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Franceso Manetta

Postby mechartrand » 24 Mar 2010, 00:06

Hi,

I am working on my fiance's family tree and I am looking for more information about his italian origins.

His surname his Raglione. His grand-father Nelson (Nunzio) Raglione was married to Marcelle Manetta.

They both lived and died in Québec.

I am now working on Marcelle Manetta's branch. I only have her parents' names:

- Francesco Manetta
- Yvonne Bourgault

They were both apparently famous opera singer (in Europe I think). I have some of their songs on a disc.

Also, I was told that Yvonne Bourgault was a distant cousin of Pierre Bourgault the Quebeker Separatist Politician.

I was also told that Yvonne Bourgault was published a couple times in Ladies Home Journal.

That's everything I know.

If any one has information regarding the Manetta, it would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you!

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Re: Franceso Manetta

Postby Biff83 » 24 Mar 2010, 00:36

A possibility:
1917 Canada to US border crossing record for Francesco Manetta, line 25
Occupation: Singer
Age: 38 (year of birth about 1879)
Marital status: Single
Ethnicity: Southern Italian
Nearest relative in country person came: Friend Ed Philbert, 787 St. Andre St, Montreal
Destination: New York NY
Place of birth: France, town of Conche (possibly La Conche in the Alps, just west of Northern Italy)
Page 1
http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/6753 ... ta1917.jpg

Page 2
http://img66.imageshack.us/img66/496/zzmanetta19172.jpg

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Re: Franceso Manetta

Postby mechartrand » 24 Mar 2010, 01:35

Hi Biff,

Thank you once more for your help!

It could be possible.

I also learned that Francesco got remarried at some point and got another daughter called: Mary Manetta.
Mary Manetta is still alive. I would say she is around 60 years old.

My fiance was under the impression that Yvonne Bourgault was French, but he was not certain. Our immediate family doesn't have much information on the subject.

Thanks again!!

Marie-Eve

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Re: Franceso Manetta

Postby Biff83 » 24 Mar 2010, 01:42

Hi, Marie-Eve

In doing a little searching, I found some additional information on Francesco Manetta. Basically, just some brief news snippets. From the short articles, it appears he was a tenor with the La Scala Opera Company in Milan before coming to Canada and/or the US.

If you'd like to view the articles, go the following site and do an exact phrase search for Francesco Manetta.
http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html

I'm still looking for additional information on Francesco and will see if I can locate anything on Yvonne.

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Re: Franceso Manetta

Postby mechartrand » 24 Mar 2010, 22:28

Wow!
This as awesome!
I printed the files and added them to my archives.
It would make a lot of sense if it is him.

Thank you again!!

Marie-Eve

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Re: Franceso Manetta

Postby Biff83 » 25 Mar 2010, 12:19

There are also a couple of articles and advertisements when Francesco was part of a trio called the Neapolitans on the Library of Congress Chronicling America site. Do an exact phrase search on Francesco Manetta.
http://chroniclingamerica.loc.gov/search/pages/

Unfortunately, I'm having a heck of a time finding any other information on him and have also not found anything on Yvonne.

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Re: Franceso Manetta

Postby mechartrand » 04 Apr 2010, 17:20

Hi again,

I found a bit more information regarding Franceso Manetta and his wives asking my family about it.

Yvonne Bourgault was not named Yvonne. She is actually Yvette Bourgault.

Francesco toured the United States and sang on Broadway.

Franceso was singing with his daugther (Yvette and Francesco's daughter) Marcelle Manetta. Marcelle was born on Dec 24th 1918.

Yvette Bourgault was probably born in Quebec.
Marcelle Manetta was born in Montreal, Quebec.

Francesco remarried and his new wife was named Irene. I could not get her maiden name. They got a daughter named Mary who is still alive.

I found a military record for Franceso Manetta who was a singer.
http://search.ancestry.ca/browse/view.a ... netta&st=g

On the report, it mentions a closest relative in Italy being: Angelamaria Manetta... or something similar.

That's what I have for now.

Thanks again!

Marie-Eve

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Re: Franceso Manetta

Postby suanj » 04 Apr 2010, 19:25

Hi Marie-Eve,
here:
World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918
about Francesco Manetta
Name: Francesco Manetta
City: Erie
County: Erie
State: Pennsylvania
Birth Date: 18 Jun 1879
Race: White
FHL Roll Number: 2022693
DraftBoard: 1

next of kin: Mrs Angelamaria Manetta in Belmonte Castello ( Frosinone province, Lazio region, Italy)...
Mrs Angelamaria was the sister or the mother???' hmm...
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Re: Franceso Manetta

Postby suanj » 04 Apr 2010, 19:51

Seeming that Yvonne was no the first wife, because
I found this interesting record:

1910 United States Federal Census
about Frank Manetta
Name: Frank Manetta
[Frank Inanetta]
Age in 1910: 30
Estimated birth year: abt 1880
Birthplace: Fr
Relation to Head of House: Head
Father's Birth Place: Italy
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Spouse's name: Angelina
Home in 1910: Boston Ward 2, Suffolk, Massachusetts
Marital Status: Married
Race: White
Gender: Male
Year of Immigration: 1907
Neighbors: View others on page
Household Members: Name Age
Frank Manetta 30 imm 1907, alien, SINGER
Angelina Manetta 30 ditto
Lillian Manetta 1 born in MA, USA


http://img249.imageshack.us/img249/5492 ... anetta.jpg
in 1920 the little Lillian is in a convent in Brooklyn; no doubts that is the daughter of Frank Manetta and Angelina( or Angelamaria??)

1920 United States Federal Census
about Lillian Manetta
Name: Lillian Manetta
Home in 1920: Brooklyn Assembly District 11, Kings, New York
Age: 10 years
Estimated birth year: abt 1910
Birthplace: Massachusetts
Father's Birth Place: France
Mother's Birth Place: Italy
Marital Status: Single

Race: White
Sex: Female
Able to read: Yes
Able to Write: Yes
Image: 1010

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Re: Franceso Manetta

Postby suanj » 04 Apr 2010, 20:00

here the first arrival in USA of Francesco Manetta and italian wife:

New York Passenger Lists, 1820-1957
about Francisco Manetta
Name: Francisco Manetta
Arrival Date: 18 Nov 1906
Estimated birth year: abt 1877
Age: 29
Gender: Male
Port of Departure: Cherbourg, France
Ethnicity/Race­/Nationality: Italian
Ship Name: St Louis
Search Ship Database: View the St Louis in the 'Passenger Ships and Images' database
Port of Arrival: New York, New York
NATIVITY: Spain
Line: 23
Microfilm Serial: T715
Microfilm Roll: T715_798
Birth Location: Spain ( no: France)
Birth Location Other: conetie ( Conche, France)
Page Number: 105


Artist born in Conche, FR; last residence: Cannes, joining at uncle G. Arcaris or Arcario in Chicago, IL
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Re: Franceso Manetta

Postby suanj » 04 Apr 2010, 20:15

maybe it could be interesting for you the voice of Francesco ( François) Manetta
http://www.collectionscanada.gc.ca/4/4/m2-9002m-e.html
http://www.chanson.udenap.org/paroles/v ... _jolie.htm
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Re: Franceso Manetta

Postby mechartrand » 06 Apr 2010, 03:31

Hi,

Wow! Thank you so much for all this information!
I reviewed the documents and it seems to make sense.
I will have to dig a bit more to find more information regarding the first wife ans daughter.

One person in my family was talking about a Lily, being Mary's sister.
I don't know if it would be Lilian or if it is a girl born later.
I will look into that.

My husband's father gave me a CD with a couple songs from Francesco Manetta, but it did not include the songs you sent me. So, thank you so much for this precious Ad-on to my collection.

Thanks again!

Marie-Eve

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Re: Franceso Manetta

Postby suanj » 06 Apr 2010, 05:06

Hi Marie-Eve,
MAYBE I found some info abt the uncle of Francesco Manetta ( or uncle of Angelina); the uncle G. Arcaris in Chicago, maybe it was:

Gaetano Arcaris born in Picinisco ( Frosinone province; that matching with the birthplace of Angelina born in Belmonte Castello, no far from Picinisco http://maps.google.it/maps?hl=it&ie=UTF ... loc=A&sa=X

so it is possible that the Francesco's parents coming from Picinisco also)

ACTOR profession;
here the naturalization:

FIRST NAME LAST NAME OCCUPATION
GAETANO ARCARIS ACTOR

BIRTH CITY BIRTH COUNTRY BIRTH DATE
PICINISCO ITALY 9/26/1854

CURRENT ADDRESS CURRENT CITY
226 GRAND BLVD. BROOKFIELD

DEPARTURE LOCATION ARRIVAL DATE DECLARATION DATE
LIVERPOOL, ENGLAND 10/14/1889 4/10/1918
abt Lillian, it is possible that Lillian was Lily...
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Re: Franceso Manetta

Postby Jacquie » 11 Mar 2014, 15:34

hello,

I found this old thread and it is my grandfather that you are looking for information on. My mother is Lilly Manetta, I would love to get in touch with you. Is it possible to email this person who had the inquiry?


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