it is Italy telephone directory for searching out currrent relatives in the townh of origin who may be contacted with a
form letter to a potential italian relative.


The town of origin as you see is pivotal to your efforts. =Peter=
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Postby mjudice » 12 Mar 2010, 20:55

thank you for this info but i think i may need more help if possable i have the info listed above for their commune possable location only cause i cannot identify at this time exact located some del giudice thru a web site in rocca di mezzo in aquila but not shure if there is any relation to my great grandfather pietro del giudice

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Postby mjudice » 12 Mar 2010, 21:31

im waiting on my uncle to call me back to ask him more info hes supposed to talk to some other relatives and try and find out. i wish i could read the columns on that manifest perticularly 11 and 18 its nice to know some folks out there are doing something to help me its been difficult

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Postby PeterTimber » 12 Mar 2010, 22:15

The townof origin is CAIVANO and if you go to www.tuttitalia.it/campania/98-caivano and scroll down to MUNICIPIO thisis the address to mail the form letter to the UFFICIO DI STATO CIVILE for birth,marriage and death records.

There are 2 Del Giudice residing in Caivano and if you wish to send them a potential relative letter then go to the #2 websitge I furnished you for the form letter. =Peter=
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Postby misbris » 13 Mar 2010, 02:24

Definitely Caivano, father is Luigi, still there. Town in NY might be Coeymans in Albany County. Going to cousin Nicola Scotto(a)

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Postby mjudice » 13 Mar 2010, 02:30

im not shure if this is the correct manifest my uncles looking for his fathers birth certificate witch should help narrow down at least the spouse of pietro hopefully finding the correct manifest from that ill get back as soon as i get this info

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Postby pink67 » 13 Mar 2010, 08:19

Maybe for the Census manifests we can understand better....

from Ancestry.com:

1930 United States Federal Census
about Peter Judice
Name: Peter Judice
Home in 1930: Queens, Queens, New York
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Age: 44
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Raffeal
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Peter Judice 44 head, born in IT, married at the age of 28, immigr. year 1906
Raffeal Judice 35 wife, born in IT, married at the age of 20, immigr. year 1909
Mary Judice 13 daughter
Jennie Judice 12 daughter
John Judice 11 son
Joseph Judice 10 son
Rose Judice 8 daughter
Frank Judice 6 son
Florence Judice 4 8/12 daughter
Annie Judice 2 5/12 daughter

all children born in NY.

1920 United States Federal Census
about Peter Idoice
Name: Peter Idoice
Home in 1920: Brooklyn Assembly District 3, Kings, New York
Age: 34 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1886
Birthplace: Italy
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Raffale
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Sex: Male
Home owned: Rent
Year of Immigration: 1903
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 568
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Peter Idoice 34 head, born in IT
Raffale Idoice 24 wife, born in IT
Mary Idoice 3 daughter, born in NY
Jennie Idoice 2 daughter, born in NY
John Idoice 1 1/12 son, born in NY
Edward Idoice 22 brother, born in IT, immigr. year 1903

Laura

edit to add:

considering the first daughter was born on 1917 (more or less) we can presume that Pietro's marriage was around 1915...
I found this one possible:

from :

http://www.italiangen.org/vitalreclist.stm

Iodice Pietro
Nov 11 1915
Kings Certificate n. 12862
bride was:
Russo Raffaela
Nov 11 1915
Kings Certifficate n. 12862

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Re: del Giudice, judice, alt family

Postby mjudice » 13 Mar 2010, 08:53

i know the peter judice is right my uncle confirmed the children and there are 3 others for them as well but there after the 1930 census the other seems to be the same with a clerical error in the last name perhaps any luck finding out more about this person back perhaps before they reached new york ? ive been banging my head against the wall with options so far and my uncles far from me and not so good with computers (understatement) so its been rough im building my tree on ancestry.com so far they seem fine for most in us records but anything past that is poor if non exhistant as well as some holes in the us documents as well I appreiciate all the help im a little scared about the earthquake in aquila if my family records were there hope may be lost to recover anything beyond arrival at new york

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Postby pink67 » 13 Mar 2010, 09:51

This other record may be helpful:

World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Pietro Iodice
Name: Pietro Iodice
City: Brooklyn
County: Kings
State: New York
Birth Date: 10 Mar 1884
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 1754222
DraftBoard: 27

Address 83 Congress street - Brooklyn (address on 1920 census was 44 Congress street)...
nearest relative Raffaella Iodice (wife) , same address
occupation Longshoreman
unfortunately no town of birth is listed

Laura

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Re: del Giudice, judice, alt family

Postby mjudice » 13 Mar 2010, 10:12

wow i just noticed your location says your in italia were you there during that quake that hit that province?


by the way when i pulled up that record on ancestry it gives me a card that does not look right the name at top isnt even the name applied to the link

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Re: del Giudice, judice, alt family

Postby pink67 » 13 Mar 2010, 10:53

I live pretty far from L'Aquila, 350 miles, but believe me.. it was terrible to see what's happened:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_L%27Aquila_earthquake

Regarding the Draft card for the first world war, yes, image is mislinked, but you can find it ... it's the image number 73....
I wrote for you the handwritten...

I found also the military enlistment for the second Worl War:

U.S. World War II Draft Registration Cards, 1942
about Peter Antonio Judice
Name: Peter Antonio Judice
Birth Date: 11 Feb 1884
Birth Place: Naples
Residence: Queens, New York
Race: White
Roll: WWII_2371612

address:

117-32 127 street - South Ozone Park - Queens (same of the 1930 census :!: -9
neareset relative Raffaella...
As you can see he listed his place birth, Napoli - Campania region.

image, form Ancestry.com:
http://www.postimage.org/image.php?v=Pqz6suA

I believe the correct last name was Iodice, common in the Campania region

Laura

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Re: del Giudice, judice, alt family

Postby pink67 » 13 Mar 2010, 11:54

Found a January 1914 arrival manifest for a Raffaela Russo, age 19, single, from Santa Maria Capua Vetere (Caserta Province - Campania region) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Maria_Capua_Vetere , going to Brooklyn to join her uncle and aunt Cavallaro? living on 28 Congress Street -
Possible she was Pietro's wife??

note please that her name is crossed out, it means she didn't travel on that ship, there must be a subsequential arrival manifest....

page 1:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0012

page 2:
http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0012

Laura :D

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Re: del Giudice, judice, alt family

Postby pink67 » 13 Mar 2010, 13:50

Possible 1903 arrival manifest for Pietro Iodice???

October 6, 1903
Iodice Pietro, age 19 (approx. birth year 1884) single, form Portico di Caserta (Caserta Province - Campania region) going to Brooklyn to join his cousin Nicola Iodice....

http://www.ellisisland.org/EIFile/popup ... &line=0030

Naturalization marks on his line on the manifest:
2x - 62544 - 505 - 7/30/42

Laura


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