Where to Begin....Bartolomeo

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Where to Begin....Bartolomeo

Postby Nimby5956 » 14 Mar 2010, 02:55

I need a little direction, perhaps a few suggestions.

I know that my grandfather was born here in the US-Manhattan (Gerardo Bartolomeo)
I know that his parents were born in Italy.
I don't know his birth date, only that he was born 1901 (per census records).
I do know his date of death is: Jan 7, 1968
I have his death certificate number; however, since he's only been gone for 42 years, I can't order it without his parents name (which I don't know)....

Just need some ideas on how I can go about finding out his parents names...

Thanks Much

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Re: Where to Begin....Bartolomeo

Postby Michael31 » 14 Mar 2010, 03:16

www.ellisislandrecords.org
Gerardo Bartolomeo
born April 20, 1900 in New York
last residence: 2115 8th Ave. New York City

Ship: S.S. Guglielmo Peirce
manifest line number 0016.
Port of departure: Naples
Date of arrival Oct 14, 1922
Age: 22

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Re: Where to Begin....Bartolomeo

Postby Nimby5956 » 14 Mar 2010, 04:05

Thank you Michael - seems my critical thinking skills leave much to be desired. I never would have guessed that he would have traveled to Italy when he was born in NY....

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Re: Where to Begin....Bartolomeo

Postby corrado » 14 Mar 2010, 04:21

If he traveled to Italy would not his parents ( if he was a minor) needed a passport. Oh gosh, you didn't say if they were natualized or not.....

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Re: Where to Begin....Bartolomeo

Postby Nimby5956 » 14 Mar 2010, 04:45

Unfortunately - I have little to no information...I can't find any census records for 1910, 1920 (using Gerardo as the search key) and I don't know his parents names so I don't know if they were naturalized or not.

I want to order his birth certificate, but I'm not clear on the language on the NYC site regarding year searches - it seems it can be very costly...and If I don't have enough information I may be wasting my time and money.

Perhaps you have a suggestion of places I can search for his name that may yield me his parents names.

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Re: Where to Begin....Bartolomeo

Postby Tessa78 » 14 Mar 2010, 04:55

You can send away for his Social Security Application (SS- 5) which will have his parents' names. If you know his SS# the cost is $27.

http://genealogy.about.com/od/online_re ... equest.htm

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Re: Where to Begin....Bartolomeo

Postby pink67 » 14 Mar 2010, 11:39

Don't know if this date could be helpful, it's from Ancestry.com

Births Reported in 1900. Borough of Manhattan
Gelardo Bartolomeo 20 Apr 1900
Certificate number: 16933

http://www.nyc.gov/html/records/html/vi ... irth.shtml

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Re: Where to Begin....Bartolomeo

Postby pink67 » 14 Mar 2010, 13:07

Again from:

http://www.italiangen.org/vitalreclist.stm

NYC Groom Index:

Bartolomeo Giardo Oct 4 1923 Bronx Certificate Number: 4741
bride:
Losquatro Mary Oct 4 1923 Bronx Certificate Number: 4741

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Re: Where to Begin....Bartolomeo

Postby suanj » 14 Mar 2010, 15:34

Hi, this 1930 census could be right?
1930 United States Federal Census
about Jerry Bartolomeo
Name: Jerry Bartolomeo
Home in 1930: Queens, Queens, New York
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Age: 29
Estimated birth year: abt 1901
Birthplace: New York
Relation to Head of House: Head
Spouse's name: Mary
Race: White
Occupation:

Education:

Military service:

Rent/home value:

Age at first marriage:

Parents' birthplace: View image
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Jerry Bartolomeo 29
Mary Bartolomeo 29
Clara Bartolomeo 4
Lena Bartolomeo 3 1/12
Tessie Bartolomeo 1



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Re: Where to Begin....Bartolomeo

Postby Nimby5956 » 14 Mar 2010, 18:39

Thanks for all the info - I already have all of this...unfortunately, nothing is pointing me to his parents names.

I did order his SS application (without the SSN it's $29.00 - which seems reasonable). Not sure how long it will take to get it and I will place an order for his birth certificate.

If anyone has any other suggestions how I might find his parents (without waiting for the documents) - it would be greatly appreciated :)

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Re: Where to Begin....Bartolomeo

Postby PeterTimber » 14 Mar 2010, 19:08

you could have requested his information from SocialSecurity on line with a credit card. www.ssa.gov/foia/html/foia_guide.htm under MAKE YOUR REQUEST ONLINE. =Peter=
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Re: Where to Begin....Bartolomeo

Postby Nimby5956 » 14 Mar 2010, 20:00

Hi Peter - That is exactly what I did :)

If he owned a business - what kind of documents would be available?
What would they have had to file to purchase a grocery store?

Just trying to figure out other places to search.

Also, if an Italian Immigrant purchased a home - what types of applications might they have had to complete? Perhaps that's an avenue I can pursue.

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Re: Where to Begin....Bartolomeo

Postby lilbees » 15 Mar 2010, 12:44

Hi, the two marriage records I obtained from New York, one 1915 and one for 1920 also had a copy of the application on the back with the names of the parents.

You could give it a try when you request the marriage record.

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